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2022-09-06 6:43:06 AM  
Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement.

Offer not valid if black.
 
2022-09-06 8:13:46 AM  
Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement. They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

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A family of 5 were killed today when Sherriff's Deputies ran them off the road into a ditch and the car burst into flames because they would not stop. All officers involved were found to be acting within their duties, promoted, and given a 4 week paid holiday at Disney."
 
2022-09-06 8:33:42 AM  
"The off-duty deputy actually used the word charged his vehicle,"

You can charge your Tesla by talking to it? Neat!
 
2022-09-06 8:36:04 AM  
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2022-09-06 8:37:17 AM  
Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement.
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Nice boilerplate deniability. I'm sure the union lawyer is happy.
 
2022-09-06 8:39:23 AM  
The SovCits are going to love this one. "I don't believe you are a real officer--name and badge number--I don't see it in my notes, you must be a fake officer."
 
2022-09-06 8:40:49 AM  
I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.
 
2022-09-06 8:41:26 AM  
The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables essentially deliver summons for the court. They're elected to sort of a weird, obsolete office with no real powers. But they are allowed to carry a gun, by an ancient state law (as is anyone else, these days). They're not trained or sworn peace officers.

So, what happens is the guys who can't pass tests to enter the police academy (i.e. they're psychotic or insane) run for constable. If they win, they can wear a uniform and carry a gun. They dress up their car to look like a cruiser. They're not allowed to use blue lights, pull anyone over, make arrests...they can deliver summons. Period.

A couple of police detectives I know told me a story recently about how they were out one night in their personal vehicle. Blue lights go off behind them. They radio to ask who's patrolling. Nobody was supposed to be patrolling that area. They pull over. A constable approaches. They talk to him for a couple of minutes until actual police arrive. He had a hard time explaining why he's pulling over cars. Anyway, he was arrested and charged and convicted of impersonating an officer. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.
 
2022-09-06 8:46:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement. They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

"A family of 5 were killed today when Sherriff's Deputies ran them off the road into a ditch and the car burst into flames because they would not stop. All officers involved were found to be acting within their duties, promoted, and given a 4 week paid holiday at Disney."


Cop Flips Pregnant Mom's Car for Not Pulling Over Fast Enough
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2022-09-06 8:49:44 AM  
Can't read it now, putting blue lights in the grill of my Crown Vic.
 
2022-09-06 8:50:05 AM  
Yeah. Because NOT pulling over for a cop usually ends in a cordial "oh, that's ok, you couldn't be sure that I was an actual cop."
 
2022-09-06 8:54:57 AM  

beezeltown: The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables essentially deliver summons for the court. They're elected to sort of a weird, obsolete office with no real powers. But they are allowed to carry a gun, by an ancient state law (as is anyone else, these days). They're not trained or sworn peace officers.

So, what happens is the guys who can't pass tests to enter the police academy (i.e. they're psychotic or insane) run for constable. If they win, they can wear a uniform and carry a gun. They dress up their car to look like a cruiser. They're not allowed to use blue lights, pull anyone over, make arrests...they can deliver summons. Period.

A couple of police detectives I know told me a story recently about how they were out one night in their personal vehicle. Blue lights go off behind them. They radio to ask who's patrolling. Nobody was supposed to be patrolling that area. They pull over. A constable approaches. They talk to him for a couple of minutes until actual police arrive. He had a hard time explaining why he's pulling over cars. Anyway, he was arrested and charged and convicted of impersonating an officer. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.


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2022-09-06 8:55:32 AM  
"The off-duty deputy actually used the word charged his vehicle," Delohery explained. Fearing for his safety, the off-duty deputy pulled his firearm on the man and detained him.

That's how you know he was the real police, he used all the proper phrases from his training.
 
2022-09-06 8:57:10 AM  

Majin_Buu: NewportBarGuy: Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement. They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

"A family of 5 were killed today when Sherriff's Deputies ran them off the road into a ditch and the car burst into flames because they would not stop. All officers involved were found to be acting within their duties, promoted, and given a 4 week paid holiday at Disney."

