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(ABC News)   71% of Americans approve of labor unions, their highest level of approval since 1965   (abcnews.go.com) divider line
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2022-08-30 10:54:22 PM  
I'm curious: what percentage of Fark does? Because we definitely get a lot of anti-union people speaking up around here.
 
2022-08-30 11:13:34 PM  
Unions change the mix of employment problems, make some better and some worse.  Some are a net gain to everyone, some are a net loss.  Depends on how they're run but a good union helps workers and management.  If the business goes under, everyone loses so better to work together.
 
2022-08-31 12:05:20 AM  
They make sense in situations but become evil in others. Like most people things.
 
2022-08-31 12:11:33 AM  
Unions are sometimes good for the workers, but they're always, always good for the union leadership.
 
2022-08-31 12:26:56 AM  
the other 29% think "Unions had their place 30-40 years ago, but now they need to go away."
 
2022-08-31 12:27:04 AM  
I'm pro union; I just don't want one covering me
 
2022-08-31 2:53:52 AM  
If you are liberal, whether you think this is good news or bad news is telling.
 
2022-08-31 5:42:58 AM  
I would guess a good percent of the "favor unions" don't really favor unions but just want the benefits of a union job but would not want to pay union fees.
 
2022-08-31 7:07:20 AM  
I approve of my union and the knowledge that in 15 years I will retire with a pension and full medical benefits.
 
2022-08-31 7:10:33 AM  

Warrior Kermit: I would guess a good percent of the "favor unions" don't really favor unions but just want the benefits of a union job but would not want to pay union fees.


If that's the case, then they are pretty stupid.  My union dues are about $80 a month.  Well worth it when you consider everything they provide.
 
2022-08-31 7:14:53 AM  

InfoFreako: Unions are sometimes good for the workers, but they're always, always good for the union leadership.


Kaiser Union is a puppet of Kaiser
 
2022-08-31 8:14:59 AM  
Unions lower the information and power asymmetries that are inherent in the labor market. While not ever union has been an organization of incorruptible pure pureness, I give a hefty side-eye to union busting businesses and the disgusting pieces of offal (hello Pinkertons) that aid in union-busting.
 
2022-08-31 8:22:49 AM  

Warrior Kermit: I would guess a good percent of the "favor unions" don't really favor unions but just want the benefits of a union job but would not want to pay union fees.


My union dues are about $1,500 a year however, that came with a $10,000/year raise when I first started. Plus a raise on every August 1st in perpetuity.

That doesn't even include all the other benefits that my employer pays for. It's worth it to pay union dues.
 
2022-08-31 8:58:29 AM  

BlazeTrailer: I'm pro union; I just don't want one covering me


A union is like a HOA that might lower your taxes.

Whether that is a place you would want to live will vary greatly from person to person.
 
2022-08-31 9:19:32 AM  

BMFPitt: BlazeTrailer: I'm pro union; I just don't want one covering me

A union is like a HOA that might lower your taxes.

Whether that is a place you would want to live will vary greatly from person to person.


No, if your union is going to fark you they are in cahoots with management, in which case you were going to get farked anyway. HOAs rape you just for kicks, with a vague handwave of "property values, bro!"
 
2022-08-31 9:27:16 AM  

Fano: No, if your union is going to fark you they are in cahoots with management, in which case you were going to get farked anyway. HOAs rape you just for kicks, with a vague handwave of "property values, bro!"


I was thinking in terms of filing a grievance because someone moved a monitor from one side of their desk to the other without calling the guy whose job it was to move monitors.

Some people see that as a good thing.  I can't comprehend how that is possible.
 
2022-08-31 11:41:02 AM  
And that's why I haven't been to Starbucks in nearly a year.
 
2022-08-31 11:43:36 AM  

misanthropicsob: And that's why I haven't been to Starbucks in nearly a year.


The burnt flavor doesn't help. How do you burn tea?
 
2022-08-31 11:49:58 AM  

guinsu: misanthropicsob: And that's why I haven't been to Starbucks in nearly a year.

The burnt flavor doesn't help. How do you burn tea?


I used to go in for their refreshers.
 
2022-08-31 3:04:43 PM  

blastoh: the other 29% think "Unions had their place 30-40 years ago, but now they need to go away."


RWNJs: "We don't need unions anymore. We have labor and safety laws."
Also RWNJs: "Labor and safety laws are Jerb Killin Regalashuns, and Jerb Killin Regalashuns are teh Debbil."
 
2022-08-31 6:24:43 PM  
Yes, unions have issues. But in 99% of cases, no unions are far far worse for the worker
 
2022-08-31 7:03:23 PM  
I support the idea of unions. But while I am neither wealthy or anywhere near a C suite, I have been able to carve out a unique role in my company that serves my company and I well. I have successfully made my case for bonus compensation outside of policy based on my value to the company.

Having existed in that ecosystem for so long, I think I would be anxious about union life. I would consider joining one if the job was worth it though.

I definitely support public employee unions.

We shouldregulate unions to standardize accounting, investments, and compensation for union administrators. I would support processes that make sure political activity reflects the majority of the membership.

I understand the justification and value of compulsory participation. But it never feels right.
 
2022-08-31 10:56:03 PM  

drogg: Yes, unions have issues. But in 99% of cases, no unions are far far worse for the worker


I'm going to ask for some math on that. Everyone that claims 99% is usually not able to back that claim up.
 
2022-09-01 2:57:27 AM  

SafetyThird: drogg: Yes, unions have issues. But in 99% of cases, no unions are far far worse for the worker

I'm going to ask for some math on that. Everyone that claims 99% is usually not able to back that claim up.


You'te right in that it is a made up number.

While I think that there should be a police union, I take serious issue with their "fark you, we can do no wrong" mentality. I realize that the mentality exists outside of the union, but the union does nothing to address and counter it.

So the math is:
[(total number of unions) - (police union)]/(total number of unions) = percent of unions I'm cool with
 
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