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(CNN)   Yes, dogs cry actual tears of joy when reunited with owners after a long separation. Scientists apparently need to spend money studying this instead of, you know, asking any dog owner or adopting their own pet   (cnn.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Tears, Dog, tears of happiness, Dog health, Takefumi Kikusui, Puppy, dog's eyes, Schirmer's test  
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2022-08-22 2:23:44 PM  
Dog love is serious business! They ain't f*cking around!
 
2022-08-22 2:26:08 PM  
Subby, the number of things "everyone knows are true" that are dead wrong is near infinite.  If you don't like knowledge, the time machine back to the pre-Sumerian era is thataway.
 
2022-08-22 2:26:57 PM  
Subby's just jealous those scientists are basically getting paid to pet the dog
 
2022-08-22 2:39:32 PM  
When I came back from my last vacation, my dog moped around the house for the entire first day I was back because it was back to me and not the nice neighbor lady who spoiled him rotten with treats.
 
2022-08-22 2:45:03 PM  
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2022-08-22 2:54:05 PM  
Meanwhile...

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2022-08-22 3:00:37 PM  

gopher321: Meanwhile...

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Hahaa, funny story. I had surgery recently - our dog IMMEDIATELY knew that I was "injured" and sniffed my incisions before even saying hi to me. Guarded me for weeks.

The cats did not give two sh*ts and were visibly offended that I was unwilling to let them sit on me.
 
2022-08-22 6:22:02 PM  
Subby seems not to understand how science works.
 
2022-08-22 6:22:14 PM  
That's pee, Subby.
 
2022-08-22 6:23:16 PM  

educated: gopher321: Meanwhile...

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Hahaa, funny story. I had surgery recently - our dog IMMEDIATELY knew that I was "injured" and sniffed my incisions before even saying hi to me. Guarded me for weeks.

The cats did not give two sh*ts and were visibly offended that I was unwilling to let them sit on me.


You smelled like you came from the vet. The dog assumed your nuts had just been cut off.
 
2022-08-22 6:23:36 PM  
It involved a paper strip placed inside the eyelids of the dogs for a minute before and after they were reunited with their owners following five to seven hours of separation.


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2022-08-22 6:25:38 PM  

phalamir: Subby, the number of things "everyone knows are true" that are dead wrong is near infinite.  If you don't like knowledge, the time machine back to the pre-Sumerian era is thataway.


I was teaching social studies today, and the text mentioned a time machine in terms of us not knowing one hundred percent of the past. I asked the class that if anyone invents the time machine to please show up in the seconds.
 
2022-08-22 6:28:53 PM  
Many people (including much of the law) still believe that dogs are purely instinctual animals, rather than thinking, feeling beings that while not on-par with Humans, are intelligent and share most of our characteristics as sapient people.  Having concrete data on this is helpful going forward, especially when it comes to setting public policy.  As it stands, in many places, a dog that bites a person will be ordered to be put down regardless of context.

The more proof of sapience the better.
 
2022-08-22 6:31:34 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: phalamir: Subby, the number of things "everyone knows are true" that are dead wrong is near infinite.  If you don't like knowledge, the time machine back to the pre-Sumerian era is thataway.

I was teaching social studies today, and the text mentioned a time machine in terms of us not knowing one hundred percent of the past. I asked the class that if anyone invents the time machine to please show up in the seconds.


Not a valid test.  It only works if one of them does it.  If someone does it fifty years after the last one of your studentsdies, you haven't proven anything.  A much better one was Stephen Hawking making a public declaration about a particular time and place.  He's famous enough that his invitation will reverberate through the ages.
 
2022-08-22 6:34:34 PM  
So dogs that teared up were seen as more human and protected by the humans, so they survived to reproduce more often, so now most dogs tear up when they see their humans.
 
2022-08-22 6:35:59 PM  

educated: Dog love is serious business! They ain't f*cking around!


A dog's love is very different from that of a square.
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2022-08-22 6:36:55 PM  
We need tof ire any tenured profesor who says, "Now we know..." or "Finally we can say that..." when it comes to nonhuman emotions. They are always so farking fictional, it's insulting to their readers. We all know these thigns already. Their inquiries are purely methodologically interesting, or purely epistemological, but they say the STUPIDEST shyte about nonhumans and cognition and emotion. Jesus, what garbage. We should be funding important research, not psychopaths who cannot identify emotional activity in nonhumans. Extra extra - crow use tools to hook things NO FARKING KIDDING DIPSHIAT, THEY BUILD NESTS YOU COCKDUMBING farker.
 
2022-08-22 6:41:36 PM  

educated: gopher321: Meanwhile...