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She got paid off from the State of Arkansas.....but the trooper is still working.

https://www.kark.com/news/working4you/arkansas-state-police-settle-pit-maneuver-lawsuit-which-injured-pregnant-woman/
 
2022-09-06 8:58:18 AM  

beezeltown: The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables essentially deliver summons for the court. They're elected to sort of a weird, obsolete office with no real powers. But they are allowed to carry a gun, by an ancient state law (as is anyone else, these days). They're not trained or sworn peace officers.

So, what happens is the guys who can't pass tests to enter the police academy (i.e. they're psychotic or insane) run for constable. If they win, they can wear a uniform and carry a gun. They dress up their car to look like a cruiser. They're not allowed to use blue lights, pull anyone over, make arrests...they can deliver summons. Period.

A couple of police detectives I know told me a story recently about how they were out one night in their personal vehicle. Blue lights go off behind them. They radio to ask who's patrolling. Nobody was supposed to be patrolling that area. They pull over. A constable approaches. They talk to him for a couple of minutes until actual police arrive. He had a hard time explaining why he's pulling over cars. Anyway, he was arrested and charged and convicted of impersonating an officer. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.


I had a cousin that was a constable for a while, Lubbock I think, or the next county over. He had been a deputy sheriff for years and wanted an easier job as he neared retirement. He liked it because he mostly ran unopposed and had basically one job: here is your summons or writ from the court.
 
2022-09-06 9:01:12 AM  
Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.
 
2022-09-06 9:03:05 AM  

Vansthing: I had a cousin that was a constable for a while,


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2022-09-06 9:04:06 AM  
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2022-09-06 9:04:42 AM  
>They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

Something like 2/3rds of the patrol cars in my town and the towns around me are unmarked. Because ambushing speeders makes more money for the city than the deterrence factor of having marked patrol cars.
 
2022-09-06 9:06:31 AM  

beezeltown: The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables essentially deliver summons for the court. They're elected to sort of a weird, obsolete office with no real powers. But they are allowed to carry a gun, by an ancient state law (as is anyone else, these days). They're not trained or sworn peace officers.

So, what happens is the guys who can't pass tests to enter the police academy (i.e. they're psychotic or insane) run for constable. If they win, they can wear a uniform and carry a gun. They dress up their car to look like a cruiser. They're not allowed to use blue lights, pull anyone over, make arrests...they can deliver summons. Period.

A couple of police detectives I know told me a story recently about how they were out one night in their personal vehicle. Blue lights go off behind them. They radio to ask who's patrolling. Nobody was supposed to be patrolling that area. They pull over. A constable approaches. They talk to him for a couple of minutes until actual police arrive. He had a hard time explaining why he's pulling over cars. Anyway, he was arrested and charged and convicted of impersonating an officer. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.


We have "citizens on patrol" here. Groups of older white men who get off on driving around parking lots harassing people for having out of date tabs or various other minor infractions. It just seems like a really weird way to spend your time. Also I would hope a good way to get your ass beat.
 
2022-09-06 9:20:43 AM  

Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.


Even easier to breaking down their door at night and shouting cops.

Around here the cops will even help you do it. Just claim to be a bounty hunter looking for someone. 
None of the cops were ever charged with anything.
 
2022-09-06 9:21:16 AM  

uberaverage: Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.


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2022-09-06 9:24:13 AM  

ifky: beezeltown: The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables [...]. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.

Pennsylvania like typing detected.


Kentucky...pretty sure this happens in plenty of states.
 
2022-09-06 9:26:58 AM  

Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.


It does, I'm sure.

Less than 1% of the population are current or former cops. So for every story like this, there are at least 99 times a fake cop shakes down someone and they just assume he's real because we are so conditioned to accept police brutality and corruption.
 
