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2022-09-19 8:23:17 AM  
"For several months after the article was published in November, the librarian and the school's principal had demanded that the name be removed."

No mention of either, yikes.
 
2022-09-19 8:27:11 AM  
We now go to our reporter on-scene

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2022-09-19 8:28:22 AM  
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So antivaxxers get the day off too?

fark these farking farks in their farking farkfaces.
 
2022-09-19 8:30:45 AM  
No shiat?
 
2022-09-19 8:31:27 AM  
Actually surprised the teacher won out for journalism.
 
2022-09-19 8:35:50 AM  
You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.
 
2022-09-19 8:55:30 AM  

WilderKWight: You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.


But profanity has fark-all to do with this particular story.
 
2022-09-19 9:01:41 AM  
Chavira and her students received support from
the Student Press Law Center,
the National Association of Hispanic Journalists and
the Society of Professional Journalists.


Ah ha ha! Stupid school board thought they could just intimidate the students with their power trip. They're just a bunch of kids, right? And we're big, important adults.

They were also supported by Judea Pearl, whose journalist son - the school's namesake - was kidnapped and killed by al-Qaeda extremists while reporting for the Wall Street Journal in Pakistan in 2002.

Jesus Farkin' Christmas! That magnet school should know better.
 
2022-09-19 9:09:38 AM  
It seems to me it's public health concern to name anti-vaxxers.  Students should be aware of which teachers are likely to infect the most vulnerable of them and their families with a disease that can lead to death, hospitalization, and/or financial ruin.

The administration and school board and citizens of the city should know why the heating/air conditioning expenses in the library are higher due to the increased ventilation of outside air necessary to keep everyone safe.

The librarian should have to deal with the scorn they receive for being a stubborn clown who puts politics first, or maybe lies that they're "doing their own research."  They should be outed as a imbecile of a librarian who should know better about information gathering, and apparently doesn't.

All in all it's a tiny victory for America and for anti-authoritarianism, and for a free press, that isn't controlled by the state.
 
2022-09-19 9:30:33 AM  
A pharmacist can refuse to dispense the morning after pill because of their beliefs. A cake baker can choose not to provide a cake for same sex marriage because of Republican Jesus. But if a teacher has principles well that's a suspending
 
2022-09-19 9:53:19 AM  

WilderKWight: You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.


In 1990, the student newspaper I worked on published a column called the "phuque" corner.  There was kind of a lot of other stuff in that initial printing that was risque.  The faculty member who ran the paper thought it was great and ran with it.  He was removed from that duty shortly after and then the next year, forced to resign for reasons not quite fully disclosed.

The first paper was so widely spoken about an actual newspaper wrote an article about it and how the faculty member was removed from newspaper duties.
 
2022-09-19 10:01:01 AM  

Cheron: A pharmacist can refuse to dispense the morning after pill because of their beliefs. A cake baker can choose not to provide a cake for same sex marriage because of Republican Jesus. But if a teacher has principles well that's a suspending


We are held to a higher standard and that's entirely appropriate.
 
2022-09-19 10:11:40 AM  
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2022-09-19 10:11:42 AM  
I feel like the least we could do is link to the actual student website. Here's their updated story on it:

https://www.thepearlpost.com/28535/showcase/journalism-teacher-chavira-suspended-after-refusal-to-remove-article/

Spread the word far and wide that Greta Enzser loves spreading disease and hates freedom of speech.
 
2022-09-19 10:28:37 AM  
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Malcolm knew what to do
 
2022-09-19 10:44:36 AM  
The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"
 
2022-09-19 10:46:39 AM  
You don't want to get vaxxed, MAYBE it's your business to keep privately and not share with your co-workers, though I would argue you have no right to keep such information private. But certainly if I am compelled to be indoors with you (like a secondary school student, for example) I have a right to know your vaccination status. You don't like that, go find another job.
 
