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    More: Spiffy, Cy Young Award, New York Mets, National League, Max Scherzer, Major League Baseball, Arizona Diamondbacks, perfect game, Florida Marlins  
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1041 clicks; posted to Sports » on 20 Sep 2022 at 6:05 AM (18 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-20 6:25:26 AM  
2 votes:

kdawg7736: ...and Max was on pace for a perfect game? Imagine if he did get that.


Same deal as Kershaw (?) being clean through 7 at the start of the season. But three weeks left is the point where you protect pitchers regardless, not six months.
 
2022-09-20 9:07:33 AM  
1 vote:

sephjnr: kdawg7736: ...and Max was on pace for a perfect game? Imagine if he did get that.

Same deal as Kershaw (?) being clean through 7 at the start of the season. But three weeks left is the point where you protect pitchers regardless, not six months.


he also was just coming off the IL.  if it was a 2 run lead instead of 5 he probably would've gone out for another inning, but that would've been all

i'm amazed that he was laughing and smiling so much and accepted it rather than his usual 'don't you even think about pulling me yet' death stare
 
2022-09-20 10:25:19 AM  
1 vote:
I think the important thing is the Mets need to celebrate this achievement to the fullest and, hopefully, over-indulge to the point of not playing well for the next, oh, 1-2 games or so....


/Brewers fan hoping to get a WC spot
 
2022-09-20 10:28:28 AM  
1 vote:

TheTossedCoin: I think the important thing is the Mets need to celebrate this achievement to the fullest and, hopefully, over-indulge to the point of not playing well for the next, oh, 1-2 games or so....


/Brewers fan hoping to get a WC spot


would much rather the brewers than phils
 
2022-09-20 11:08:37 AM  
1 vote:

Dafatone: sephjnr: Dead for Tax Reasons: he knows winning it all is way more important than adding on to his already numerous individual achievement, including 2 no hitters.  he wants to go out there and do what he does and stay in games not because of some selfish reason but because him out there is what is best for the team most of the time.  what's best for the team here though is him being there in october, not chasing a chance at personal glory.  he only had like 68 pitches through 6 so could've comfortably got through nine innings under 110 if he got the perfecto which he can do in his sleep if he was 100% and needed to

of course he'd have wanted to do it and thought he could, but there are more important things especially at this stage in his career

The team's already won it all, that's my point. Something that just over 20 guys have done in the game's entire history shouldn't be relegated to a 'selfish reason'. especially a defensive crown in the game where defense is being marginalised further and further year after year. Dingers and wins are the selling point of the game but will be put to the side, then forgotten days to month later in search of the next. But Perfects? Sixteen teams don't have one and only five have more than one. Let's call that grail a grail for just once.

There's all sorts of emphasis on defense these days.


Indeed. From next year they can't shift, have to spend less time in between pitching and can only pick off a couple of times before forfeiting movement.

One of these is good, one is horseshiat and the other's a maybe. But it's still marginalisation.
 
2022-09-20 12:06:15 PM  
1 vote:

phimuskapsi: The Bestest: sephjnr: The team's already won it all

The Mets are still fighting tooth and nail with the Braves for the division, something that means the difference between the 2nd seed and a bye or 4th seed and facing a best of 3 series where anything can happen and your only reward is being fed to the Dodgers.

True, and the Braves have the easier schedule, but just barely - playing the horrid Nationals 6 times and Miami 3 times, vs. the Mets playing the Nats 3 times, Oakland 3 times and Miami twice.

The real important series is Mets v. Braves at the end of September and first week of October. Whichever comes out ahead after that is gonna be your 2nd seed.


On paper the Cards are only 6.5 games back on the Mets, but I've been too ridiculous in this thread already to contemplate it.
 
2022-09-20 12:14:18 PM  
1 vote:

phimuskapsi: The Bestest: sephjnr: The team's already won it all

The Mets are still fighting tooth and nail with the Braves for the division, something that means the difference between the 2nd seed and a bye or 4th seed and facing a best of 3 series where anything can happen and your only reward is being fed to the Dodgers.

True, and the Braves have the easier schedule, but just barely - playing the horrid Nationals 6 times and Miami 3 times, vs. the Mets playing the Nats 3 times, Oakland 3 times and Miami twice.

The real important series is Mets v. Braves at the end of September and first week of October. Whichever comes out ahead after that is gonna be your 2nd seed.


The Braves were projected to have a slightly harder final month, but that's mostly because they had to play the Giants the other week.  Now they're past that, unless one team completely craps the bed in the next week, it's coming down to a face-off between the teams directly.  Personally, that's how I like to see it:  The season should matter down to the wire, with the outcome determined by a direct matchup.  Whichever team comes out ahead, we're going to get a hell of a show.
 
2022-09-20 1:04:41 PM  
1 vote:
*Dodgers and Yankees nod sagely* Playoffs are easy to achieve once your payroll gets over a quarter billion  dollars
 
2022-09-20 2:01:52 PM  
1 vote:

Dafatone: [...]

I don't particularly like the no shifting rule, but it's going to make defense MORE important because teams won't be able to cover up poor defenders with positioning.


For me good positioning is a key asset of good defense and defenders should be able to adjust based on who's batting, and restricting adjustments sounds artificial. That's why I don't agree with the extent (if not the premise) of banning shifting.
 
2022-09-20 4:13:17 PM  
1 vote:

rickythepenguin: The Bestest: They announced exactly what the rule would be last week.

whoa, I did not know that.  Thanks, truly.  I just saw, "MLB bans the shift in 2023"

still, without quoting the entire post, there's a lot of wiggle room.  "4 players with cleats in the dirt, two on either side of 2B, they can still bring and OF in, but no 4 OF....."  and "in certain situations"?  what does that mean?  Game 3 of the season, the hapless Snakes vs the Nationals, it's ok, vs a World Series game 3?

Snakes v Dodgers last week.  one batter, Dodgers shifted SS to shallow center, 3B to right of second, 2B in shallow right center, 1B on the grass.  Snake fouled off 1-2 pitches.  Dodgers moved all 4 infielders to "traditional" spots, and we struck out anyways. I guess our kid, on a certain pitch count, goes right, but if the count is against him, it's game on.  weird.

/fabric of baseball
///warrior code, you'll never understand
///get better or get going, etc.


I'm not sure why they threw "certain situations" in there. But you can go 5 infielders, or make an outfielder into almost-an-infielder. But you can't go 4 outfielders.
 
2022-09-20 4:26:24 PM  
1 vote:
I think the simplest explanation is that the 3B and SS are confined to the left side of the infield and likewise the 2B and 1B to the right side until the pitch is made, everything else is pretty much fair game
 
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