2022-09-06 9:29:22 AM  
I love this bit from Laurie Anderson:

I was living out in West Hollywood when the Hollywood strangler was strangling women. Every night there was a panel discussion on TV about the strangler--speculations about his habits, his motives, his methods--one thing was clear about him: he only strangled women when they were alone, or with other women
And the panel members would always end the show by saying: "Now for all you women, listen: don't go outside without a man. Don't walk out to your car, don't even take the garbage out by yourself, always go with a man."

Then, one of the eyewitnesses identified a policeman as one of the suspects. The next night, the chief of the police was on the panel, and he said:

"Now for all you women, whatever happens, do not stop for a police officer. Stay in your car. If a police officer tries to stop you, do not stop. Keep driving, and under no circumstances should you get out of your car"

For a few weeks, half the traffic in LA was doing twice the speed limit.
 
2022-09-06 9:42:25 AM  

Majin_Buu: NewportBarGuy: Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement. They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

"A family of 5 were killed today when Sherriff's Deputies ran them off the road into a ditch and the car burst into flames because they would not stop. All officers involved were found to be acting within their duties, promoted, and given a 4 week paid holiday at Disney."

[YouTube video: Cop Flips Pregnant Mom's Car for Not Pulling Over Fast Enough]


To much focus on she's pregnant, do they think he targeted her because she was pregnant?  I guess that gets clicks
 
2022-09-06 9:43:04 AM  

beezeltown: The funny ones are Constables pretending to be sworn officers. Around here, constables essentially deliver summons for the court. They're elected to sort of a weird, obsolete office with no real powers. But they are allowed to carry a gun, by an ancient state law (as is anyone else, these days). They're not trained or sworn peace officers.

So, what happens is the guys who can't pass tests to enter the police academy (i.e. they're psychotic or insane) run for constable. If they win, they can wear a uniform and carry a gun. They dress up their car to look like a cruiser. They're not allowed to use blue lights, pull anyone over, make arrests...they can deliver summons. Period.

A couple of police detectives I know told me a story recently about how they were out one night in their personal vehicle. Blue lights go off behind them. They radio to ask who's patrolling. Nobody was supposed to be patrolling that area. They pull over. A constable approaches. They talk to him for a couple of minutes until actual police arrive. He had a hard time explaining why he's pulling over cars. Anyway, he was arrested and charged and convicted of impersonating an officer. His cosplay car, gun and costume were all seized and he went to jail.

Anyway...I thought it was amusing.


Pennsylvania like typing detected.

That's the local constable in PennsylTucky described in exactingly accurate detail.

Misdemeanor conviction in past for drug possession that disqualifies from being a cop.  Check.

High school drop out with no GED.  Check

Can't pass the most basic of psychological screening.  Check.

Head the size of the "T" because he can be at the polling place on election day, but can tell the sops they can't be there.  Check.

Just another reason to exfiltrate from PA.....
 
2022-09-06 9:44:56 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: >They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

Something like 2/3rds of the patrol cars in my town and the towns around me are unmarked. Because ambushing speeders makes more money for the city than the deterrence factor of having marked patrol cars.


Deterrence only works if you see them, if any car can be a cop then it's wise to slow down.  I would prefer all cop cars unmarked with some easy way to become identifiable like pop up roof lights.
 
2022-09-06 9:47:39 AM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: uberaverage: Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.

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Extortion is getting money by use of force or threat, nobodybis forcing you to speed or blow red lights.  You just want them easy to spot like traffic cams so you know when to slow down.
 
2022-09-06 10:05:01 AM  

ctighe2353: Dr. Nick Riviera: uberaverage: Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.

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Extortion is getting money by use of force or threat, nobodybis forcing you to speed or blow red lights.  You just want them easy to spot like traffic cams so you know when to slow down.


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2022-09-06 10:08:43 AM  

ctighe2353: [YouTube video: Cop Flips Pregnant Mom's Car for Not Pulling Over Fast Enough]

To much focus on she's pregnant, do they think he targeted her because she was pregnant?  I guess that gets clicks


It does a nice job of underscoring how dangerous and stupidly unnecessary it was for Officer Assclown to cause another vehicle to flip over and crash because of a minor traffic violation.

