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2022-08-28 1:03:17 PM  
Next up: Female teachers signing morality clauses, must live in approved, women-only buildings, get fired for courting the wrong sort of person.
 
2022-08-28 1:17:16 PM  
Randolph County Schools' manual details the conditions surrounding the use of corporal punishment.
It was adopted in 1989 and last updated in November 2012.

Parents must be informed before the administration of corporal punishment. It must be administered by a teacher, assistant principal or principal. It can't be done in front of other children.

It must be administered by hand or paddle, and administrators aren't allowed to slap a child in the face or head.


And how many times have children in that district been beaten when their parents were notified by voicemail?

2012.  Two-thousand-f*cking-TWELVE, the policy was reviewed, and people said, "Yeah, sure - we're OK with petty tyrant school administrators and bad teachers dragging a child into a closed door situation and beating them."

God damn you stupid f*cking hicks.
 
2022-08-28 1:31:46 PM  
It's opt out, so your child will be beaten like Rodney King unless you sign it and send it back.
 
2022-08-28 1:32:47 PM  
Corporal punishment is defined as the intentional infliction of physical pain upon the body of a student as a disciplinary measure. It's still legal in 19 states . . .

That is something I did not know.  That's seems rather insane.
 
2022-08-28 1:33:25 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Corporal punishment is defined as the intentional infliction of physical pain upon the body of a student as a disciplinary measure. It's still legal in 19 states . . .

That is something I did not know.  That's seems rather insane.


And recreational marijuana is legal in only 19 states. This means something!
 
2022-08-28 1:33:49 PM  

enry: It's opt out, so your child will be beaten like Rodney King unless you sign it and send it back.


...and they receive and file and make a note in the record.  All that will make the assistant principal sad because he won't be able to pull up that dress and paddle...woah, sorry, forgot Fark is not my personal erotica site.
 
2022-08-28 1:38:02 PM  
Is it a bare-assed spanking?

/asking for a friend who is having a seat right over there
 
2022-08-28 1:55:50 PM  
So notifying the parents of the child's offense and letting them decide the punishment when the kid gets home is not an option. Think on that for a sec.
 
2022-08-28 2:09:02 PM  
I'm sure at least one or two Farkers will be around momentarily to demonstrate survivorship bias and overall stupidity on the topic of spanking.
 
2022-08-28 2:24:52 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: So notifying the parents of the child's offense and letting them decide the punishment when the kid gets home is not an option. Think on that for a sec.


Yeah, no.  "Mayor Cleetus, Bobby-George raped another cheerleader.  What do you want to do?"  "Give him another five!"  I knew enough kids of local bigwigs that already considered it a competition to break as many rules as possible to get the high score.  Letting Daddy Dearest also get to pick the "punishment" would have resulted in other kids dying.

An infraction at school should be punished within the framework of the school.  What that punishment should not involve is assault and battery.
 
2022-08-28 2:38:11 PM  
But if YOU spank your kid, it's child abuse.
 
2022-08-28 2:38:53 PM  

phalamir: Herb Utsmelz: So notifying the parents of the child's offense and letting them decide the punishment when the kid gets home is not an option. Think on that for a sec.

Yeah, no.  "Mayor Cleetus, Bobby-George raped another cheerleader.  What do you want to do?"  "Give him another five!"  I knew enough kids of local bigwigs that already considered it a competition to break as many rules as possible to get the high score.  Letting Daddy Dearest also get to pick the "punishment" would have resulted in other kids dying.

An infraction at school should be punished within the framework of the school.  What that punishment should not involve is assault and battery.


Difficulty: Those schools wouldn't punish him for that either.
 
2022-08-28 3:27:52 PM  
"Here, Jimmy, take this pistol to school in your backpack. If the principal or teacher try to punish you physically, you know what to do..."
 
2022-08-28 3:30:35 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: phalamir: Herb Utsmelz: So notifying the parents of the child's offense and letting them decide the punishment when the kid gets home is not an option. Think on that for a sec.

