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2150 clicks; posted to Business » on 04 Sep 2022 at 9:05 AM (12 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-09-04 8:03:15 AM  
Every time I see that show, I think to myself, "The world is so farked up because those kids are the ones running things now."
 
2022-09-04 9:13:27 AM  

bostonguy: Every time I see that show, I think to myself, "The world is so farked up because those kids are the ones running things now."


Trauma has to perpetuate itself.
 
2022-09-04 9:13:46 AM  
Niall was my college advisor back in the day.  This is just another one of his "hot takes so I can get a bit more attention in the media".

/I miss talking with my supervisor about Niall.  She would always roll her eyes at his latest media-friendly stunt.
//strange the article didn't mention him teaching at Oxford....or his fawning biography of Kissinger, or his embrace of neo-colonialism
 
2022-09-04 9:31:50 AM  
FFS.  Would you quit comparing everything to everything else?  No time is exactly like some other time.  No  generation is like one thing or another.  No city is "like" this city.  Everything is different.   There are 12 billion random facts working together to make something as it is.  Something else isn't "like" it.

Just trying to foist this crap on me just because you need to fill up column inches. Oh you're a historian.  Well then--that makes you an expert on EVERYTHING.  No it doesn't. It makes you an expert at collecting random facts, then putting them together to suggest the world that already existed in your head.

In the 70s, we had a world of resources to plunder.  Why, we'd barely gotten started on drive-thrus, Starbucks didn't exist, we still went to the movies, and nobody got anything delivered unless it was a refrigerator or a wash machine.  You kids enriched an entire sector of laze consumerism that has kept us going until now, when the planet crashed. And you can't buy your way out of that one.

I bet that historian has never seen a world like this one. It doesn't parse with the world that he wants to live in.  Just like Farkers.  There must be a trillion reasons for something to be "like this"--and none of them have anything to do with our greed.  Nope, he's never seen that before, and neither has anyone who lives in the first world.  It's just (waves hands) economic and world forces!  Political unrest and a shift to the right by the masses!

History is written by those who are best at excusing their role in the whole rotten thing.
 
2022-09-04 9:38:51 AM  
I know TFA isn't about the show but the show was made in the 90s, meaning if they did a show like that now it would be "That 2000s Show". Aside from technology, don't think there was enough different about the 2000s to be as much of a novelty.

Yeah we were in two wars but we just recently got out of Afghanistan. We had another fascist republican President until relatively recently. Fashion and music isn't really that different. It'd be a show that would remind us how things suck about as much as it did then.

Now "That 90s Show" would be fun because everything was better then. And I'm old.
 
2022-09-04 9:58:52 AM  
Im seeing a lot of bras for the 70s
 
2022-09-04 10:29:49 AM  
This could be the dumbest hot take ever.
 
2022-09-04 10:45:29 AM  
One of the bigger differences is that there really wasn't an alternative to fossil fuels in the 70s.

It's not fully developed yet, but there are some alternatives that are viable enough that they are releasing some of the pressure.

And what is going on now is actually driving development, which may not help right now, but will be a great help in the future to be able to tell Russia to fark right off with their shiat.
 
2022-09-04 10:46:06 AM  
I get Mila.
 
2022-09-04 10:53:52 AM  

transporter_ii: One of the bigger differences is that there really wasn't an alternative to fossil fuels in the 70s.


Well I'd put that under "technology". I was mostly talking about politics, fashion, music, shiat like that. Back in the 1990s you could definitely tell it a movie or TV show was made in or set in the 1970s. Aside from technology, not so much. Like I'm re-watching The X-Files and you could run that as a show made today aside from once again, the tech.
 
2022-09-04 11:07:22 AM  
It sounds awful, but I'd almost welcome this, if only to get everyone who believes the 70s were a magical time in history where a high school grad would get a sweet sweet factory job and support the wife and kids without any financial hardship and everything was super awesome and nothing at all like the hardships we have faced in in the 00+s
 
2022-09-04 11:26:58 AM  

Mugato: I know TFA isn't about the show but the show was made in the 90s, meaning if they did a show like that now it would be "That 2000s Show". Aside from technology, don't think there was enough different about the 2000s to be as much of a novelty.