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Hahaa, funny story. I had surgery recently - our dog IMMEDIATELY knew that I was "injured" and sniffed my incisions before even saying hi to me. Guarded me for weeks.

The cats did not give two sh*ts and were visibly offended that I was unwilling to let them sit on me.


Dog's know you are hurt, and happy to see you alive.

Cat's are wondering why you haven't crawled into a hole to die yet, so you don't attract scavengers and predators.

Don't be mad at nature. Hell, maybe the cats just assume you don't want to get on the cart yet.
 
2022-08-22 6:42:07 PM  
Joy, that emotion that a dog has no concept of, like all emotions, cus emotions are human societal constructs.

Dogs that can correctly key their behavior to the rhe thing that gives it food, were the dogs that got to be studied by Japanese scientists. That's all.

Maybe we can teach people to not consider dog ownership with all the responsibility of picking a lamp, and then we dont have to try and overlay human emotions onto them, to allay how needlessly brutal we are to them (or cats)
 
2022-08-22 6:51:25 PM  

phalamir: hoodiowithtudio: phalamir: Subby, the number of things "everyone knows are true" that are dead wrong is near infinite.  If you don't like knowledge, the time machine back to the pre-Sumerian era is thataway.

I was teaching social studies today, and the text mentioned a time machine in terms of us not knowing one hundred percent of the past. I asked the class that if anyone invents the time machine to please show up in the seconds.

Not a valid test.  It only works if one of them does it.  If someone does it fifty years after the last one of your studentsdies, you haven't proven anything.  A much better one was Stephen Hawking making a public declaration about a particular time and place.  He's famous enough that his invitation will reverberate through the ages.


I meant in ten seconds.
 
2022-08-22 6:53:20 PM  
Takefumi Kikusui, a professor at the Laboratory of Human-Animal Interaction and Reciprocity at Azabu University in Japan, decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.

Not to completely...err...dogpile subby, but I'm not sure they bothered to read the article they submitted. This study resulted from observations made by the scientist with his own dog.
 
2022-08-22 6:55:32 PM  

Iamos: Takefumi Kikusui, a professor at the Laboratory of Human-Animal Interaction and Reciprocity at Azabu University in Japan, decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.

Not to completely...err...dogpile subby, but I'm not sure they bothered to read the article they submitted. This study resulted from observations made by the scientist with his own dog.


Well, they had to get a dig in about emotionless scientists, so reading wasn't  priority.
 
2022-08-22 6:55:58 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: We need tof ire any tenured profesor who says, "Now we know..." or "Finally we can say that..." when it comes to nonhuman emotions. They are always so farking fictional, it's insulting to their readers. We all know these thigns already. Their inquiries are purely methodologically interesting, or purely epistemological, but they say the STUPIDEST shyte about nonhumans and cognition and emotion. Jesus, what garbage. We should be funding important research, not psychopaths who cannot identify emotional activity in nonhumans. Extra extra - crow use tools to hook things NO FARKING KIDDING DIPSHIAT, THEY BUILD NESTS YOU COCKDUMBING farker.


Well, this tenured professor now knows to exclude Bennie Crabtree from reviewing any of his papers or grants and can finally say that Mr. Crabtree may want to consider switching to decaf coffee (pending further confirmatory study, of course).
 
2022-08-22 6:57:59 PM  

OMG_ItAteEveryThing: Iamos: Takefumi Kikusui, a professor at the Laboratory of Human-Animal Interaction and Reciprocity at Azabu University in Japan, decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.

Not to completely...err...dogpile subby, but I'm not sure they bothered to read the article they submitted. This study resulted from observations made by the scientist with his own dog.

Well, they had to get a dig in about emotionless scientists, so reading wasn't  priority.


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2022-08-22 7:00:33 PM  

KB202: So dogs that teared up were seen as more human and protected by the humans, so they survived to reproduce more often, so now most dogs tear up when they see their humans.


There are wild canids that do the same.  Non-domestic wild canids cry over lost loved ones.  Wind canids which have the domestication gene do the same over Humans.  It's not just dogs bred in domestication - it's the entire Canidae family.  The most obvious examples are foxes, but they aren't unique.

And now, I post link to cute foxes.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb3KY97ICfIkDJY_p6d7yig
 
2022-08-22 7:02:36 PM  

Iamos: OMG_ItAteEveryThing: Iamos: Takefumi Kikusui, a professor at the Laboratory of Human-Animal Interaction and Reciprocity at Azabu University in Japan, decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.

Not to completely...err...dogpile subby, but I'm not sure they bothered to read the article they submitted. This study resulted from observations made by the scientist with his own dog.