2022-09-19 10:48:55 AM  

Ker_Thwap: It seems to me it's public health concern to name anti-vaxxers.  Students should be aware of which teachers are likely to infect the most vulnerable of them and their families with a disease that can lead to death, hospitalization, and/or financial ruin.


As with all "free speech" issues, it comes down to time+place+manner.

Listing the teachers at the school who don't have the vaccine so that you can know around whom you should exercise caution seems perfectly acceptable.

Listing the teachers at the school who don't have the vaccine because you want to make them targets of violence is not.

(Searches for the original article)

https://www.thepearlpost.com/27098/showcase/school-staff-vaccine-mandate-sparks-protests-causes-librarian-to-leave/

Here is what it says:

In LAUSD, about 240 teachers opted out of getting the vaccine, which led to them not showing up to school on Oct. 18. Among them was teacher-librarian Greta Enszer from Daniel Pearl Magnet High School. Both Enszer and Principal Armen Petrossian turned down requests for interviews to discuss her not returning to campus due to personnel confidentiality.

Without a teacher-librarian, the school's library remains closed. It's not clear when the position will be filled but Petrossian shared that he hopes it gets filled soon.


That seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to report - it answers the question that readers might have, "why is the library closed"?  I don't see a problem with this at all.
 
2022-09-19 10:50:35 AM  
But Chavira, a former journalist who has taught at Pearl Magnet High for 14 years, stood behind her students' reporting and refused to change the story,

A teacher AND a journalist. That's just an enemy of the state right there.
 
2022-09-19 10:56:16 AM  

Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"


Perhaps you should read that article?

It's not relevant here.

HIPAA only covers certain people - it's not an absolute shroud of privacy for all things medical.  HIPAA covers health care providers, insurance companies, IT companies that provide services to health care providers, etc.

If an uncovered person becomes aware of your medical information, say, because you didn't show up for work on the day that the vaccine mandate went into effect and they put two and two together, then there is nothing stopping that uncovered person from disclosing what they learned.
 
2022-09-19 11:08:10 AM  

IDisposable: Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"

Perhaps you should read that article?

It's not relevant here.

HIPAA only covers certain people - it's not an absolute shroud of privacy for all things medical.  HIPAA covers health care providers, insurance companies, IT companies that provide services to health care providers, etc.

If an uncovered person becomes aware of your medical information, say, because you didn't show up for work on the day that the vaccine mandate went into effect and they put two and two together, then there is nothing stopping that uncovered person from disclosing what they learned.


The dumb Librarian attempted the HIPAA defense, because her name was published, and that made her sad.  It  was referenced in gonegirl's link.  So, it's relevant to the discussion.  So, the students could indeed publish that sort of article and mention the same sorts of things that you just mentioned.  Librarian Greta could then read the article.
 
2022-09-19 12:03:34 PM  

Petite Mel: Chavira and her students received support from
the Student Press Law Center,
the National Association of Hispanic Journalists and
the Society of Professional Journalists.

Ah ha ha! Stupid school board thought they could just intimidate the students with their power trip. They're just a bunch of kids, right? And we're big, important adults.

They were also supported by Judea Pearl, whose journalist son - the school's namesake - was kidnapped and killed by al-Qaeda extremists while reporting for the Wall Street Journal in Pakistan in 2002.

Jesus Farkin' Christmas! That magnet school should know better.


It's a magnet school. Of course it attracted lots of things.
 
2022-09-19 12:18:30 PM  

Bandito King: Cheron: A pharmacist can refuse to dispense the morning after pill because of their beliefs. A cake baker can choose not to provide a cake for same sex marriage because of Republican Jesus. But if a teacher has principles well that's a suspending

We are held to a higher standard and that's entirely appropriate.


Agreed. Which is why what the principal attempted is so egregious. To attempt censorship against a student newspaper - in violation of state law - and then retaliate against a teacher is pathetic. The principal should have known better and should be disciplined.
 
2022-09-19 12:49:56 PM  

IDisposable: Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"

Perhaps you should read that article?

It's not relevant here.