Does being a Badge Sniffer "get clicks," too?
 
2022-09-06 10:16:09 AM  

ctighe2353: Dr. Nick Riviera: uberaverage: Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.

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Extortion is getting money by use of force or threat, nobodybis forcing you to speed or blow red lights.  You just want them easy to spot like traffic cams so you know when to slow down.


I want them easily identified, like all the other gang members.  If they are conspicuous, I can stay away from them.  Like a rattle snake.
 
2022-09-06 10:25:09 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: >They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

Something like 2/3rds of the patrol cars in my town and the towns around me are unmarked. Because ambushing speeders makes more money for the city than the deterrence factor of having marked patrol cars.


"Excuse me, are you that an unmarked police car? I'm supposed to know."
 
2022-09-06 10:44:29 AM  

FIFTEEN BOXES: Head the size of the "T" because he can be at the polling place on election day, but can tell the sops they can't be there.


Something was communicated here.
 
2022-09-06 10:55:45 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: >They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

Something like 2/3rds of the patrol cars in my town and the towns around me are unmarked. Because ambushing speeders makes more money for the city than the deterrence factor of having marked patrol cars.


Unmarked cars can't pull over vehicles in the state of California.  There was a court case decades ago when a woman wouldn't stop for a Honda Civic with lights and sirens because she thought it was a fake cop that might rob or rape her (it was, in fact, a real cop).  The court decided that, yes, that's pretty sketchy and her fears were reasonable and therefore only marked vehicles can pull somebody over.  Now, some of the CHP Interceptors (like their Corvettes) are very lightly marked (only on the doors).
 
2022-09-06 10:59:04 AM  
Here's an example of the driver doing what is recommended in the drivers handbook and still gets a gun pointed at her:

https://www.kktv.com/2022/08/21/deputy-resigns-after-traffic-stop-that-pregnant-mother-calls-terrifying/
 
2022-09-06 11:00:25 AM  
Brighton police say, if you ever find yourself in this situation, don't pull over and put down your window for a vehicle you suspect is not law enforcement. Instead, drive at a safe speed, and turn your hazards on. Then call 911 to confirm if the person pulling you over is a member of law enforcement.

Cops just really really like hurting people. That's the only takeaway I get from this advice that, if put into practice with an actual officer, would result in a hospital stay, at best.
 
2022-09-06 11:42:38 AM  

fnordfocus: Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.

It does, I'm sure.

Less than 1% of the population are current or former cops. So for every story like this, there are at least 99 times a fake cop shakes down someone and they just assume he's real because we are so conditioned to accept police brutality and corruption.


That's the weirdest misuse of statistics I've seen in ages. The logic, it does not compute.
 
2022-09-06 11:46:05 AM  
> They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

I've seen a couple high-response incidents in my town and it blows me away how many unmarked cars we have.

But they're all black, lulz. So I assume all black cars are cops here.
 
2022-09-06 11:51:34 AM  

allears: fnordfocus: Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.

It does, I'm sure.

Less than 1% of the population are current or former cops. So for every story like this, there are at least 99 times a fake cop shakes down someone and they just assume he's real because we are so conditioned to accept police brutality and corruption.

That's the weirdest misuse of statistics I've seen in ages. The logic, it does not compute.


Why not?

If the cop-impersonator keeps getting away with it until he finds a real cop, and he gets away with it about p=99% of time time, the expectation of his abuse streak is 1 / (1-p) times he abuses some civilian scum and gets away with it.

Alternatively, what are the chances someone like me could call the cops and expect them to actually do anything besides hang up on me?
 
2022-09-06 11:55:21 AM  

fnordfocus: Alternatively, what are the chances someone like me could call the cops and expect them to actually do anything besides hang up on me?


I mean call the cops and report an impersonator. They'd be like "yeah whatever" or maybe just assume it was really one of their buddies.
 
2022-09-06 12:00:57 PM  

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I don't even think he can fit in a vest or stand up for long enough to do that any more.