Yeah we were in two wars but we just recently got out of Afghanistan. We had another fascist republican President until relatively recently. Fashion and music isn't really that different. It'd be a show that would remind us how things suck about as much as it did then.

Now "That 90s Show" would be fun because everything was better then. And I'm old.


It was 22 years in the past when it started. If they did it today, it would be feature teens living in 2000 and all the late 90s fashion/culture/jokes would work.

Bring it on, American Pie 1&2 (1999/2001), Loser, Road Trip

Frost some tips, have all the males be homophobic, make a trans joke or two, replace smartphones with Nokia's, have them rock some pop punk, maybe drive up to Warped Tour?

I'd probably watch it, but I have low standards.
 
2022-09-04 12:01:43 PM  

Mugato: transporter_ii: One of the bigger differences is that there really wasn't an alternative to fossil fuels in the 70s.

Well I'd put that under "technology". I was mostly talking about politics, fashion, music, shiat like that. Back in the 1990s you could definitely tell it a movie or TV show was made in or set in the 1970s. Aside from technology, not so much. Like I'm re-watching The X-Files and you could run that as a show made today aside from once again, the tech.


You don't think a show about heroic FBI agents investigating crackpot conspiracy theories, some of which are covered up by a Deep State of secretive government agencies, would play differently in 2022? When the X-files was made, the FBI was still cleaning house post-J. Edgar Hoover and was attempting to stay above the political fray. A rebooted X-files would have to contend with the all of the drama post-Comey, as well as post-Mar-A-Lago.
 
2022-09-04 12:03:02 PM  
The 70s look good in the rear view but it's mostly a great place to be from. Don't go back.
 
2022-09-04 12:14:06 PM  

Psychopompous: Mugato: transporter_ii: One of the bigger differences is that there really wasn't an alternative to fossil fuels in the 70s.

Well I'd put that under "technology". I was mostly talking about politics, fashion, music, shiat like that. Back in the 1990s you could definitely tell it a movie or TV show was made in or set in the 1970s. Aside from technology, not so much. Like I'm re-watching The X-Files and you could run that as a show made today aside from once again, the tech.

You don't think a show about heroic FBI agents investigating crackpot conspiracy theories, some of which are covered up by a Deep State of secretive government agencies, would play differently in 2022? When the X-files was made, the FBI was still cleaning house post-J. Edgar Hoover and was attempting to stay above the political fray. A rebooted X-files would have to contend with the all of the drama post-Comey, as well as post-Mar-A-Lago.


I'm not saying every detail would be the same, I'm just saying it wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb the way a show set in the 70s or 80s would.
 
2022-09-04 12:37:12 PM  
The light will never go out as long as there is no disco revival.
 
2022-09-04 1:04:26 PM  

edmo: The 70s look good in the rear view but it's mostly a great place to be from. Don't go back.


I was there.  I agree.
 
2022-09-04 1:34:50 PM  
Inflation is trending down, energy prices are mostly dropping, wages are going up while employment is starting steady, interest rates are barely over 5%. It's just like the 70s, except if the 70s were the opposite of the 70s!

This guy missed his mark on doom and gloom predictions by like two months.
 
2022-09-04 2:38:44 PM  
So we're due for a return of polyester suits and combover haircuts? Waiter, check please.

/actually T-Bills payed out quite nicely back then
//assuming you actually had some savings
 
2022-09-04 5:08:02 PM  

Lusiphur: Inflation is trending down, energy prices are mostly dropping, wages are going up while employment is starting steady, interest rates are barely over 5%. It's just like the 70s, except if the 70s were the opposite of the 70s!

This guy missed his mark on doom and gloom predictions by like two months.


