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(Tom's Hardware)   About four years to go until the floppy disk biz goes stiff   (tomshardware.com) divider line
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2022-09-20 7:49:52 PM  
Ohhh FFS, what am I supposed to do now? Use those crummy new fangled CDs?
I'm sorry, but the 0s aren't as round and the 1s aren't as sharp as they are on floppies
Even WordStar docs don't look nearly as sharp and crisp when viewed off of CD
 
2022-09-20 8:33:40 PM  
I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.
 
2022-09-20 8:36:17 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.


You mean 5.25?
 
2022-09-20 8:44:17 PM  
Dealt with this when I worked in avionics and healthcare electrical repair. There would be floppies and VHS for legacy parts. It's not like there wasn't writing on the wall and various things should have been on an upgrade path if it becomes an issue.
 
2022-09-20 8:45:37 PM  
I honestly feel kind of sad they're almost gone. All those years installing/running games from floppy disks. I know a lot of people don't like em with today's tech but still it feels like watching the last of part of my past slowly die away.
 
2022-09-20 8:46:15 PM  
I have tie fighter on floppy
 
2022-09-20 8:46:28 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.


You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.
 
2022-09-20 8:56:47 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You mean 5.25?


Yeah, 120 240. Whatever works.

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And of course it's sideways because fark me.
 
2022-09-20 9:00:42 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.


I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.
 
2022-09-20 9:14:19 PM  
When I croak, computer archeologists are going to have a field day. I've made a point of keeping at least one controller / drives / cables from the Winchester / MFM / ATA / ESDI / IDE ages, and I had a pretty big Pascal and Assembly code-base I had to extract from Hewlett Packard's proprietary DOS 3.1 720k floppies.

And yes, I still have some 5'1/4" and 8" floppies with Apple assembly on them.

Gregory Benford had a few thoughts about communicating over long periods of time.
 
2022-09-20 9:15:32 PM  

clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.


Do you have an internal CD / DVD drive with a wide, flat cable?
 
2022-09-20 9:19:53 PM  

maxheck: clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.

Do you have an internal CD / DVD drive with a wide, flat cable?


There is always a way, it's just how much you want to put into it.
 
2022-09-20 9:20:46 PM  
One of my local computer shops still sells real floppies not those new fangled 3.5" ones.  Their thing is supporting computers that were discontinued 30 years ago like the microbee.
 
2022-09-20 9:25:02 PM  
 
2022-09-20 9:34:12 PM  
It's a shame, the music in games installed from floppies sound a lot better than if the game was downloaded. The bits in the midi files really deteriorate when passing near all the power transformers between you and your isp.
 
2022-09-20 9:41:50 PM  
They don't have any 3" disks.  I wonder if there's anyone left at all selling those.
 
2022-09-20 9:53:40 PM  

maxheck: clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.

Do you have an internal CD / DVD drive with a wide, flat cable?


Those are IDE, the floppy drives use a different controller & cable.
 
2022-09-20 10:22:42 PM  
When Kodak came out with their digital camera in the mid 1990s, it used a proprietary floppy disk.

Those little bastards were expensive.
 
2022-09-20 10:33:43 PM  
I just found a box of blank floppies in the bottom of a box of old cables. There was also a case of mini CD-RWs. I'm pretty sure I have some new old stock cassettes around here too...

I'm good for a while on obsolete media.
 
2022-09-20 10:45:30 PM  
That reminds me, I have a couple of floppy drives and about 200 floppies. I wonder if I can find an external case with a USB converter. Just for nostalgia.
 
2022-09-20 11:01:22 PM  
"Recycled so they don't end up in landfills"? They will when the end user is done with them. Way to clear your conscience.
 
2022-09-20 11:06:37 PM  
All my old stuff I moved from floppies to a zip drive.

/that was a mistake
 
2022-09-20 11:26:14 PM  
I remember buying Doom 2 on 3.5"s at Circuit City.
 
2022-09-20 11:39:01 PM  

Excelsior: maxheck: clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.

Do you have an internal CD / DVD drive with a wide, flat cable?

Those are IDE, the floppy drives use a different controller & cable.