Yeah, no.  "Mayor Cleetus, Bobby-George raped another cheerleader.  What do you want to do?"  "Give him another five!"  I knew enough kids of local bigwigs that already considered it a competition to break as many rules as possible to get the high score.  Letting Daddy Dearest also get to pick the "punishment" would have resulted in other kids dying.

An infraction at school should be punished within the framework of the school.  What that punishment should not involve is assault and battery.

Difficulty: Those schools wouldn't punish him for that either.


Yes, but no reason to make it the explicit policy.  We know he will get away with murdering those girls because his Daddy will call his Uncle the sheriff and make it all go away.  But that is no reason to just say the murderer gets to decide his own punishment.
 
2022-08-28 4:27:36 PM  
Oh, Oh. Opt me and mine the fuq out of that one. And go fuq off over there ChristoFascists.
 
2022-08-28 4:31:00 PM  
Setting aside the fact that it's barbaric and the fact that the people who wrote it are probably farking pedophiles who get off on just the thought of inflicting pain.... Setting it all aside... how is this in any way fair. Your creating to classes of kids those whose parents actually care about them and those that that don't. How is it possibly fair. What the fark is wrong with people,
 
2022-08-28 4:32:26 PM  
So, the default is "We're gonna beat the piss outta your kids", unless you opt out?

Oh yeah. This is gonna end well.
 
2022-08-28 4:32:42 PM  
And that's the last time you have any say in whether authority figures beat you with impunity.
 
2022-08-28 4:32:52 PM  
I went to grad school in Greensboro (just to the north of Randolph county) in the early 90s. At that point, it was still a dry county. That they still allow for corporal punishment would come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been there, it's wall to wall rednecks. Sadly, the NC Zoo is there, because otherwise it is very much a nuke it from orbit situation.
 
2022-08-28 4:33:37 PM  
Corporal punishment is defined as the intentional infliction of physical pain upon the body of a student as a disciplinary measure. It's still legal in 19 states

"American exceptionalism" is bullshiat.
 
2022-08-28 4:35:00 PM  
It's assault. Legal or not. If an adult hits a child he/she has me to fight.

You do not hit kids. Period.
 
2022-08-28 4:35:23 PM  
Can students who opt out, but still get spanked due to error then defend themselves, like with what they have on hand?
 
2022-08-28 4:35:30 PM  
Farking Bonkers.
 
2022-08-28 4:38:15 PM  
Is NC a red state? Effin' wolfpack...
 
2022-08-28 4:38:27 PM  
How many millions was Rodney's settlement?  Almost $4M.
 
2022-08-28 4:38:33 PM  
I've literally just this minute spanked one of my dogs for jumping all over her elderly grandmother (also a dog, for those not paying attention) and she's learned her lesson. Until I get out of the room in a few minutes, then it's back to business as usual.

Schools need to understand that simplistically dolling out punishments, ideologies, religion and learning expectations is SOOOO counterproductive as to be pointless. Kids who get caned because they don't give a shiat aren't about to learn to give a shiat because they got caned. Adults in workplaces MIGHT learn if they get a significant workplace warning to change their behaviour IF they give a shiat about that particular job, but it's pointless with kids.

Parents disciplining kids is MILDLY more effective because of the (hopefully unspoken) implication that parents will withdraw parental love and support if a kid farks up too much.

But nah, TFA is about schools abusing kids, it's not about effective discipllne, that "opt out" crap just proves my point.
 
2022-08-28 4:38:45 PM  
This will be an interesting powder keg to watch this upcoming year.

some theme predictions:

A kid whose parents opt-ed out will still catch a beating.
A male adult will hit a female student.
A person of a certain ethnicity will be hit by someone of a differing one
Sexual Abuse will occur
Adult will get beat up by the student
After hours retaliations
School shooting (this guess is like Free Parking)
SWATting takes on a new context
Someone ending up dead is an option for any of the above
[insert your guess here]
 
2022-08-28 4:39:32 PM  
Back in middle school I did something to end up in the vice principal's office.  I had a choice, sent home and parents called or three 'licks' from the paddle and the parents NOT notified.