Bro, this is fark. Nobody can afford houses (except all the people who keep buying houses), nobody can afford rent (despite renters bidding the price up), nobody can afford vacations (as the travel industry struggles under the strain), nobody can afford gas (as vehicle miles continue to climb), and nobody has any savings (despite people being so flush with cash they plow it into meme stocks and crypto scams).

Everything is awful, excerpt for most normal people who are just fine.
 
2022-09-04 10:09:27 PM  

cryinoutloud: FFS.  Would you quit comparing everything to everything else?  No time is exactly like some other time.  No  generation is like one thing or another.  No city is "like" this city.  Everything is different.   There are 12 billion random facts working together to make something as it is.  Something else isn't "like" it.

Just trying to foist this crap on me just because you need to fill up column inches. Oh you're a historian.  Well then--that makes you an expert on EVERYTHING.  No it doesn't. It makes you an expert at collecting random facts, then putting them together to suggest the world that already existed in your head.

In the 70s, we had a world of resources to plunder.  Why, we'd barely gotten started on drive-thrus, Starbucks didn't exist, we still went to the movies, and nobody got anything delivered unless it was a refrigerator or a wash machine.  You kids enriched an entire sector of laze consumerism that has kept us going until now, when the planet crashed. And you can't buy your way out of that one.

I bet that historian has never seen a world like this one. It doesn't parse with the world that he wants to live in.  Just like Farkers.  There must be a trillion reasons for something to be "like this"--and none of them have anything to do with our greed.  Nope, he's never seen that before, and neither has anyone who lives in the first world.  It's just (waves hands) economic and world forces!  Political unrest and a shift to the right by the masses!

History is written by those who are best at excusing their role in the whole rotten thing.


Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before.
 
2022-09-05 12:51:10 AM  

cryinoutloud: FFS.  Would you quit comparing everything to everything else?  No time is exactly like some other time.  No  generation is like one thing or another.  No city is "like" this city.  Everything is different.   There are 12 billion random facts working together to make something as it is.  Something else isn't "like" it.

Just trying to foist this crap on me just because you need to fill up column inches. Oh you're a historian.  Well then--that makes you an expert on EVERYTHING.  No it doesn't. It makes you an expert at collecting random facts, then putting them together to suggest the world that already existed in your head.

In the 70s, we had a world of resources to plunder.  Why, we'd barely gotten started on drive-thrus, Starbucks didn't exist, we still went to the movies, and nobody got anything delivered unless it was a refrigerator or a wash machine.  You kids enriched an entire sector of laze consumerism that has kept us going until now, when the planet crashed. And you can't buy your way out of that one.

I bet that historian has never seen a world like this one. It doesn't parse with the world that he wants to live in.  Just like Farkers.  There must be a trillion reasons for something to be "like this"--and none of them have anything to do with our greed.  Nope, he's never seen that before, and neither has anyone who lives in the first world.  It's just (waves hands) economic and world forces!  Political unrest and a shift to the right by the masses!

History is written by those who are best at excusing their role in the whole rotten thing.


People struggle to explain reality. They apply metaphors, none of which is perfectly applicable to reality. The whole trick is figuring out what aspects can be applied, and what can't.

In another thread today, people wondered if nuclear hysteria of the early 80s is comparable to what we have today. Well. No. Not really. And several people noted that people felt the same way about nuclear weapons then as they feel about climate change today. Most people nodded in agreement.

We have a bad situation today where people apply the wrong metaphors over and over, and see patterns in weird ways that have more to do with peer pressure than reason. Bitcoin is somehow believed to be so new that nobody could possibly apply a "ponzi scheme" metaphor. And yet, certain cartoonists can get away with applying a Christ metaphor to Trump. This is modern humanity.

People accept similes and metaphors as shorthand and Cliff's notes. Few people have the time and ability to make their decisions from scratch. Charlatans will take advantage of lazy people.
 
2022-09-05 10:48:42 AM  

cryinoutloud: FFS.  Would you quit comparing everything to everything else?


They use to do that back in the '60s
 
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