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(Deadline)   If you wake up tomorrow and giant cats rule the world, you can blame Netflix   (deadline.com) divider line
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2022-08-19 2:07:01 PM  
If you can herd a thousand cats, you're already God.
 
2022-08-19 2:14:24 PM  
I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?
 
2022-08-19 2:16:49 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


I've only caught the first episode and yes, absolutely. It's both faithful to the comic and internally explained and consistent.
 
2022-08-19 2:20:43 PM  

Boojum2k: Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?

I've only caught the first episode and yes, absolutely. It's both faithful to the comic and internally explained and consistent.


Cool I think I'm going to give it a go this weekend
 
2022-08-19 2:22:35 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Yes.
 
2022-08-19 2:26:24 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


yep I never read the comic and am enjoying it.  it's really beautiful too.  Netflix can make a series that's for sure.
 
2022-08-19 2:27:20 PM  

phlegmjay: Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?

Yes.


To be fair, a definitive answer requires a solid working understanding of Karma Chameleon's intelligence level and general familiarity with Western tropes.

So the only answer you can really give is "maybe?"
 
2022-08-19 2:29:42 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Yeah.  It's pretty straightforward.  Like any adaptation it's lacks a certain element of the original that it made it worth adapting but it's good enough on its own merits and hopefully will lead to others seeking out the original source material.
 
2022-08-19 2:44:03 PM  
Ooooh. Going to watch this. Michael Sheen and David Tennant? Nice little callback to Good Omens.
 
2022-08-19 2:46:29 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Yes, it should be pretty easy to understand. They did a great job smoothing over the rough patches of the first comic story arc where a regular reader is a bit lost because it requires some familiarity with Hellblazer, The New Gods, Justice League International, and The Demon.

Sandman didn't really quite figure out what it was until issue #8, so those first seven issues are a little rough in places and just feel a little off because you have superheroes popping in. I feel like the changes the series made to the beginning of the story are generally an improvement on the source material.
 
2022-08-19 2:56:01 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Ooooh. Going to watch this. Michael Sheen and David Tennant? Nice little callback to Good Omens.


I'm guessing you never caught their Pandemic web series, Staged.  Just the two of them, and sometimes their wives, passing the time chatting over Zoom during lockdown.  While their hapless director tries to do long-distance play rehearsals.
 
2022-08-19 2:56:10 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Boojum2k: Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?

I've only caught the first episode and yes, absolutely. It's both faithful to the comic and internally explained and consistent.

Cool I think I'm going to give it a go this weekend


One recommendation - This is NOT a show to put on in the background. It's visually stunning.
 
2022-08-19 2:57:18 PM  
Neat. Will have to check it out. As for the series itself, it was perfectly serviceable with the notable exceptions of horribly miscasting Lucifer and letting Patton Oswalt be Matthew's VA. Goddamn, it was like 'WE NEED MORE LINES FOR PATTON! MORE! THE PEOPLE ARE CLAMORING FOR MORE OSWALT!! I guarantee there was some producer whose kid loved Ratattoie and demanded that 'the funny rat guy' be cast in it.
 
2022-08-19 3:02:10 PM  
The only question is which giant cal will rule the world. Choose your champion.
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2022-08-19 3:14:02 PM  
Blame is a strong word subby. I don't think giant cats would do any worse than the assholes attempting to run the world now TBH.
 
2022-08-19 3:18:45 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?

Yes, it should be pretty easy to understand. They did a great job smoothing over the rough patches of the first comic story arc where a regular reader is a bit lost because it requires some familiarity with Hellblazer, The New Gods, Justice League International, and The Demon.

Sandman didn't really quite figure out what it was until issue #8, so those first seven issues are a little rough in places and just feel a little off because you have superheroes popping in. I feel like the changes the series made to the beginning of the story are generally an improvement on the source material.


I agree. On the whole, I like the series so far. However, it has been a bit of a letdown, but that's because I'm comparing it to the overall quality of the comic. And, as you note, the weakest parts of the comic are the first several issues. The show compares relatively favorably to those, and it has the potential to become great in further seasons, assuming Netflix doesn't inexplicably kill it, as they tend to do.
 
2022-08-19 3:19:06 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


FWIW, my wife and I have been watching it and are one episode away from finishing season one. I'm a die hard comics fan who read through the whole Sandman series multiple times back in the 90s. She is totally uninterested in comics.

We both love it. They have managed to pull off the near impossible feat of making it accessible to newcomers while being very true to the original source material. It's also visually stunning. My wife has mentioned a few times that while she may not be following all the little details of the plot, she's having a great time just taking it all in.
 