I don't get the end game on this, I assume sometimes it's powertripping idiots who couldn't become a cop (literally the easiest standardized test I've ever seen).or are they hoping they get some milf who blows them to get out of a ticket? Anyway this happens a ton, some of it doesn't get reported, some people don't even know it wasn't a cop, if your not from the area and they don't give you a ticket how the hell would you know? I remember some jackoff in my hometown got arrested for it. It's a town with two cops. Everyone knows them by name. Yeah it had a major road that plenty of people from out of town are on, but someone local is gonna see your dumbass doing it.
 
2022-09-06 12:04:32 PM  
 
2022-09-06 12:05:05 PM  

Geotpf: Unmarked cars can't pull over vehicles in the state of California.


I've seen some states doing black on black markings to get around this. I'm surprised CA hasn't done that.
 
2022-09-06 12:13:00 PM  

fnordfocus: allears: fnordfocus: Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.

It does, I'm sure.

Less than 1% of the population are current or former cops. So for every story like this, there are at least 99 times a fake cop shakes down someone and they just assume he's real because we are so conditioned to accept police brutality and corruption.

That's the weirdest misuse of statistics I've seen in ages. The logic, it does not compute.

Why not?

If the cop-impersonator keeps getting away with it until he finds a real cop, and he gets away with it about p=99% of time time, the expectation of his abuse streak is 1 / (1-p) times he abuses some civilian scum and gets away with it.

Alternatively, what are the chances someone like me could call the cops and expect them to actually do anything besides hang up on me?


I was told there would be no maths!
 
2022-09-06 1:02:51 PM  

Fabric_Man: I am genuinely shocked this doesn't happen more often. I feel like this should be a daily occurrence in the US. So much of the population has been conditioned into total acquiescence when they see a uniform. If I were a thief, posing as a cop would make stick-ups so much easier.


It does happen often.  I've seen 3 fake cops get busted in three different states.  One in my current town...

I also expect it to happen even more - with free passes given.  It'll be a last-gasp attempt at fascism.
 
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2022-09-06 1:28:39 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: >They also recommend familiarizing yourself with the vehicles of your local law enforcement agencies.

Something like 2/3rds of the patrol cars in my town and the towns around me are unmarked. Because ambushing speeders makes more money for the city than the deterrence factor of having marked patrol cars.


This. I could probably walk downtown right now and find an unmarked NYSP car parked somewhere in the village watching for traffic infractions. Unmarked policing should never be used for minor infractions, especially if they're going to be tailgating people at night with their headlights off, or getting out to walk through people's back yards at 11pm without a warrant or reasonable suspicion. Especially in this area where everyone owns guns and half of them have concealed carry permits, because you know as soon as someone defends themselves against an unknown armed assailant who is actually a cop they become the bad guy.
 
2022-09-06 2:00:06 PM  
How are you to know if the guy beating a handcuffed black man is legal or not?
 
2022-09-06 2:51:26 PM  

Dr. Nick Riviera: uberaverage: Maybe if the cops drove cars that looked like cop cars it would be harder to impersonate them.

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God, yes.

I did a goodly chunk of driving over the weekend, a trip down into the hills where my family is from originally.

300 miles each way, and how I go (no turnpike, no interstates) it's through a lot of small towns. I abuse my cruise control on that trip- lock it to whatever, so the local Barney Fife wannabes keep off my back.

Lost count how many well-hidden and poorly-marked cops I saw over the weekend.
 
2022-09-06 3:25:47 PM  

fnordfocus: 99 times a fake cop shakes down someone


What is the shakedown?

Do they have booklets of fake tickets? What's the point of that?

You don't give cops money, so if it IS a robbery, then I feel like these would be reported as thefts. Complete with victims going "Here's my phone video of the person, and their car, and their license plate."

What was the shake down plan here???

It sounds like he was just a totally drunk idiot, but he DID have the flash-bar so he had been planning to do this?

I just have so many questions around how this was supposed to work out.
 
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