Well, they had to get a dig in about emotionless scientists, so reading wasn't  priority.

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"My dog absolutely feels phlegmatic, what are you talking about braaAAAAAGGH!!!"
 
2022-08-22 7:06:29 PM  

Gubbo: When I came back from my last vacation, my dog moped around the house for the entire first day I was back because it was back to me and not the nice neighbor lady who spoiled him rotten with treats.


Generally, my wife's son takes care of the dogs when we are gone, although the meals become irregular and no treats. Kent is not good at schedules and he forgets things if you don't write them down. Naturally, the dogs are overjoyed when my wife gets back. I feed them, walk them, keep their water dishes clean and full, give them skritches, belly rubs and let them in and out about 15 times a day; but she has the good treats!
 
2022-08-22 7:10:32 PM  
"HI, can i have a grant to watch very happy dogs?"
"Sure here you go"
"Holy shiat, that worked, Best year ever, and i get credits for it"
 
2022-08-22 7:29:14 PM  

MythDragon: educated: Dog love is serious business! They ain't f*cking around!

A dog's love is very different from that of a square.
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There are nine thousand seven hundred and twenty six listings for, Upgrayedd.
 
2022-08-22 7:30:19 PM  
So, this is what it sounds like when dogs cry.
 
2022-08-22 7:33:57 PM  
The difference between anecdote and data is important, there, subby.
 
2022-08-22 7:40:40 PM  
Sorta CSB: My primary job is done remotely, and since getting divorced about two years ago one of the ways I make extra money is by dogsitting friends and friends of friends, and doing my regular gig while I'm there...anyway, my favorite part of the whole thing is the reaction of the dogs when their humans get home. Unadulterated pure joy-it makes me feel like I did as a kid
 
2022-08-22 7:41:18 PM  
I would hypothesize that they do cry for negative emotions too.  We recently got a new puppy and knew our two older pups wouldn't be super happy.  We have done everything to make sure it's an easy transition, to give them space from her, and to make sure they get as much or more love and attention as they did before, both with her present, and on their own.  Our older girl is sort of my dog.  She stays up late if I stay up late, and cuddles with me on the couch virtually every night.  She is also very comfortable making eye contact with me and will seek it out.  For the first two days after we got the new pup she was unhappy and hid in the bathroom.  I went to check on her and sit with her there.  I gave her some pets and she would allow it, but she wouldn't look at me.  When I finally did get some eye contact for a moment her eyes were very welled up.  It broke my heart.

She's back on my side now getting lots of attention and cuddling again now and all is right in the world.
 
2022-08-22 7:44:14 PM  
My dog goes out and slaughters a deer for me when I've been gone too long, but whatever makes you all happy.
I can never leave her alone.  Dogs can't tell time.

Bennie Crabtree: We need tof ire any tenured profesor who says, "Now we know..." or "Finally we can say that..." when it comes to nonhuman emotions. They are always so farking fictional, it's insulting to their readers. We all know these thigns already. Their inquiries are purely methodologically interesting, or purely epistemological, but they say the STUPIDEST shyte about nonhumans and cognition and emotion. Jesus, what garbage. We should be funding important research, not psychopaths who cannot identify emotional activity in nonhumans. Extra extra - crow use tools to hook things NO FARKING KIDDING DIPSHIAT, THEY BUILD NESTS YOU COCKDUMBING farker.


That's what  I've always thought too.  I  remember the National Geographic where they found out that great apes use tools.  That's it then.  We're on the way out.  I saw Planet of the Apes.

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I've brought two of my pets back from the dead with careful listening.
 
2022-08-22 7:45:26 PM  
My dog pees when I come home. That's sort of like crying, right?
 
2022-08-22 7:45:26 PM  

Gubbo: When I came back from my last vacation, my dog moped around the house for the entire first day I was back because it was back to me and not the nice neighbor lady who spoiled him rotten with treats.


Haha sorry man, but they still love you.
In my side hustle I've seen that too, mainly because my clients are mostly in their 70-80s and can't walk/play with them as much as I can at half that age
 
2022-08-22 8:11:02 PM  

Nobody in Peculiar: My dog pees when I come home. That's sort of like crying, right?


Only if you have a narrow urethra.
/I'll tell you what.
 
2022-08-22 8:25:08 PM  
I have no idea if what I was told when I was 7 or 8 was true, but I remember  being told that dogs were only attached to you because you fed them, and beyond that they didn't have actual attachments to people or things the way we do. "Science says it's all instinct and genetic programming, not any  real emotion because  only humans have real emotions".

