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(The Hill)   He's not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens   (thehill.com) divider line
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2022-08-22 9:10:30 PM  
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2022-08-22 9:20:05 PM  
Ok, but have you heard some of The People who elect our congress critters lately? Talk about a doughnut shy of a dozen
 
2022-08-22 9:21:34 PM  
In Congress, where legislation is drafted, debated and enacted, clear and concise definitions are of paramount importance.

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2022-08-22 9:21:59 PM  
In Congress, where legislation is drafted

...are all morons.
 
2022-08-22 9:28:58 PM  
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2022-08-22 9:29:40 PM  
Congress


The same government body where it's debated whether a fertilized embryo is a person.
 
2022-08-22 9:57:58 PM  
It's not farking aliens.
 
2022-08-22 10:11:58 PM  
I mean, if we knew what they were they'd just be IFOs.
 
2022-08-22 10:19:24 PM  

Close2TheEdge: In Congress, where legislation is drafted, debated and enacted, clear and concise definitions are of paramount importance.

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There has never been a better time to use that meme in the entire existence of Fark.
 
2022-08-23 12:42:20 AM  
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2022-08-23 1:20:41 AM  
I'm calling undiscovered earth creatures that live in the upper atmosphere

Still nuts, but feels less nuts
 
2022-08-23 1:29:15 AM  
The aliens are hiding in plain sight. In Congress, of course. You have always known that, haven't you?
 
2022-08-23 1:32:57 AM  
Some people on reddit are taking this REALLY seriously. As if some language by congress was definitive proof, because people in congress clearly are 'in the know' and didn't immediately spill the beans for short term political gain.
 
2022-08-23 1:33:27 AM  
Unidentified Flying Interstellar Astronauts

/got nothing
 
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2022-08-23 1:36:24 AM  
Look over there!, said Congress.
 
2022-08-23 1:41:44 AM  
I want to believe , But I can't ..
 
2022-08-23 1:47:17 AM  
The vast distances between stars makes alien visitation a near-impossibility.

They're obviously from the future, or a parallel dimension.
 
2022-08-23 1:59:50 AM  
Because they were all built by meerkats.
I mean, just look at them. Could you ever trust these creatures?
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2022-08-23 1:59:52 AM  
I don't know what they are but I'd like to.
 
2022-08-23 2:05:57 AM  
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2022-08-23 2:07:57 AM  
The explosive implication that some UFOs have non-human origins.

Swamp gas is non-human in origin.
 
2022-08-23 2:08:45 AM  
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2022-08-23 2:14:55 AM  
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2022-08-23 2:32:51 AM  
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2022-08-23 2:35:56 AM  
Horseshiat.

These members of Congress need a thorough pummeling with

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2022-08-23 2:37:51 AM  

Ghastly: It's not farking aliens.


That would explain why they crashed outside Roswell.

Roadhead gone wrong.
 
2022-08-23 2:41:54 AM  
This is a great prompt for short stories about briefings with incoming and outgoing presidential administrations in regards to alien activity on Earth.  Sure it's been done too many times before, but a fresh spin might be worth a few keystrokes.
 
2022-08-23 2:43:21 AM  
Not being human in origin doesn't mean it's aliens either. Unidentified or unexplained atmospheric phenomena would also fall under that banner. Ball lightning, for instance.
 
2022-08-23 2:47:48 AM  

NobleHam: Not being human in origin doesn't mean it's aliens either. Unidentified or unexplained atmospheric phenomena would also fall under that banner. Ball lightning, for instance.


Ball lightning is freaky.  That is all.
 
2022-08-23 2:55:36 AM  
Expanding the definition to include objects in space and under the oceans significantly broadens the scope of a muscular new office tasked by Congress with investigating UFOs.

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2022-08-23 2:55:41 AM  
I can only imagine if the knowledge of aliens was so completed in the government that it reached congressional committees, it would all be something that the president was briefed under. I can also only imagine that Donald Trump would have immediately shouted this out to the world, he wouldn't have held that in for even 5 or 6 months. At some point, during all the shenanigans, he would have started spilling the beans

That a bunch of committee members have access to these details seems quite ridiculous
 
2022-08-23 2:56:44 AM  

Ghastly: It's not farking aliens.


It will be if Tumblr users get ahold of them...
 
2022-08-23 3:15:52 AM  
Thanks, assholes. We've had proof since WW2. Now get off your ass, and do something.
 
2022-08-23 3:24:50 AM  

KodosZardoz: Because they were all built by meerkats.
I mean, just look at them. Could you ever trust these creatures?
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They are the best!  I had a pet Ferret and he was so fun.
 
2022-08-23 3:30:22 AM  
Not he same animal, but both lanky and alert and can be fun.
A Muskrat in Hawaii not the same at all.

