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(Twitter)   Elon Musk's displeasure with the Rings of Power means that his stans have taken to attacking *checks notes* Neil Gaiman over it. Who is, of course, playing along as only he can   (twitter.com) divider line
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2022-09-06 11:40:44 PM  
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2022-09-07 5:30:27 AM  
Neil Gaiman wrote comics for Comic Relief (started by one L. Henry and others) thirty years ago, I also seem to recall Lenny helped get Neverwhere made.

Yeah, he's really going to listen to some Musksniffers' opinions about a black hobbit.
 
2022-09-07 5:30:45 AM  
What a stupid reason to dislike a show. The color of the character's skin. "Well akshually there would not be African people in this totally plausible dwarfs living under a mountain scenario." Please fark off.

RoP is pretty good. Not 100% accurate to the original Tolkien time line, but still good.

Take HoD though. Bad writing. Bad direction. Bad acting because of the bad direction. It sucks. Not because there are non white people in this hypothetical world, but because of the reasons I give.
 
2022-09-07 5:37:57 AM  
If I wasn't watching before, I would now.

I hope it becomes the most popular show in history and Elon's stans take up immasculating themselves in protest.

Yes, a useless gesture, i know.
 
2022-09-07 5:51:19 AM  
I haven't seen the Rings of Power yet.. my father's been trying to get me to.  I wouldn't expect to see any Hobbits at the very start of the 2nd Age, but we never did know when Iluvatar made them.

Some asshole ranting at an author who has nothing to do with it seems like it fits the Angry Ignorance of the times.
 
2022-09-07 5:55:11 AM  
Does he really think he wrote it, or is it just an easy way to get attention?
 
2022-09-07 5:58:32 AM  
I really wanted to like the Rings of Power.

I tried to watch it three times,

I just couldn't bear it.
 
2022-09-07 5:59:30 AM  
Since when is Gaiman working on RoP?

Or is that the joke?
 
2022-09-07 6:02:06 AM  

Snapper Carr: Since when is Gaiman working on RoP?

Or is that the joke?


Gaiman dared to mock Musk on Twitter for making a racist criticism about the show.
 
2022-09-07 6:06:37 AM  

Snapper Carr: Since when is Gaiman working on RoP?

Or is that the joke?


Ever since Netflix cancelled Good Omens.
 
2022-09-07 6:07:21 AM  

born_yesterday: Snapper Carr: Since when is Gaiman working on RoP?

Or is that the joke?

Gaiman dared to mock Musk on Twitter for making a racist criticism about the show.


Yeah.  I figured it out.  I don't do Twitter so sometimes the replies look like they're in the wrong order to me until my brain adjusts.
 
2022-09-07 6:08:21 AM  

Snapper Carr: Since when is Gaiman working on RoP?

Or is that the joke?


You nailed it. Bigotry and low intelligence go hand in hand. Gaiman wrote and produced The Sandman, who has also provoked little shrieks of angst due to some characters having darker skin. Pterry Pratchett had the right idea: '"Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because -- what with trolls and dwarfs and so on -- speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green." Captain Carrot is clearly a redheaded white guy in Pratchett's books, but if they cast Regé-Jean Page in the role, you wouldn't catch me crying.
 
2022-09-07 6:11:03 AM  

Alphax: I haven't seen the Rings of Power yet.. my father's been trying to get me to.  I wouldn't expect to see any Hobbits at the very start of the 2nd Age, but we never did know when Iluvatar made them.

Some asshole ranting at an author who has nothing to do with it seems like it fits the Angry Ignorance of the times.


Hobbits aren't mentioned until 1,000 years into the 3rd age.

Which doesn't mean they were suddenly created on the spot in that particular year. And for some reason were numerous. And were already belonging to 3 different ethnicities. And were migrants already.

This is one of those (common sense) blank spots in Tolkien's history of Arda that the writers of "Rings of Power" are using to write their own stories.

Tolkien didn't write anything about Harfoots migrating this early in his history... but, he didn't ever say when they DID start their migration or when they were first created either.