Trust me, I had many experiences with that little twist in the cable for master and slave, and have put up with the jumpers involved.

There is a reason we don't do that anymore. :|
 
2022-09-21 12:15:31 AM  
ZIP drives, anyone?

I still own one that I haven't used in around 20 years. I should see if it still works.
 
2022-09-21 12:54:12 AM  

clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.


https://mattfife.com/?p=3793 mentions a few options.
 
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2022-09-21 1:00:49 AM  

cyberspacedout: ZIP drives, anyone?

I still own one that I haven't used in around 20 years. I should see if it still works.


Those were a dream at the time due to their storage.  They could be used to record music live, even, and some of the engineering classes at my college required them.  The library nestled a little wing of computers with Zip drives.  The future seemed bright for mass storage, but then -

click   click   click   click   click  click...
 
2022-09-21 1:04:24 AM  

clkeagle: ImpendingCynic: Mr. Fuzzypaws: I have Windows on 5.5s. Probably toast, but I have them.

You might be surprised. I was cleaning a relative's office and needed to try read many dozens of floppies up to 20 years old. I think I recovered about 99.5% of the data.

The trick is to try multiple drives if you have them. One drive might be able to perfectly read a diskette that another drive won't even recognize.

I probably still have a USB 3.5" drive somewhere. But how does one read a 5.25" on a modern computer? My understanding is that there really isn't any way to adapt it to a modern protocol.


Here ya go
 
2022-09-21 1:06:17 AM  

433: cyberspacedout: ZIP drives, anyone?

I still own one that I haven't used in around 20 years. I should see if it still works.

Those were a dream at the time due to their storage.  They could be used to record music live, even, and some of the engineering classes at my college required them.  The library nestled a little wing of computers with Zip drives.  The future seemed bright for mass storage, but then -

click   click   click   click   click  click...


Fortunately, I never used mine long enough to experience that. I did also use it to carry files to and from the college computer lab, during a year that I lived off campus.
 
2022-09-21 2:03:23 AM  
We have a 486 used as a machine controller that we have to regularly get data to and from... I got really tired of having to use 3.5s a few years back, so got them to get a USB floppy... It will happily run, format 8g thumb drives down to 1.44 meg. I should have specified one of the ones that simulate up to 100 of them, but this does the job, and I don't have to worry about disk rot. I also got them to get a CF-IDE adapter, so it's managing to stay alive. The cmos battery is dead, and I'm not willing to try to put a new one in... Important interface cards require a precise 8MHz bus (iirc, EISA), and we're in the process of upgrading the whole system, but will have to keep this alive for several months at least.
 
2022-09-21 3:24:23 AM  
Dude. At this point, even the 486SX (I'll upgrade to a DX some other decade) machine in my life has a floppy drive emulator. It's hard that for nearly a decade. Floppy drives are MIDI playback devices and little more nowadays.
 
2022-09-21 3:24:49 AM  
Don't Copy That Floppy (Official Video - Digitally Remastered)
Youtube up863eQKGUI
 
2022-09-21 8:06:22 AM  
Still have one of these in a box somewhere:

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2022-09-21 8:39:12 AM  
I remember getting this game "Under a Killing moon" in the 90s and it was on I want to say 3 CDs and was all like WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
 
2022-09-21 10:32:10 AM  
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2022-09-21 12:43:01 PM  

calufrax: We have a 486 used as a machine controller that we have to regularly get data to and from... I got really tired of having to use 3.5s a few years back, so got them to get a USB floppy... It will happily run, format 8g thumb drives down to 1.44 meg. I should have specified one of the ones that simulate up to 100 of them, but this does the job, and I don't have to worry about disk rot. I also got them to get a CF-IDE adapter, so it's managing to stay alive. The cmos battery is dead, and I'm not willing to try to put a new one in... Important interface cards require a precise 8MHz bus (iirc, EISA), and we're in the process of upgrading the whole system, but will have to keep this alive for several months at least.


You've removed the old battery though, right? Unless it is a button battery, it can be really susceptible to leaking and corroding your boards.
 
2022-09-21 12:47:40 PM  

TTFK: Still have one of these in a box somewhere:

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I have several.
 
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