I always took the licks.  Seemed like a good deal.

As an adult I realize how farked up it is to let strangers beat your child.  I mean, you know some deserve it but...
 
2022-08-28 4:39:51 PM  
Is it legal because there's are laws saying you can, or because there are not laws saying you can't?  Imagine laws specifically written to allow hurting children.  Yikes.
 
2022-08-28 4:40:43 PM  
Time to start the grifting and selling these with school logos and mascots

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2022-08-28 4:42:00 PM  
Every kid who takes a whoopin' is comin' back for the little narc who ratted him out.

And that beatin' is gonna be much worse than the teacher doled out. Guaran-farkin'-teed.
 
2022-08-28 4:45:04 PM  

Samsquantch: I went to grad school in Greensboro (just to the north of Randolph county) in the early 90s. At that point, it was still a dry county. That they still allow for corporal punishment would come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been there, it's wall to wall rednecks. Sadly, the NC Zoo is there, because otherwise it is very much a nuke it from orbit situation.


Ths zoo was wonderful. I went many times. It was spacious and designed with the animals in mind, kind of like NCs version of the San Diego zoo. It has been 15 years since I've been...
 
2022-08-28 4:46:48 PM  

veryspecial: Your creating to classes of kids those whose parents actually care about them and those that that don't.


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2022-08-28 4:47:11 PM  

The Prionic Woman: Samsquantch: I went to grad school in Greensboro (just to the north of Randolph county) in the early 90s. At that point, it was still a dry county. That they still allow for corporal punishment would come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been there, it's wall to wall rednecks. Sadly, the NC Zoo is there, because otherwise it is very much a nuke it from orbit situation.

Ths zoo was wonderful. I went many times. It was spacious and designed with the animals in mind, kind of like NCs version of the San Diego zoo. It has been 15 years since I've been...


I did my grad school internship at the NCZP. It is the only redeeming feature in Randolph county.
 
2022-08-28 4:49:35 PM  

Aquapope: Is it legal because there's are laws saying you can, or because there are not laws saying you can't?  Imagine laws specifically written to allow hurting children.  Yikes.


beyond laws, there is a certification for it, which implies there is a course to complete and someone created such a course.  Or someone is creating one now.

What the fark could the curriculum look like?  Does it read like a tennis class

backhand
forehand
two-hands
serving
follow-thru
footwork

...so that we can be assured that a person is well-trained to properly beat children and young adults.

/is their a salary bonus or compensation? A full time position?
 
2022-08-28 4:50:28 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Corporal punishment is defined as the intentional infliction of physical pain upon the body of a student as a disciplinary measure. It's still legal in 19 states . . .

That is something I did not know.  That's seems rather insane.


I didn't realize it was still legal in any states. It was the norm when I went to school though and of course I got to experience a few times, most of us did. For those not familiar you literally get your ass beat with a big wooden board in front of the entire class. Forget to bring in your homework? Three licks (that's what they called the number of times they hit you). Running in the hallway? Now the principal is going to paddle you and he's a pretty big man so you're not going to be able to sit down for a while. It's insane that this is even still a thing that is allowed anywhere. It's literally physical assault, on a child.

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2022-08-28 4:50:29 PM  
Weird, when disciplining an adult, they charge me with assault.
 
2022-08-28 4:50:47 PM  

Samsquantch: The Prionic Woman: Samsquantch: I went to grad school in Greensboro (just to the north of Randolph county) in the early 90s. At that point, it was still a dry county. That they still allow for corporal punishment would come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been there, it's wall to wall rednecks. Sadly, the NC Zoo is there, because otherwise it is very much a nuke it from orbit situation.

Ths zoo was wonderful. I went many times. It was spacious and designed with the animals in mind, kind of like NCs version of the San Diego zoo. It has been 15 years since I've been...