Referee: "Fair Ball!"
 
2022-09-07 6:13:23 AM  
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2022-09-07 6:21:04 AM  
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2022-09-07 6:25:29 AM  

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THIS.
 
2022-09-07 6:29:43 AM  
Because we all could learn about diversity from an emotionally stunted hairplugged manchild who thinks of Apartheid South Africa as the good old days.
 
2022-09-07 6:38:07 AM  

BorgiaGinz: Captain Carrot is clearly a redheaded white guy in Pratchett's books, but if they cast Regé-Jean Page in the role, you wouldn't catch me crying.


The Watch: Introducing Constable Carrot (EXCLUSIVE)
Youtube 2gfWEU4PrYo

Too late; no tears to save.
 
2022-09-07 6:38:23 AM  
The show creators really HAVE to break the lore to make their show.

You cannot make a character driven narrative out of the events of the second age unless you are willing to rewrite the timeline that Tolkien created. Nothing has been broken yet, but I assume the timeline WILL be condensed in order to make a story out of it.

People keep claiming they broke lore already though.

So far... they have not. (Female dwarves should be more masculine perhaps, and elves should be impossible to tell their gender entirely, but besides that...)

Tell me what lore is broken, or what race and ethnicity the characters are not correct for. I will personally respond in this thread how you are wrong (within 24 hours). And I will provide citations.

A bunch of racists are providing people with bad takes on Tolkien's lore, and I fear people are believing it. This show is totally in bounds currently. If you have been listening to idiots, I will personally point you towards actual Tolkien material to fix your concerns.
 
2022-09-07 6:40:24 AM  
Of course Galadriel can swim back from Valinor in her nightie, she's white.
 
2022-09-07 6:46:26 AM  

Nurglitch: Of course Galadriel can swim back from Valinor in her nightie, she's white.


Galadriel in a wet nightie, what's not to like?
 
2022-09-07 6:51:19 AM  

born_yesterday: If I wasn't watching before, I would now.

I hope it becomes the most popular show in history and Elon's stans take up immasculating themselves in protest.

Yes, a useless gesture, i know.


Wait. You mean they already aren't?
 
2022-09-07 6:51:53 AM  

Captain Shaky: Tell me what lore is broken, or what race and ethnicity the characters are not correct for. I will personally respond in this thread how you are wrong (within 24 hours). And I will provide citations.


I thought the scene where radagast fathers the ents owed far more to modern sensibilities than the source material.  Everyone knows lube wasn't even invented yet in the second age.
 
2022-09-07 6:54:35 AM  
Stans? What is a Stans?
 
2022-09-07 6:54:49 AM  

Nurglitch: Of course Galadriel can swim back from Valinor in her nightie, she's white.


YOU have never read Tolkien and it shows.

Silly events that could never be true are commonplace in the bible... and the writings of Tolkien.

This was a good story event to include if the writers wanted people to think Tolkien himself might have come up with this. This is Tolkien copycatting at its absolute finest.
 
2022-09-07 6:55:43 AM  

WickerNipple: Captain Shaky: Tell me what lore is broken, or what race and ethnicity the characters are not correct for. I will personally respond in this thread how you are wrong (within 24 hours). And I will provide citations.

I thought the scene where radagast fathers the ents owed far more to modern sensibilities than the source material.  Everyone knows lube wasn't even invented yet in the second age.


Well.

You got me.

I cannot explain that.
 
2022-09-07 7:05:27 AM  

Captain Shaky: The show creators really HAVE to break the lore to make their show.

You cannot make a character driven narrative out of the events of the second age unless you are willing to rewrite the timeline that Tolkien created. Nothing has been broken yet, but I assume the timeline WILL be condensed in order to make a story out of it.

People keep claiming they broke lore already though.

So far... they have not. (Female dwarves should be more masculine perhaps, and elves should be impossible to tell their gender entirely, but besides that...)