HIPAA only covers certain people - it's not an absolute shroud of privacy for all things medical.  HIPAA covers health care providers, insurance companies, IT companies that provide services to health care providers, etc.

If an uncovered person becomes aware of your medical information, say, because you didn't show up for work on the day that the vaccine mandate went into effect and they put two and two together, then there is nothing stopping that uncovered person from disclosing what they learned.


You should read the article.

Pot, meet kettle.
 
2022-09-19 1:00:15 PM  

WilderKWight: You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.


At least we still have coont.
 
2022-09-19 1:17:41 PM  

strathmeyer: "For several months after the article was published in November, the librarian and the school's principal had demanded that the name be removed."

No mention of either, yikes.


Ya, apparently the students have more balls than the Midlands Daily News.
 
2022-09-19 1:20:52 PM  

Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"


They're welcome to call me for help on it! HIPAA was a big part of my last job. And I love to see teenagers stigginit to asshat admins.
 
2022-09-19 1:43:57 PM  
Kids, teachers, admin and janitors spread gossip. Some true, some not.

Student newspaper can filter and clear out some of the BS.

If the cafeteria is closed because of spoiled food from a broken freezer that hasn't been replaced since first issues were reported by cafeteria staff to admins in 2010 who DGAF, or the library is closed for a week because Mrs. X is a known anti-vax POS who got the COVID and kids are talking about it in hallways and grumbling about it, worth putting out they farked around, found out and won dumb prizes.
 
2022-09-19 1:46:09 PM  

strathmeyer: "For several months after the article was published in November, the librarian and the school's principal had demanded that the name be removed."

No mention of either, yikes.


From the school newspaper article on September 9, 2022: The Pearl Post. They reported the teacher suspension, and mentioned the Librarian's name again in that article. Daniel Pearl Magnet High School (DPMHS) librarian, Greta Enzser, left after the mandate was established. The name of the principal is also in the article: Armen Petrossian.
 
2022-09-19 1:56:43 PM  

GloomCookie613: Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"

They're welcome to call me for help on it! HIPAA was a big part of my last job. And I love to see teenagers stigginit to asshat admins.


Can something that has NOT happened (or at least not shown to have happened) (i.e. the vaccination) be considered a HIPAA matter?  I wouldn't think so.
 
2022-09-19 2:08:44 PM  
Looks like someone knows how to make right call before the courts have to tell them they are idiots.
 
2022-09-19 2:51:43 PM  

Petite Mel: WilderKWight: You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.

But profanity has fark-all to do with this particular story.


What WilderKWight is saying here is that he is like a bull at a gate when wanting to use the word "F#ck" freely when posting here on Fark.

If Drew ever decides to remove the filter on this, I bet this particular poster will have a megafeckton of fecks to give out here. As will many of us.

///Because the world has gone crazy and there are a hell of a lot of things to say "Fark" about.
 
2022-09-19 3:39:21 PM  
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2022-09-19 4:42:32 PM  
If a commercial news organization would print the name, then censoring the article is most definitely wrong.  If a commercial news organization would have retracted the name, then the student news should be expected to do the same.

Personally, I believe the names of all 240 antivax teachers should have been revealed.  It's news and it's critical health information. And students should have the right to refuse to enter the classroom of an unvaxxed teacher.
 
2022-09-19 6:22:05 PM  

WilderKWight: You know what? The gate is pretty much mowed down when it comes to the word f#ck. I think it was over for keeping f#ck taboo and unspoken when Trump's "grab her by the pussy" video/audio hit the public discourse. That was the point where I recall news outlets and people in general just tossing out their filters, throwing caution to the wind, and saying or printing the word without censorship all over the place; not just in Trump's quote, but in other places, too.

And once the floodgates were open, the word was everywhere and being used by everyone. It's in every hardcore right-winger's yard and on their truck, with their "F#CK BIDEN" stuff (when they're not trying to be clever and use "LET'S GO BRANDON" which we all know is "F#CK YOU BIDEN" and really no secret.)

