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(Guardian) Hero As if you needed another reason to remind you that Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2022-09-07 12:57:02 PM  
Well played Joe.
Well played.
 
2022-09-07 1:11:41 PM  
Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective... but from a national-security perspective, it can be essential. As Russia is finding out now...
 
2022-09-07 1:21:56 PM  
In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.
 
2022-09-07 3:21:02 PM  

oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


Nixon created the EPA.

uh

That's all I got.
 
2022-09-07 3:43:27 PM  

xanadian: oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.

Nixon created the EPA.

uh

That's all I got.


and the R's want to gut it.
 
2022-09-07 3:57:21 PM  
This is what happens when you have a president who isn't a traitor.
 
2022-09-07 3:57:40 PM  
he just doesnt want them to find all of hunters laptops
 
2022-09-07 3:58:45 PM  

oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


All Americans or just the Americans that Republicans care about?
 
2022-09-07 3:59:05 PM  

oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


Don't forget Ronnie
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2022-09-07 3:59:07 PM  
Unpossible! I've been assured by many a Trumphumper that Biden is in China's back pocket and he is nothing but a puppet for their regime! I'm pretty sure the evidence is on Hunter's laptop.
 
2022-09-07 3:59:19 PM  

sorceror: Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective...


You spelled "never" wrong.
 
2022-09-07 3:59:54 PM  
Didn't the last guy have family investing in China and handing out visas?
 
2022-09-07 3:59:57 PM  
and my stonks go fpbllllllllt!

/ya win some
//ya lose some
 
2022-09-07 4:01:28 PM  

sorceror: Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective... but from a national-security perspective, it can be essential. As Russia is finding out now...


This isn't protectionism.

This is flat out denying China the ability to do what it wants with company IP for short term gains.
 
2022-09-07 4:01:39 PM  

oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


1. Drill
2. Baby
3. Drill
4. Fark
5. Yafeelins
 
2022-09-07 4:01:53 PM  
I mean he'd pretty much have to be right?
 
2022-09-07 4:02:28 PM  
US technology firms that receive government funding will be banned from building "advanced technology facilities" in China for a decade, the Biden administration has announced

Does this include tax cuts?
 
2022-09-07 4:02:29 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: Unpossible! I've been assured by many a Trumphumper that Biden is in China's back pocket and he is nothing but a puppet for their regime! I'm pretty sure the evidence is on Hunter's laptop.


Don't worry, in a couple of hours the magats will be going on about this is bad for the American Worker.
 
2022-09-07 4:02:31 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Didn't the last guy have family investing in China and handing out visas?


But that's DIFFERENT because they only did massive deals with the Chinese because they are so good at business, not corrupt like Sleepy Joe and HIS family.
 
2022-09-07 4:03:03 PM  

BMFPitt: sorceror: Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective...

You spelled "never" wrong.


In the Great Recession, most countries passed a stimulus plan containing infrastructure projects and required they use domestic materials. It worked really well for them.

The U.S. did not, which worked really well for China.
 
2022-09-07 4:03:50 PM  

oldernell: Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


Hey those Benghazi hearings made us all safer!
 
2022-09-07 4:04:13 PM  
It is a good policy but we already know what happens when wealthy politically connected people get busted selling goods to banned entities. Nothing. Nothing happens to them.
 
2022-09-07 4:06:09 PM  
I really hope that this investment brings a major manufacturing push to our country.  It may not replace everything that is made over there, but its a huge boon.  If it did nothing more than semiconductors for automotive application, it would resolve one of our biggest learned bottlenecks from the pandemic.

If we were doing motherboards, computer components, even better.  The sky is the limit.  The last couple years has been a disaster in terms of acquisition at our hospital and i'm sure every hospital has the same problems with EOL pcs, laptops that can't get everything they need.

its been refreshing to see at least some form of government doing a few things positively the last few years.
 
2022-09-07 4:06:26 PM  
Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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2022-09-07 4:07:30 PM  

vonster: Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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I mean, the bar isn't that high.
 
2022-09-07 4:08:20 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: It is a good policy but we already know what happens when wealthy politically connected people get busted selling goods to banned entities. Nothing. Nothing happens to them.


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/ They just have to split more of their cut and then go dark.
 
2022-09-07 4:08:56 PM  
The horse has been out of the barn a long time, Joe.
 
2022-09-07 4:08:57 PM  

vonster: Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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Best since Obama anyway.
 
2022-09-07 4:09:57 PM  
Wonder if Tesla is considered an advanced tech. If so, pass the popcorn.
 
2022-09-07 4:10:32 PM  

oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.


I've seen the first lady's tits. Never thought that would happen.
 
2022-09-07 4:11:08 PM  

Mrtraveler01: vonster: Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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Best since Obama anyway.


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2022-09-07 4:11:20 PM  
Donnie bloviated a bunch about protectionism about China but Biden actually decided to shiat instead of getting off the pot.
 
2022-09-07 4:11:37 PM  

Herbert's Hippopotamus: This is what happens when you have a president who isn't a traitor.


