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(Cap Times)   Office culture was the watermelon, the pandemic was the hammer. AmFam tries to ungallagherize the watermelon   (captimes.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Madison, Wisconsin, Employment, work time, quarter of American Family Insurance employees, rumors of the planned policy change, American Family Insurance group, employees, new rules  
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621 clicks; posted to Business » on 12 Sep 2022 at 5:05 PM (20 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-12 5:11:30 PM  
Because office life was feudalistic, and management can't subjugate the serfs if they can't use eye contact and body language.
 
2022-09-12 5:23:40 PM  
Don't come in, find other work. Plenty of other remote work jobs out there.
 
2022-09-12 5:38:49 PM  
My wife just started working for AF at the beginning of this year. She's a claims manager, and said that the announcement for coming back to the office doesn't affect her level, but her boss was affected. He had moved further away from the office when everything went remote. He's now like 48 miles away and the cut off for not having to come into the office is 50, when he used to live something like 10 miles away. So he's not happy about that.

The nearest office to us is Seattle, so we're well outside the area that my wife would be required to come in, even if they do change the level at which they are requiring people to be back in the office.

Meanwhile, I've been bringing stuff from my cube at work home because they're transistioning to all "hotel" cubes, since they're realistic and have realized that not everyone needs to be in the office, and aren't going back on that promise.
 
2022-09-12 6:16:43 PM  
The only people who want to go back to the office are extroverts who need to unload all their shiat onto other people. And those who are too lazy to create an identity or community other than work.
 
2022-09-12 8:02:05 PM  
"We've altered the deal - pray we don't alter it further" gets an immediate "buh-bye" from me.

Did so before the pandemic, continues to do so now. Employers are gambling on the "news" that the Great Resignation has petered out, and that they can start this shiat up again. The easiest way to deal with it is to simply quit. Get another job.

There's loads of them right now. Employers are begging for competent workers.
 
2022-09-12 8:03:42 PM  
According to an internal FAQ document, the policy applies even to those employees who have no teammates at the local office and thus would generally be driving to the office to attend Zoom meetings or work alone. The document says that, for those employees, the policy will promote "networking ... innovation and cross-team collaboration ... improve well-being and mental health and alleviate feelings of burnout and isolation."

And that's when you know they're doing it because they can, not because there's a business need to do so.
 
2022-09-12 8:31:18 PM  

FormlessOne: According to an internal FAQ document, the policy applies even to those employees who have no teammates at the local office and thus would generally be driving to the office to attend Zoom meetings or work alone. The document says that, for those employees, the policy will promote "networking ... innovation and cross-team collaboration ... improve well-being and mental health and alleviate feelings of burnout and isolation."

And that's when you know they're doing it because they can, not because there's a business need to do so.


I have at least a flexible policy. If I have work to do with other people, make every effort to do so in person and try to be in the office 1-2 days a week minimum. My boss is a VP and I have my 1:1 scheduled with him tomorrow and back to back phone calls with other people around the country and world, he does too, so we just agreed it's not worth coming into the office just to be on the phone for 8 hours.

It's just common sense.

Of course, there are plenty of people who go in everyday because they hate their kids/spouse or like the office.
 
2022-09-12 8:51:39 PM  

togaman2k: It's just common sense.


Remarkable how rare that particular trait seems to be, isn't it?
 
2022-09-12 10:36:01 PM  
You're all going back to the office.
Get over it.
 
2022-09-12 11:07:45 PM  
Our parent company just made the announcement today as well. Won't really affect our company (we have always ignored them), but the circus is going to be fun to watch.

The head of HR was obviously reading rapidly from a script, and he couldn't get back to his seat fast enough - so fast, he 'forgot' to answer questions. This is going to be hilarious.

Meanwhile, they can't say shiat to us, because we're the only profitable business unit, and we're really lean already, with people we can't replace. I actually like being in the office, but have medical reasons why I can't do it more than a couple days per week. Good thing I've got a big popcorn machine.
 
2022-09-13 1:09:26 AM  

FormlessOne: According to an internal FAQ document, the policy applies even to those employees who have no teammates at the local office and thus would generally be driving to the office to attend Zoom meetings or work alone. The document says that, for those employees, the policy will promote "networking ... innovation and cross-team collaboration ... improve well-being and mental health and alleviate feelings of burnout and isolation."

And that's when you know they're doing it because they can, not because there's a business need to do so.


They can't fathom that some people don't need to face to face to get work done.
 
2022-09-13 1:22:27 AM  

logieal: My wife just started working for AF at the beginning of this year. She's a claims manager, and said that the announcement for coming back to the office doesn't affect her level, but her boss was affected. He had moved further away from the office when everything went remote. He's now like 48 miles away and the cut off for not having to come into the office is 50, when he used to live something like 10 miles away. So he's not happy about that.

The nearest office to us is Seattle, so we're well outside the area that my wife would be required to come in, even if they do change the level at which they are requiring people to be back in the office.

Meanwhile, I've been bringing stuff from my cube at work home because they're transistioning to all "hotel" cubes, since they're realistic and have realized that not everyone needs to be in the office, and aren't going back on that promise.


Hotel cubes?  Sounds less like work, more like vacation -- and double for a Rubik's Cube enthusiast like myself!
 
2022-09-13 10:13:43 AM  

DuckSausage: logieal: My wife just started working for AF at the beginning of this year. She's a claims manager, and said that the announcement for coming back to the office doesn't affect her level, but her boss was affected. He had moved further away from the office when everything went remote. He's now like 48 miles away and the cut off for not having to come into the office is 50, when he used to live something like 10 miles away. So he's not happy about that.

The nearest office to us is Seattle, so we're well outside the area that my wife would be required to come in, even if they do change the level at which they are requiring people to be back in the office.

Meanwhile, I've been bringing stuff from my cube at work home because they're transistioning to all "hotel" cubes, since they're realistic and have realized that not everyone needs to be in the office, and aren't going back on that promise.

Hotel cubes?  Sounds less like work, more like vacation -- and double for a Rubik's Cube enthusiast like myself!


Yeah, but no chocolate on your pillow. And the turndown service sucks. Don't get me started on the housekeeping.
 
2022-09-13 5:51:24 PM  
When Life gives you a hammer, every problem looks like a watermelon.
 
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