I didn't have a dog when I was a kid, so I didn't really think about it. But having owned dogs as an adult I can't believe that anyone involved with science could have believed that pets did not feel similar emotions of joy, grief and companionship (if you don't want to call it friendship) in a very similar manner to what people feel.
 
2022-08-22 8:36:12 PM  
We got our dogs back today after about a week away (for them, we've been doing renovations). They were very happy to see us again, but I can tell the younger one misses having a fenced-in backyard to be free in. I mean, I'd also like a fenced yard, I get it.

/she's crashed on the other couch in protest currently
//older guy is on my lap where he loves it
 
2022-08-22 8:43:18 PM  

Steve Zodiac: I have no idea if what I was told when I was 7 or 8 was true, but I remember  being told that dogs were only attached to you because you fed them, and beyond that they didn't have actual attachments to people or things the way we do. "Science says it's all instinct and genetic programming, not any  real emotion because  only humans have real emotions".

I didn't have a dog when I was a kid, so I didn't really think about it. But having owned dogs as an adult I can't believe that anyone involved with science could have believed that pets did not feel similar emotions of joy, grief and companionship (if you don't want to call it friendship) in a very similar manner to what people feel.


No one has real emotions and the scientists didn't tell you because they didn't want to deal with the reaction.

We're all a bunch of bags of organic polymers, water and electrolytes consuming energy on a rock.
 
2022-08-22 9:07:47 PM  
Number of years ago my aunt and uncle bought a house in the southwest. They eventually retired there but used it as a vacation home for a few years. Went down with my parents and second or third day there, a dog shows up in the backyard. I eventually remembered seeing a sign about a missing dog (on every telephone pole for 3 miles), so we called the number and they came right over. Wasn't close enough to see who was crying, but the woman and the dog both were screaming and bouncing all over the yard for 5 minutes.
 
2022-08-22 9:12:09 PM  

Iamos: decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.


Well, yeah; puppies have sharp teeth and poor motor control!
 
2022-08-22 9:15:22 PM  

LoneVVolf: Iamos: decided to investigate dog tears after watching one of his two standard poodles when she had puppies six years ago. He noticed that her eyes got teary as she nursed her puppies.

Well, yeah; puppies have sharp teeth and poor motor control!


Username checks out?
 
2022-08-22 9:45:40 PM  
I had a Basset Hound.  She'd lose her mind when I'd come home, even if it was coming home from checking the mailbox at the end of the driveway.
 
2022-08-22 10:25:40 PM  
Mine was kidnapped.
We both cried when we met up again
 
2022-08-23 12:33:06 AM  
Dog passes out from overwhelming joy | #CaseyTheDog
Youtube rp03AorAWLY
 
2022-08-23 12:34:44 AM  

Nobody in Peculiar: My dog pees when I come home. That's sort of like crying, right?


I pee when my dog comes home. I have to mark my recliner otherwise she steals my seat.
 
2022-08-23 1:13:41 AM  

OMG_ItAteEveryThing: Joy, that emotion that a dog has no concept of, like all emotions, cus emotions are human societal constructs.

Dogs that can correctly key their behavior to the rhe thing that gives it food, were the dogs that got to be studied by Japanese scientists. That's all.

Maybe we can teach people to not consider dog ownership with all the responsibility of picking a lamp, and then we dont have to try and overlay human emotions onto them, to allay how needlessly brutal we are to them (or cats)


Pro tip:  humans are animals.
 
2022-08-23 2:17:09 AM  
I recently returned from a two week roadtrip, the family dog went apeshiat, whining and spinning around in circles in happiness.  Even the cats were super affectionate and they were being fed while I was away.
 
2022-08-23 2:30:23 AM  

Theeng: I recently returned from a two week roadtrip, the family dog went apeshiat, whining and spinning around in circles in happiness.  Even the cats were super affectionate and they were being fed while I was away.


Animals, particularly domesticated animals, do value your companionship, even if they're not hungry. They love the scritches, and the rubs, and cozying up with you. Most mammals do enjoy companionship, they feel safer if there's another mammal they trust that's near them. At the base level of needs, humans, dogs, and cats really want the same things: They want to feel safe, they want to not be hungry, and they want companionship. They develop trust over time, and if you're not there, they get worried.

Of course the dog is happy to see you when you get home, and the cat. Even if they're not hungry, they still want you to be home. When you get home late, and the cat or dog is laying in front of the door waiting for you, they're not necessarily laying there because they're hungry. They're laying there because they miss you; they miss your companionship. There can still be half a bowl of kibble left, and they don't want it. You can put fresh wet food down for the cat, and they don't care; they just want some loving.
 
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