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2022-08-23 3:35:56 AM  
Meh, maybe. It's a really REALLY big Universe. I could see some visitors checking us out, having technology eons ahead of ours.  It's a nice thought, anyway.
 
2022-08-23 3:54:20 AM  

Chromium_One: NobleHam: Not being human in origin doesn't mean it's aliens either. Unidentified or unexplained atmospheric phenomena would also fall under that banner. Ball lightning, for instance.

Ball lightning is freaky.  That is all.


Ball lightning has about as much proof as aliens do.
 
2022-08-23 4:12:49 AM  
The latest batch is probably a new hypersonic drone technology utilizing a plasma screen with a field effect propulsion system that has a good amount of autonomic capability. In other words, it's ours. By design our government hides these things by encouraging and steering the narrative about UAPs with a continuous stream of disinformation. By steering the narrative into the woo-woo UFO genre it hits a dead end. They've been doing this for over 75 years and are damn good at it now.
 
2022-08-23 4:16:57 AM  
It going from "Debunk, and belittle at all costs" to "Hey, wtf is going on..?" as the official stance is at least interesting.

We can poke fun at the elected officials intelligence - but the interviews from people trusted to fly 100s of millions of dollars in equipment going faster than the speed of sound...

IDK what they are seeing, but it is evidently interesting enough to throw money at - so, we'll see if anything comes of it all.
 
2022-08-23 4:18:28 AM  

grumpfuff: Ball lightning has about as much proof as aliens do.


Saying not much and what there is, is kinda sketchy?  Still more plausible than aliens.
 
2022-08-23 4:32:46 AM  

Chromium_One: grumpfuff: Ball lightning has about as much proof as aliens do.

Saying not much and what there is, is kinda sketchy?  Still more plausible than aliens.


Huh. The second half of my comment disappeared.

Either way, I'm tired of people citing ball lightning for anything from UFOs to "spirit orbs" in buildings, and acting like it's some scientific certainty. It's the "scientist" version of "aliensdidit" or "ghostsdidit."

It's all garbage.
 
2022-08-23 5:01:12 AM  

a particular individual: The vast distances between stars makes alien visitation a near-impossibility.

They're obviously from the future, or a parallel dimension.


Or.... From the past?

A major past civilisation - not necessarily humans - did the Big Exponential and cleaned up after themselves to make it look like they never expanded past the Stone Age, to give another civilisation a chance to transcend with their technology and join them in a new state of being. These are their monitors, which is why they are only just appearing now, to prepare humans for possibilities we haven't imagined by opening our minds just a crack.

Of course, that's completely lost on Congress because their brains had already fallen out
 
2022-08-23 5:15:48 AM  
Cingress: Our only option is respond  to this alien threat isby giving even more money to Defense contractors. They can come up with more ways to detect and defend against them but still not tell us what they are.
 
2022-08-23 5:26:36 AM  

makerofbadjokes: It going from "Debunk, and belittle at all costs" to "Hey, wtf is going on..?" as the official stance is at least interesting.

We can poke fun at the elected officials intelligence - but the interviews from people trusted to fly 100s of millions of dollars in equipment going faster than the speed of sound...

IDK what they are seeing, but it is evidently interesting enough to throw money at - so, we'll see if anything comes of it all.


I am a Navy veteran. I was an AT, aviation electronics technician, worked on the navigation and weapons systems of Navy A7-E.

1. Navy pilots, while some of the most highly skilled in the world, are still just people. Being a pilot does not instill some supernatural ability of observation or knowledge in physics. We would shack our heads daily at how stupid and how little some of our piolts knew about how their aircraft worked.

2. Piolts trust their instruments too much, for good reason, I was the guy that would have to troubleshoot and repair things like targeting radar/computer, gyro, compass, air speed indicators etc. I have had pilots report an adversary fighter aircraft moving mach 7, aircraft changing position 3nm instantly, aircraft making instant elevation changes of 25,000ft, aircraft that were " too fast" to get a radar lock on. Etc,etc. None of these things actually happened, they were all instrument malfunctions I had to repair.

3. While you are busy stroking off pilots know the following is true,

I worked with a pilot that was a young earth creationist,

While doing turnaround recovery of one of our planes I found a Marijuana rough snubbed out on the cockpit radio,

One of our pilots managed to shoot his own aircraft with his Vulcan rotorary cannon and did not know it. I found three 20mm holes in the port wing during turnaround inspection, he was the only one on the range with live guns during the exercise. Damn lucky they didn't hit the fuel tank or hydraulics.
 
2022-08-23 5:39:28 AM  

makerofbadjokes: It going from "Debunk, and belittle at all costs" to "Hey, wtf is going on..?" as the official stance is at least interesting.