I did my grad school internship at the NCZP. It is the only redeeming feature in Randolph county.


animals can be relocated. rednecks cannot.

Just sayin...
 
2022-08-28 4:57:16 PM  
Can't wait to see that take from a guy on Facebook who is currently unemployed and on house arrest for his 7th DUI tell us he was spanked and turned out just fine.
 
2022-08-28 4:57:25 PM  
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2022-08-28 5:00:33 PM  
I'm not against spanking. I'm not really for it either.

But I'm 1000% against allowing adults that aren't the parents having any opportunity to put their hands on children in any way.

Kids should be taught that adults have no reason to put their hands on you.
People have proven they simply can't be trusted.
 
2022-08-28 5:00:59 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: So, the default is "We're gonna beat the piss outta your kids", unless you opt out?

Oh yeah. This is gonna end well.


In a state with a gun fetish.  Teachers should be absolutely certain which kids they beat up and which they give a pass.  Let me take a wild guess, poor kids whose parents didn't know about this policy because they work four gig jobs, and not one child of a rich parent gets beaten.
Oh, and juries should refuse to convict parents who returned the kind favor to the educator who beat their kid.
But you can't teach about the civil war, LGBTQ issues, evolution, or MLK, because that would turn the kids into criminals and pedopholes.
 
2022-08-28 5:01:52 PM  

Samsquantch: The Prionic Woman: Samsquantch: I went to grad school in Greensboro (just to the north of Randolph county) in the early 90s. At that point, it was still a dry county. That they still allow for corporal punishment would come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been there, it's wall to wall rednecks. Sadly, the NC Zoo is there, because otherwise it is very much a nuke it from orbit situation.

Ths zoo was wonderful. I went many times. It was spacious and designed with the animals in mind, kind of like NCs version of the San Diego zoo. It has been 15 years since I've been...

I did my grad school internship at the NCZP. It is the only redeeming feature in Randolph county.


Won't argue with you. Also went to school in the area - in the 80s. Asheboro was a pretty town. North Carolina had a progessive heritage. Jesse Helms was reviled at a certain point in time. We thought we could do better
 
2022-08-28 5:02:00 PM  
Opt out? Is he the one who designed the check boxes for bunkie?

I've told this story before.

Back in JH in the mid 60s the Vice Principal smacked my knuckles with a ruler. I told my mom. She had some choice words with him. They left me alone after that.
 
2022-08-28 5:02:03 PM  

Hyjamon: Time to start the grifting and selling these with school logos and mascots

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My elementary school had one, you got to sign it after they used it on you. It had my signature on it. It also had my brother's with about a dozen check marks after it.
 
2022-08-28 5:06:55 PM  
Look, the whippings is supposed to be equitably distributed. We can't help it if the Black kids misbehave more than the white kids. I mean, it's a cultural issue...
 
2022-08-28 5:09:15 PM  

jchic: Back in middle school I did something to end up in the vice principal's office.  I had a choice, sent home and parents called or three 'licks' from the paddle and the parents NOT notified.

I always took the licks.  Seemed like a good deal.

As an adult I realize how farked up it is to let strangers beat your child.  I mean, you know some deserve it but...


I was rapped on the knuckles with a ruler. Mom called the school. They never touched me again. That's a better deal to me.
 
2022-08-28 5:16:54 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I'm not against spanking. I'm not really for it either.

But I'm 1000% against allowing adults that aren't the parents having any opportunity to put their hands on children in any way.

Kids should be taught that adults have no reason to put their hands on you.
People have proven they simply can't be trusted.


how long until a video of such an incident makes it to the interwebs?

30% - they confiscated one phone from the student but not the other
70% - admins film it and accidentally post to social media
 
2022-08-28 5:21:28 PM  
I have never understood the willingness to let groomers and indoctrinators beat your kid's ass with a stick, but that's why I'm not a conservative.
 
2022-08-28 5:22:29 PM  
What's the over\under on how long it will take before there's an outbreak of creepy male teachers using it as an excuse to slap teenage girls' asses?
 
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