Tell me what lore is broken, or what race and ethnicity the characters are not correct for. I will personally respond in this thread how you are wrong (within 24 hours). And I will provide citations.

A bunch of racists are providing people with bad takes on Tolkien's lore, and I fear people are believing it. This show is totally in bounds currently. If you have been listening to idiots, I will personally point you towards actual Tolkien material to fix your concerns.


Even before this there were harassment campaigns against Middle Age historians who had the gall to not not just teach that Black people have existed in Europe for over a thousand years, but had the utter temerity of showing proof too!
The version of white history they've created in their heads is so wrapped up in their own identities that anything that challenges it, no matter how objectively trivial, is an attack against them as a person.
 
2022-09-07 7:08:26 AM  

fisker: Stans? What is a Stans?


It's Neil Gaimon's nickname.
 
2022-09-07 7:11:53 AM  

fisker: Stans? What is a Stans?


Eminem - Stan (Long Version) ft. Dido
Youtube gOMhN-hfMtY
 
2022-09-07 7:13:47 AM  

Nicki Minaj's Cousin's Friend's Swollen Testicle: Does he really think he wrote it, or is it just an easy way to get attention?


Some Musk fanboy asked Neil Gaiman what he thought of Elon Musk not liking Rings of Power.

A confused "what do I have to do with any of this?" Neil replied with something like, "I wouldn't take literary criticism from Musk anymore than he should ask me for advice on how to not buy Twitter."

Cue legions of howling crypto-bros with chapped assholes.
 
2022-09-07 7:15:05 AM  

Zenith: Nurglitch: Of course Galadriel can swim back from Valinor in her nightie, she's white.

Galadriel in a wet nightie, what's not to like?


High Elf
Youtube rSJ_YXGt25o
 
2022-09-07 7:25:21 AM  

fisker: Stans? What is a Stans?


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2022-09-07 7:28:36 AM  

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"Everything that 's not totally lily-white, male and hetero is pandering!"
 
2022-09-07 7:30:49 AM  

fisker: Stans? What is a Stans?


Irrational and obsessive fan, from the Eminem song "Stan".
 
2022-09-07 7:40:40 AM  
You know, the more they complain the more I'm gonna watch the series and enjoy it just to make them angry. I don't care if Galadriel does a trench run against Dol Guldur in an X-Wing. It's worth it for the right wing hysterical nonsense. 

I also love that these idiots pine for the old days of the Jackson LOTR movies, which had no wokeness, even though exactly the same criticisms were made of the films then as are being made now. "They replaced Glorfindel with Arwen and allowed the character to speak out loud on screen! DOES THE DISGRACEFULNESS OF PC CULTURE KNOW NO BOUNDS?!?"
 
2022-09-07 7:48:02 AM  
Wait til they find out Star Trek isn't real.
 
2022-09-07 7:50:56 AM  
They do know that they don't HAVE to watch it if they don't like it, right?
 
2022-09-07 7:53:45 AM  

ryant123: You know, the more they complain the more I'm gonna watch the series and enjoy it just to make them angry. I don't care if Galadriel does a trench run against Dol Guldur in an X-Wing. It's worth it for the right wing hysterical nonsense. 

I also love that these idiots pine for the old days of the Jackson LOTR movies, which had no wokeness, even though exactly the same criticisms were made of the films then as are being made now. "They replaced Glorfindel with Arwen and allowed the character to speak out loud on screen! DOES THE DISGRACEFULNESS OF PC CULTURE KNOW NO BOUNDS?!?"


Can I still rail against the horribleness that was/is The Hobbit movies?

Tauriel is awful because there is no need for a love triangle sub-plot, it contributes nothing.  The big white orc is terrible because there is no reason for him either.  I could go on, but I'll restrain myself.
 
2022-09-07 7:54:17 AM  

hubiestubert: They do know that they don't HAVE to watch it if they don't like it, right?


Most won't, but they'll hate it anyway.
 
2022-09-07 7:56:24 AM  
If musk-suckers hate it you're doing something right.

Die chuds.
 
