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(NFL)   Las Vegas, whose very first draft was in 2020, already cut both of those 1st round picks, and traded away their 2022 1st round pick, just cut their 2021 1st round pick   (nfl.com) divider line
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    More: Fail, American football, Josh McDaniels, National Football League, Leatherwood's selection, Jon Gruden, American football positions, cornerback Trayvon Mullen, former second-round selection  
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566 clicks; posted to Sports » on 31 Aug 2022 at 10:26 AM (28 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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harleyquinnical
2022-08-31 10:03:25 AM  
But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-08-31 10:29:19 AM  

harleyquinnical: But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius


And Mayock.

/whats with pretending that the Raiders didn't have a past before Vegas though?
//not like they're the Ravens
 
TDWCom29
2022-08-31 10:30:14 AM  
And yet they still have a decent chance at the playoffs again this year (though the division is rough). Just imagine if they hit on any of these picks
 
Rapmaster2000 [TotalFark]
2022-08-31 10:32:17 AM  
Well, I can't blame Gruden for Ruggs drunk driving at 100 mph.
 
LucklessWonder [TotalFark]
2022-08-31 10:37:31 AM  
I would have guessed that the Raiders first draft was in 1960, or 1970 if you only want to count NFL drafts.
 
Farkonaut
2022-08-31 10:48:39 AM  
The Lions saw this headline, got a splinter in their paw and hobbled back to their den.
 
fatalvenom
2022-08-31 11:19:11 AM  
Look at how many draft picks prior to the draft that the Patriots took Mack Jones and Barmore that are still on the team.

/That's Belichick GMing...
 
TDWCom29
2022-08-31 11:24:28 AM  

fatalvenom: Look at how many draft picks prior to the draft that the Patriots took Mack Jones and Barmore that are still on the team.

/That's Belichick GMing...


Which is what happens when pretty much any coach becomes the GM. Which makes me a liiitle bit nervous that Mike Tomlin is now pretty much the de-facto GM. At least when it comes to player acquisition
 
johnryan51 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-08-31 11:38:18 AM  
Wasn't the Raiders drafting a punter the reason both leagues joined together? They know what they're doing......jk....
 
Crocoduck
2022-08-31 11:59:04 AM  
At least this first rounder didn't kill anyone.  So, that's progress of a sort...
 
dallylamma
2022-08-31 12:29:25 PM  
Are they still drafting the fastest wide receiver possible, regardless of team need or the said receiver's ability to catch a ball?
 
Dafatone
2022-08-31 12:36:40 PM  
Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.
 
Ken VeryBigLiar
2022-08-31 12:39:56 PM  

Dafatone: Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.


Had the physical tools but tossing around schemes did him no favors.  He was a liability at RT and they couldn't even hide him at RG which kind of limits your roster viability.  I'm surprised Dallas or Chicago or some of the other teams with horrendous o-lines don't bring him in right away.
 
Super Chronic
2022-08-31 12:59:50 PM  
Say what you will about sunk costs, but I imagine teams want to give first-round picks every chance to succeed and give them enough rope to do so. To cut ties with Leatherwood after a single season indicates that he must be not just bad, but horrific, to the point of being unplayable and a liability even in practice.

And that's what I would say to anyone who thinks "hey, maybe my team should claim him, since he's still the same guy who earned at least a second-round grade a year ago; a second-round grade is still pretty good." No, he is not still the same guy. One year of NFL tape and team performance reviews are more telling about his abilities than four years of college.

Once he clears waivers, I'm sure some team will kick the tires and give him at least a shot at a practice squad. I would say his odds of turning it around and becoming a successful NFL player are very long.
 
TDWCom29
2022-08-31 1:06:11 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Dafatone: Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.

Had the physical tools but tossing around schemes did him no favors.  He was a liability at RT and they couldn't even hide him at RG which kind of limits your roster viability.  I'm surprised Dallas or Chicago or some of the other teams with horrendous o-lines don't bring him in right away.


They did, but the news didn't break until recently so it's not like you should have known
 
SafetyThird
2022-08-31 1:44:08 PM  
I'm surprised by the move on Mullen. I thought he did a decent job in a secondary that wasn't good last year.

Leatherwood though, not surprised at all. Strange pick that struggled at the NFL level. Maybe he'll catch on somewhere but he's not good and it looks like the coaches don't see any potential for improvement.
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]
2022-08-31 2:32:06 PM  

harleyquinnical: But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius


He dont work here no more
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]
2022-08-31 2:33:35 PM  

Gubbo: And Mayock.


He dont work here no more too
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-08-31 2:38:12 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: Dafatone: Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.