2022-08-19 4:07:40 PM  
Small cats already rule my world, what would the difference be?
 
2022-08-19 4:53:30 PM  
Sweet, I figured they'd leave out those stories, or at least wait until next season.
 
2022-08-19 4:53:38 PM  
"Calliope" is probably the darkest story in the entire run of the comics. Oof.  I wonder how they'll handle it in live-action. I'll watch it tonight.
 
2022-08-19 5:08:33 PM  

brigid_fitch: Ragin' Asian: Ooooh. Going to watch this. Michael Sheen and David Tennant? Nice little callback to Good Omens.

I'm guessing you never caught their Pandemic web series, Staged.  Just the two of them, and sometimes their wives, passing the time chatting over Zoom during lockdown.  While their hapless director tries to do long-distance play rehearsals.


Thanks. I'll check it out.

Just watched the extended sub-ep and it's just stonking great. Dream of a Thousand Cats wasn't much of a surprise since they just used the comic to storyboard it. I always imagined the Grey Cat to be female. Wonderfully voice acted.

Calliope was brilliantly cast. The lead actor reminds me of a young Rob Brydon or Rhys Ifans which is how pictured Maddox being played. I'm looking forward to Calliope and Orpheus  interacting.

I really hope Netflix continues the series to the end.
 
2022-08-19 5:52:20 PM  
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2022-08-19 6:44:47 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Yes. Haven't read it either and its all made clear as the show progresses. Its really good.
 
2022-08-19 6:45:12 PM  

Moroning: [Sandman goes all the way to 11.tweet]


I thought Endless Nights was volume 11, and Overture was volume 0, so there are 12 volumes now?  One bigger.  Even if 11 is the highest integer and all the C programmers are now like, "Fark, that's done it."
 
2022-08-19 7:50:25 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Both stories in this ep are standalone, really. I'd been hoping Dream of a Thousand Cats would be an intro to the entire series since it's Gaiman's entire shtick in a nutshell, so in my opinion you won't lose anything if you watch that episode before any of the others.

I alluded to the story when I submitted an article last week about jumping spiders possibly having REM sleep, but sadly it wasn't greenlit...
 
2022-08-19 8:36:32 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Never read the books but had no trouble following the TV series
 
2022-08-19 10:24:19 PM  

damageddude: Small cats already rule my world, what would the difference be?


I hear you man, I hear you. I'm in the middle of moving and Mithri is having none of it.
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2022-08-20 1:30:48 AM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Just be aware that this is a very long-term, interconnected story. 75 issues. Characters have been introduced whose real purpose won't be revealed until the end of the series. Plans are in motion that will play out over the course of the series and won't take effect until near the end, as well. You will be in this for the long haul.

You do have the advantage of the availability of the internet and Wikipedia to look up the (many) literary referencesused by Gaiman. When I first read the comics way back when, I thought that Gilbert was based off of Teddy Roosevelt; an avuncular, outdoorsy gentleman of the early 20th Century with a strong moral code, mustache, and pince nez glasses. I know now that Gilbert is a representation of Engish author G.K. Chesterton. Basically, when you hear a name you're not familiar with or see a book title mentioned, look it up. No real world name or book title is included in the series without a reason. It's not neccessary to understand the plot, but it does enhance your understanding.
 
2022-08-20 1:43:35 AM  
Ragin' Asian:

Calliope was brilliantly cast. The lead actor reminds me of a young Rob Brydon or Rhys Ifans which is how pictured Maddox being played. I'm looking forward to Calliope and Orpheus  interacting.

That was Arthur Darvill; aka Rory from Doctor Who. And Erasmus Fry was played by Derek Jacobi.

And yes, the actress playing Calliope, Melissanthi Mahut, was fantastic.
 
2022-08-20 5:19:34 AM  

Karma Chameleon: I've read some of Gaiman's work and enjoyed it but am not familiar with Sandman. Can I watch this show and understand what's going on without having read it?


Yes. And it's very much worth the time investment.
 
2022-08-20 4:02:15 PM  
I've never read any of the Sandman comics but really enjoyed the show.

It felt coherent, interconnected, and the characters vibrant. Some of the episodes were content wise slightly disturbing but still couldn't stop watching.

Will probably watch again to pick up more of the connections across the episodes.
 
2022-08-20 7:47:52 PM  

damageddude: Small cats already rule my world, what would the difference be?


Sometimes you would be lunch.
 
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