Yeah - Biden's not really all that fabulous - he's just not actively working for the enemy, like the last guy.
And by not being Black, he doesn't give the GOP an effective hate-point to focus on.
 
2022-09-07 4:11:49 PM  
Trump puts tariffs on China: "Racist Orange Man Bad Destroying Global Free Trade Protectionist Hitler Fascist"

Biden blocks American companies from working in China: "Best president in the last 50 years!"

Christ, get a grip people. We needed to rein in Chinese exposure for some time. This is the bare minimum and a good step in the right direction, but doesn't fix our underlying unequal trade setup with environmental protections and worker rights. I don't see anything here addressing that, and until it does we aren't going to see manufacturing come back to the USA. It will be a continuous "race to the bottom" as corporations will keep relocating to wherever slave labour and sludge dumping are legal.
 
2022-09-07 4:12:02 PM  

sorceror: Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective... but from a national-security perspective, it can be essential. As Russia is finding out now...


I am NOT an economist and should laughed out of any room if I tried to advise on economic policy, but there seems a lot of merit to the idea of securing SOME sources of critical goods. If Americans cannot get PS5s or the newest Iphone every 2 weeks, that is one thing, but if we cannot support computers/eq that run critical US utility, government, and military infrastructure we have a problem.

Same with rare earth metals and such. We have a bunch of abandon mines, buy that shiat up and dump it in there for later use (I have no idea of the practicality of that suggestion but the point is there).

Finally, we need at least some factories for internal production of components, etc...

If smarter people than I do it right, we could create good paying/stable jobs, have some strategic industrial capacity, and have some strategic reserves of supplies.

BUY ALL THE THINGS NOW!!!
 
2022-09-07 4:12:24 PM  
Dank, Dark Brandon continues to rise...

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2022-09-07 4:12:26 PM  

BMFPitt: sorceror: Protectionism is seldom a good idea from an economic perspective...

You spelled "never" wrong.


It's not just about economics. It's also about supply security in anticipation of conflict.
 
2022-09-07 4:12:55 PM  

vonster: Mrtraveler01: vonster: Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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Best since Obama anyway.

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You know there was only one president between Obama and Biden right?

And he was a huge joke compared to Obams and Biden.
 
2022-09-07 4:13:19 PM  

oldernell: xanadian: oldernell: In the last 50 years the GQP has given us Nixon, Ford 2 Bushes and donnie. Any Fark Conservatives want to name 5 things the R's have done to better the lives of the middle and poorer citizens. Or vets.

Nixon created the EPA.

uh

That's all I got.

and the R's want to gut it.


Want to? They already did.
 
2022-09-07 4:13:34 PM  
Have we developed non toxic forms of making superconductors and microchips or are we just going to poison our own water supplies (I say typing on a computer using Chinese infrastructure).
 
2022-09-07 4:13:51 PM  

Massa Damnata: Wonder if Tesla is considered an advanced tech. If so, pass the popcorn.


advanced at bursting into flames, maybe
 
hej
2022-09-07 4:14:03 PM  
He's definitely in the top 40 or so.
 
2022-09-07 4:14:13 PM  

RasIanI: Dank, Dark Brandon continues to rise...

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Never say the Democratic Party is not a cult.
 
2022-09-07 4:14:26 PM  
So Biden is doing what Trump said he'd do but didn't -- bring the manufacturing jobs back.
 
2022-09-07 4:14:37 PM  

Mrtraveler01: vonster: Mrtraveler01: vonster: Biden is one of the best Presidents of the past 50 years

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Best since Obama anyway.

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You know there was only one president between Obama and Biden right?

And he was a huge joke compared to Obams and Biden.


Stop feeding the troll.
 
2022-09-07 4:15:13 PM  
But I never got my $2,000 check!
 
2022-09-07 4:16:12 PM  
This is a repeat
 
2022-09-07 4:17:08 PM  
US bans 'advanced tech' firms from building facilities in China for a decade

Couldn't read the article as I've reached my limit, but does it include Tesla?  Is Tesla an "advanced tech" firm?  I know, sometimes, when using that autodrive feature, one has to stomp their feet down through the floorboard, Flintstones style, to stop in an emergency, but still, Teslas are supposed to be advanced.  Right?

And with all that sweet sweet government money, guaranteed markets and subsidies that are helping Elon make his numbers so he can get that obscene bonus and then find ways to avoid paying the government taxes on that profit...
 
2022-09-07 4:18:57 PM  

misanthropicsob: Have we developed non toxic forms of making superconductors and microchips or are we just going to poison our own water supplies (I say typing on a computer using Chinese infrastructure).


Received your talking points we see 🙄
 
2022-09-07 4:19:49 PM  
xanadian Nixon created the EPA.

Along with the Endangered Species Act.  Once upon a time, when a guy named Tom Seaver pitched for the Mets, there were republicans who gave a damn about the environment.

Now they can't wait to ruin everything in sight.
 
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