Had the physical tools but tossing around schemes did him no favors.  He was a liability at RT and they couldn't even hide him at RG which kind of limits your roster viability.  I'm surprised Dallas or Chicago or some of the other teams with horrendous o-lines don't bring him in right away.


Did you have advance info on that one?
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]
2022-08-31 2:40:56 PM  

Dafatone: Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.


Calling him "porous" would be kind. He was tried across the line and they never found a gap he could fill.
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]
2022-08-31 2:43:50 PM  
I think only Tampa bay might be getting desperate enough for large warm bodies to use Leatherwood
 
Super Chronic
2022-08-31 2:47:06 PM  

Gubbo: harleyquinnical: But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius

And Mayock.

/whats with pretending that the Raiders didn't have a past before Vegas though?
//not like they're the Ravens


I don't know how things were under the Mayock-Gruden regime, but this also has the markings of a Tom Cable pick. Back in Seattle, they took a lot of dicey offensive linemen in the draft, and the story was that Cable hand-picked them to mold them into his kind of player. He had exactly one big success story, converting J.R. Sweezy from a college DT into a starting NFL OG. That earned him a reputation as some kind of offensive line wizard who could spin flax into gold, until enough bad moves -- Germain Ifedi in the first round, Rees Odhiambo in the third, Luke Joeckel for a contract where the team appeared to have bid against itself -- disabused everyone of that notion.

Cable seems to have had a similar path in Las Vegas, inheriting a really good line several years ago and turning it into a mediocre group, with just one arguable success story in Kolton Miller and a whole bunch of oddball lottery tickets.
 
knbwhite
2022-08-31 3:52:08 PM  

Super Chronic: Gubbo: harleyquinnical: But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius

And Mayock.

/whats with pretending that the Raiders didn't have a past before Vegas though?
//not like they're the Ravens

I don't know how things were under the Mayock-Gruden regime, but this also has the markings of a Tom Cable pick. Back in Seattle, they took a lot of dicey offensive linemen in the draft, and the story was that Cable hand-picked them to mold them into his kind of player. He had exactly one big success story, converting J.R. Sweezy from a college DT into a starting NFL OG. That earned him a reputation as some kind of offensive line wizard who could spin flax into gold, until enough bad moves -- Germain Ifedi in the first round, Rees Odhiambo in the third, Luke Joeckel for a contract where the team appeared to have bid against itself -- disabused everyone of that notion.

Cable seems to have had a similar path in Las Vegas, inheriting a really good line several years ago and turning it into a mediocre group, with just one arguable success story in Kolton Miller and a whole bunch of oddball lottery tickets.


I can't remember the regime, but I was thinking about Robert Gallery the other day. He was there a while, but didn't quite have the success they hoped for.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-08-31 4:17:18 PM  

knbwhite: Super Chronic: Gubbo: harleyquinnical: But do go on about how Chucky is a football genius

And Mayock.

/whats with pretending that the Raiders didn't have a past before Vegas though?
//not like they're the Ravens

I don't know how things were under the Mayock-Gruden regime, but this also has the markings of a Tom Cable pick. Back in Seattle, they took a lot of dicey offensive linemen in the draft, and the story was that Cable hand-picked them to mold them into his kind of player. He had exactly one big success story, converting J.R. Sweezy from a college DT into a starting NFL OG. That earned him a reputation as some kind of offensive line wizard who could spin flax into gold, until enough bad moves -- Germain Ifedi in the first round, Rees Odhiambo in the third, Luke Joeckel for a contract where the team appeared to have bid against itself -- disabused everyone of that notion.

Cable seems to have had a similar path in Las Vegas, inheriting a really good line several years ago and turning it into a mediocre group, with just one arguable success story in Kolton Miller and a whole bunch of oddball lottery tickets.

I can't remember the regime, but I was thinking about Robert Gallery the other day. He was there a while, but didn't quite have the success they hoped for.


I recall Robert Gallery being hyped as once in a generation, can't miss, guaranteed future hall of famer.

I no longer pay much attention to the draft.
 
Ken VeryBigLiar
2022-08-31 4:28:34 PM  

Gubbo: Ken VeryBigLiar: Dafatone: Was this guy even that bad? Never saw him play. Pro football reference put him at an 8 AV, which is solidly decent for a starter.

Had the physical tools but tossing around schemes did him no favors.  He was a liability at RT and they couldn't even hide him at RG which kind of limits your roster viability.  I'm surprised Dallas or Chicago or some of the other teams with horrendous o-lines don't bring him in right away.

Did you have advance info on that one?


Just they had the worst line in the league or darn near it so another body couldn't make them much worse.
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2022-08-31 6:02:20 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: I'm surprised Dallas or Chicago or some of the other teams with horrendous o-lines don't bring him in right away.


Chicago signed him this morning.
 
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