The word is all over Twitter. Prominent figures use it all the time now. COVID-19 came along and everyone else, not in the political spectrum, also decided they no longer have any f#cks to give about saying f#ck.

The word is passing into mainstream usage. Just as damn, hell, biatch, crap,and shiat did before it (everywhere but FARK, anyway, where we're still censored on biatch and shiat like this is still the mid-1990s, unless you want to pay the FARK gods for the right to say it.)

The word doesn't have the same impact anymore. School kids all know it before they're 5 years old. The only places you won't hear it spoken are in some churches, synagogues, and mosques. It's over for f#ck as a taboo, verboten, worst-grandaddy swear of them all. It's now just damn 2.0 as far as most people are concerned.


If that's true then we just have to get a bit more creative. So instead of saying 'fark Ted Cruz' I'll say 'Ted Cruz feltches dogs. 100% true' instead.
 
2022-09-19 8:03:15 PM  

gonegirl: I feel like the least we could do is link to the actual student website. Here's their updated story on it:

https://www.thepearlpost.com/28535/showcase/journalism-teacher-chavira-suspended-after-refusal-to-remove-article/

Spread the word far and wide that Greta Enzser loves spreading disease and hates freedom of speech.


Maybe she has health reasons for not getting the vaccine?  Nice of you to just assume the worst of someone.  I hope you never find yourself on the end of some lame ass attempt at internet harassment.
 
2022-09-19 8:36:17 PM  

daveb0rg: gonegirl: I feel like the least we could do is link to the actual student website. Here's their updated story on it:

https://www.thepearlpost.com/28535/showcase/journalism-teacher-chavira-suspended-after-refusal-to-remove-article/

Spread the word far and wide that Greta Enzser loves spreading disease and hates freedom of speech.

Maybe she has health reasons for not getting the vaccine?  Nice of you to just assume the worst of someone.  I hope you never find yourself on the end of some lame ass attempt at internet harassment.


Lol, too late. My harassment experience was old school; hate mail from across the country when my father dared to insult Franklin Graham.

The requirement had a medical exemption which she could have applied for if it were relevant. I'm assuming the worst of her because she shiat on freedom of speech. She falsely claimed that HIPAA was relevant, and demanded that the school break the law to protect her fee-fees. That makes her a shiatty person; it seems reasonable to assume that she's also unvaccinated because she is a shiatty person.
 
2022-09-19 9:46:17 PM  

Kraig57: The name of the principal is also in the article: Armen Petrossian.


Recognized that name instantly, had to look up why: http://www.armeniapedia.org/wiki/Armen_Petrossian I'd read an article on them after they were name dropped in some movie.

/Unrelated to the subject
//irrelevant detour!
 
2022-09-20 2:03:15 PM  
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2022-09-20 3:48:43 PM  

Billy Liar: GloomCookie613: Sir Paul: The students should write an article called "HIPAA: How does it work?"

They're welcome to call me for help on it! HIPAA was a big part of my last job. And I love to see teenagers stigginit to asshat admins.

Can something that has NOT happened (or at least not shown to have happened) (i.e. the vaccination) be considered a HIPAA matter?  I wouldn't think so.


Nope.

If a doctor, nurse, etc have access to that info THEY may not disclose that. It's considered PHI or Private Health Information. Violating a patient's PHI is a fine/firing offense.

Now if Lil Miss No Vax told the school secretary or another teacher or Bob at the grocery store and THAT person tells everybody? Sucks to be Lil Miss No Vax. HIPAA only applies to healthcare providers.

Also if Lil Miss No Vax didn't show up the day the mandate was effective and is a loud anti-vax mouthpiece and you put two and two together that's also not a HIPAA violation.

HIPAA only applies to doctors, nurses, pharma staff, or others that are privy to the PHI in your file. That's why all the anti-maskers screaming HIPAA for being asked about their 'medical condition' had zero legs to stand on.
 
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