We can poke fun at the elected officials intelligence - but the interviews from people trusted to fly 100s of millions of dollars in equipment going faster than the speed of sound...

IDK what they are seeing, but it is evidently interesting enough to throw money at - so, we'll see if anything comes of it all.


Well, dang. The government is spending money on it, they hate spending money. I am convinced.
 
2022-08-23 6:12:15 AM  
We picked up the wreckage from Roswell and took it to Area 51. The Russians probably found some themselves. The current UFO's are of "alien origin", and we reverse engineered it to make our own. But the origins remain the same.
 
2022-08-23 6:26:23 AM  

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2022-08-23 6:40:28 AM  
Oh boy...  I've been itching to have a conversation about UFOs/UAP for a few days now.  I watched a couple of episodes of that History channel series with Luis Elizondo and it really bothered me.  Sure, he's assembled a team of reputable witnesses, military and government officials, etc.  But you know who wasn't on that team?  Physicists, engineers, scientists, mathematicians, etc.  It was also really clear that Elizondo loves being in front of the camera.

While it's clear that these military sensor systems picked up something, I have yet to see anyone take a mathematical approach to to analyzing the data.  How large was the object?  What was its' altitude?  What was the observer's speed and direction relative to the UFO/UAP?  What was the actual speed of the observed object?

If the object is behaving in a jerky manner - changing directions suddenly and stopping on a dime - what speed was required to do that?  What kind of energy dissipation would be required to do that?  What G forces were involved?  Do we know of any biological organisms that could withstand those kinds of G forces?  What would the forces on the UFO/UAP have been?  Do engineers know of any materials that can withstand those kinds of forces?  What about heat?  How much air friction would the surface of this UFO/UAP endure?  What would be the temperatures involved?  Do engineers know of any materials that could withstand that kind of heat?  What about noise?  Assuming that the UFO/UAP made no noise of its own, what would the volume of displaced air have been?  How much noise would be created by that air displacement?  Depending on the amount of noise generated, is it realistic to assume that the noise was not heard at nearby population centers?  They say these objects traveled at mach 5 - at sea level!  The Blackbird SR-71 topped out at mach 3 at much higher altitudes.

They say these objects can travel underwater at about four times the speed of the fastest US submarine.  I approximate that's about 200 mph.  What would be the friction, heat and forces generated by that kind of underwater speed?  What about noise?  What would the effects at the water's surface look like for such an object?  What about the effects on ocean wildlife and the environment at those kinds of speeds?

None of these questions were addressed in any reasonable way in Elizondo's show.

I'm not an engineer, but I have guesses.  I don't believe that any known man-made materials can withstand those kinds of g-forces or temperatures.  Or they would make so much noise (just from the air displacement alone) that it would be impossible to hide them.  We know that air friction is a serious limitation on the speed of our best engineered aircraft.  For something to be moving at mach 5 at sea level - it would burn up.  No materials could withstand that.  Not only are these objects NOT man made, they're not made by aliens either.  Aliens would have to obey the same laws of physics, engineering and materials science that we do.

So I have two guesses as to what these objects are:

1.    They are illusions.  Think of a cat chasing a laser pointer dot.  The "object" (the dot) moves incredibly quickly.  It stops on a dime.  The cats paw at the very real looking object but the dot simply disappears or outruns the cat.  So what created the illusion?  Is this an illusion created by a natural phenomenon or something that was deliberately created?  If it was deliberate, who created it?

2.    If it's an actual object, it's not any object as human science knows it.  This lends some credibility to the idea of an inter-dimensional effect - again, either natural or created by an intelligence that we cannot as yet comprehend.  If these are actual objects created and operated by intelligent beings, then they would have to be able to manipulate time and/or the physical mass of these objects.  This would be akin to Star Trek's inertial dampener technology.  Or they could be moving through normal space with objects of normal materials and mass, but at a different rate of time.  They would be manipulating time in a way similar to the way we skip through a DVD or video tape looking for a particular scene.

Perhaps it's an illusion created by a natural phenomenon - perhaps it's some kind of interaction between our known four dimensions and as-yet-unknown higher parallel dimensions.  Who knows?  Either way, I'm more inclined to think that not only are these objects not made by humans - they're not made by aliens (from our 4D universe) either.
 
2022-08-23 6:52:03 AM  

a particular individual: The vast distances between stars makes alien visitation a near-impossibility.

They're obviously from the future, or a parallel dimension.


They're from another Earth-like planet that shares our orbit, but is on the opposite side of the Sun so we can never see it.

I seem to recall that was the plot of an SF story that was published before we started sending probes out into the solar system.
 
2022-08-23 6:57:17 AM  
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