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(Patch)   What happens when you offer college football players free Door Dash deliveries? $450,000 later Rutgers has the answer   (patch.com) divider line
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718 clicks; posted to Sports » on 19 Aug 2022 at 8:46 PM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-19 7:14:02 PM  
#At the same time, in the past two years (2021 and 2020), Rutgers Athletics operated at a $73 million deficit."

Yeah, I don't think that $0.45 million is really the issue.
 
2022-08-19 8:46:27 PM  
Won't have to worry about operating at a loss soon.
 
2022-08-19 8:50:21 PM  
"Many of our student-athletes come from economically challenged backgrounds and in addition to how difficult it was to meet their nutritional needs with COVID, this was the best way to look out for our student-athletes' welfare," continued Rutgers.

Uh-huh.  And did you do that for every student, who presumably also have nutritional needs?

A review of receipts found that football players placed lavish orders from Outback Steakhouse and Red Lobster, plus pizza, tacos, chicken wings and Chinese food, oftentimes from restaurants near their hometowns across the U.S. - not near the Rutgers campus.  "In one case, a player placed orders a thousand miles apart on the same day, in Florida and New York - and then continued to make orders in Florida for two more days," the Bergen Record found.

Because when I think of optimal athletic nutrition, I think pizza, tacos and whatever bullshiat that kid ordered from his favorite greasy spoon in Florida to be delivered to f*cking New Jersey.
 
2022-08-19 9:04:20 PM  
So was this kid "ordering" from his hometown and one of his friends making the "delivery" as a Door Dash person?
Or is that "person"?
 
2022-08-19 9:13:06 PM  
Do the words "lack of institutional control" have any meaning here? *Someone* at the school should have been monitoring things and been raising questions.
 
2022-08-19 9:59:29 PM  

nmrsnr: #At the same time, in the past two years (2021 and 2020), Rutgers Athletics operated at a $73 million deficit."

Yeah, I don't think that $0.45 million is really the issue.


And how much of it is ACTUALLY a loss? College football makes bank but they always find ways to make it seems like they're constantly poor and broke.
 
2022-08-19 10:15:55 PM  
Who knew the French Laundry delivered to Jersey?
 
2022-08-19 10:38:03 PM  

Stargazer86: nmrsnr: #At the same time, in the past two years (2021 and 2020), Rutgers Athletics operated at a $73 million deficit."

Yeah, I don't think that $0.45 million is really the issue.

And how much of it is ACTUALLY a loss? College football makes bank but they always find ways to make it seems like they're constantly poor and broke.


In fairness, Rutgers IS known for losing...
 
2022-08-19 10:45:46 PM  
But also...what period of time was Doordash acceptable for?

If it's year-round, like 365 days/yr, given 105 players (could be 125 if people in their redshirt seasons get the benefit, too)...they spent like $11/day/player...that's basically a lunch. Who cares?

Also, honestly, how are they gonna penalize Rutgers? Ban 'em from their bowl games? lol
 
2022-08-19 10:50:15 PM  

ChrisDe: Who knew the French Laundry delivered to Jersey?


I usually use the Korean laundry as they're a little less haughty.
 
2022-08-19 10:54:55 PM  
To be fair, $450,000 is only about 10 DoorDash deliveries
 
2022-08-19 10:57:13 PM  

Stargazer86: nmrsnr: #At the same time, in the past two years (2021 and 2020), Rutgers Athletics operated at a $73 million deficit."

Yeah, I don't think that $0.45 million is really the issue.

And how much of it is ACTUALLY a loss? College football makes bank but they always find ways to make it seems like they're constantly poor and broke.


College athletics don't operate on normal cash accounting. They're on a f***y system of use-based expensing.

You run a shop, you buy a thing for $10, and sell it for $20. You put $5 in a jar from every sale to pay for expenses like rent, insurance, power, advertising, etc. Your total profit is $5 for selling a thing. That's cash flow accounting. Your bookkeeping entries are made when cash changes hands.

Usage accounting is for tracking individual department expenses inside a greater corporate entity - like Citibank's IT people who maintain the servers. That department doesn't make a profit, but it's still important to assign it a budget. The football team does the same thing with the university. They rent the football stadium every week, they use university chartered transportation and food, they have to handle licensing costs for the university's name and logo. All of those get poured back into the coffers of the school as secondary income but not in the "total dollars of tuition collected" that every administrator loves to tout.

Athletic programs show a loss because the rates that they contract with the university are insanely high. It hides money in both directions, as there is less scrutiny about rental income from fixed operations making money (ie the field on game day) and allows the school to have extremely generous benefits for a program.

It makes sense why they do it, because the science department isn't a separate business when it comes to patent rights.
 
2022-08-19 10:59:18 PM  
*checks new Big Ten TV contract*

I think they'll be ok.
 
2022-08-19 11:33:14 PM  
You probably could have employed a bunch of students on the cafeteria to make them 3 course meals 3 times a day and just buy a new phone line for half the cost. Yes, I know school food is a step above prison food. Literally. For profit education even at state levels.

Eggs, bacon, pancakes box.

Sub sandwich. Chips. Cookie.

Side salad box. Big meaty dinner. Desert box.

Every college is different, but it is HARD to cheap out on a salad. Does a prison grade even exist for vegtables? Salads was my favorite dinner when going to college. Still is my second time around. I never regret making my "I'm going to pretend this chef salad is healthy". The burgers or pizza? All regerts.
 
2022-08-19 11:55:02 PM  
As someone who attended RU when the high-water mark for the football team was 5 wins in 3 years (including an 0-11 season, where they lost to both a 1-AA school AND Temple), I'm still trying to come to grips with the fact that somehow the program never got disbanded in the first place.
 
2022-08-20 12:19:36 AM  

Joe_diGriz: As someone who attended RU when the high-water mark for the football team was 5 wins in 3 years (including an 0-11 season, where they lost to both a 1-AA school AND Temple), I'm still trying to come to grips with the fact that somehow the program never got disbanded in the first place.


They won the realignment game.

Being the first ever team in the history of the sport also had something to do with it.
 
2022-08-20 12:52:56 AM  

Stargazer86: nmrsnr: #At the same time, in the past two years (2021 and 2020), Rutgers Athletics operated at a $73 million deficit."

Yeah, I don't think that $0.45 million is really the issue.

And how much of it is ACTUALLY a loss? College football makes bank but they always find ways to make it seems like they're constantly poor and broke.


Rutgers got hit by a couple of things all at once.  They've been trying to upgrade their facilities to the level of other B1G schools, at the same time as (like every other school) revenue being down the last two years, especially in 2020 when no one attended games and the conference played a short season.

But with the new media deal, that number will change significantly.
 
2022-08-20 12:55:09 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Joe_diGriz: As someone who attended RU when the high-water mark for the football team was 5 wins in 3 years (including an 0-11 season, where they lost to both a 1-AA school AND Temple), I'm still trying to come to grips with the fact that somehow the program never got disbanded in the first place.

They won the realignment game.

Being the first ever team in the history of the sport also had something to do with it.


Being the closest FBS team to the New York media market had everything to do with it.
 
2022-08-20 2:05:12 AM  

ChrisDe: Who knew the French Laundry delivered to Jersey?


Let's start with Gavin Newsom.
 
2022-08-20 3:30:34 AM  

The Smails Kid: ChrisDe: Who knew the French Laundry delivered to Jersey?

Let's start with Gavin Newsom.


I was gonna go with DeShaun Watson...
 
2022-08-20 3:55:11 AM  
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2022-08-20 5:29:33 AM  
I'd order anything and everything I could. I'm surprised it was only $450,000.
 
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