2022-09-07 7:59:26 AM  
"Neil Gaiman thinks your RACIST if you don't like the BLACK hobbit!"

Sometimes, I sit and think about the gifts given to humanity.

The edges we have against other animals that let us arise from small chittering mammals to become the dominant species on the planet.

Our ability to sweat effectively that lets us run for extreme distances.

Our ability to throw thing accurately, thus giving one of the best long distance attacks in the animal kingdom.

And finally the large brains that let us contemplate complex thoughts, form intricate relationships, and generate a culture that is rivaled only be eusocial insects.

I sit and think about all of this, and then something like this comes along.

Where I think of this person, actively using these gifts given to him by 200,000 years of pressured evolution, to be a real piece a shiat. To actively regress his fellow man.

It's a spit in the face of every hunter/gatherer that ever tried a new berry and died from it, or every young ape that figured out how to run on two feet.
 
2022-09-07 8:02:26 AM  
The real version of the show is on Mars.
 
2022-09-07 8:12:44 AM  

EvilEgg: Can I still rail against the horribleness that was/is The Hobbit movies?


Only if you watch the Lindsey Ellis video series about them and their disastrous impact on the New Zealand film industry.

In the space of 4 videos, I went from "I really don't enjoy the Hobbit movies" to "I'm angry that these were made"
 
2022-09-07 8:21:45 AM  

Snapper Carr: EvilEgg: Can I still rail against the horribleness that was/is The Hobbit movies?

Only if you watch the Lindsey Ellis video series about them and their disastrous impact on the New Zealand film industry.

In the space of 4 videos, I went from "I really don't enjoy the Hobbit movies" to "I'm angry that these were made"


I think I hate them enough already.
 
2022-09-07 8:26:18 AM  

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ahhhh.....we all need to start the day with a stupid take...and as always...you give the most stupid one possible on a regular basis.
 
2022-09-07 8:27:02 AM  
"Elon Musk doesn't come to me for advice on how to fail to buy Twitter, and I don't go to him for film, TV or literature criticism," "Good Omens" writer Neil Gaiman - who is not connected to the show - tweeted after being asked about Musk's remarks by a fan.
 
2022-09-07 8:28:06 AM  

hubiestubert: They do know that they don't HAVE to watch it if they don't like it, right?


Yes, but remember, these racist pieces of shiat are so full of their own shiat, they think no one should watch it either, and instead should watch the racist shiat that they watch.
 
2022-09-07 8:31:28 AM  

perigee: BorgiaGinz: Captain Carrot is clearly a redheaded white guy in Pratchett's books, but if they cast Regé-Jean Page in the role, you wouldn't catch me crying.

[YouTube video: The Watch: Introducing Constable Carrot (EXCLUSIVE)]
Too late; no tears to save.


You should just cry because the show is terrible.
 
2022-09-07 8:32:53 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Wait til they find out Star Trek isn't real.


I mean, you say that, but everyone is walking around with Communicators and PADDs these days.
 
2022-09-07 8:38:12 AM  

Maker_of_Roads: "Neil Gaiman thinks your RACIST if you don't like the BLACK hobbit!"

Sometimes, I sit and think about the gifts given to humanity.

The edges we have against other animals that let us arise from small chittering mammals to become the dominant species on the planet.

Our ability to sweat effectively that lets us run for extreme distances.

Our ability to throw thing accurately, thus giving one of the best long distance attacks in the animal kingdom.

And finally the large brains that let us contemplate complex thoughts, form intricate relationships, and generate a culture that is rivaled only be eusocial insects.

I sit and think about all of this, and then something like this comes along.

Where I think of this person, actively using these gifts given to him by 200,000 years of pressured evolution, to be a real piece a shiat. To actively regress his fellow man.

It's a spit in the face of every hunter/gatherer that ever tried a new berry and died from it, or every young ape that figured out how to run on two feet.


The white folks are at the top
Ask any proud white male.
A million years of evolution
We get Danny Quayle.


-Oingo Boingo
 
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