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(ESPN)   Top-ranked tennis player at U.S. Open complains about women's balls, asks to play with men's balls instead   (espn.com) divider line
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609 clicks; posted to Sports » on 19 Aug 2022 at 2:35 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-19 2:39:47 PM  
(cough)

/loosen your grip, hun
 
2022-08-19 2:41:54 PM  
First adult joke my dad ever told me, in 1980, was "What has yellow balls and eats pussy? Billie Jean King!"

I was 11 and didn't get it yet.
 
2022-08-19 2:44:51 PM  
I agree.  Also, women should use the same shot and hammer in field throwing events.
 
2022-08-19 2:48:49 PM  

Stud Gerbil: I agree.  Also, women should use the same shot and hammer in field throwing events.


They only use this ball in the US Open and the lead ups though. She was saying she can't even buy them to practice with. Seems stupid to me.
 
2022-08-19 2:50:53 PM  
I had no idea they were different. And even if I had, I would not have guessed they made the difference stated in the article
 
2022-08-19 3:06:45 PM  
Are they bouncy balls?
 
2022-08-19 3:10:08 PM  

BlazeTrailer: I had no idea they were different. And even if I had, I would not have guessed they made the difference stated in the article


When you're playing any sport at an elite level, all kinds of things that don't affect amateurs will affect you.  Like I don't give a shiat what golf ball I use, but the pros care.
 
2022-08-19 4:04:22 PM  

Calehedron: First adult joke my dad ever told me, in 1980, was "What has yellow balls and eats pussy? Billie Jean King!"

I was 11 and didn't get it yet.


See also Martina Navratilova
 
2022-08-19 4:08:39 PM  

king of vegas: Are they bouncy balls?


To the left and to the right.
 
2022-08-19 4:24:18 PM  

The Smails Kid: king of vegas: Are they bouncy balls?

To the left and to the right.


It's what the Social Pages say
 
2022-08-19 4:33:55 PM  
If I ever knew that different balls were used for each portion of the tournament I certainly forgot it.
 
2022-08-19 4:43:02 PM  

Rapmaster2000: BlazeTrailer: I had no idea they were different. And even if I had, I would not have guessed they made the difference stated in the article

When you're playing any sport at an elite level, all kinds of things that don't affect amateurs will affect you.  Like I don't give a shiat what golf ball I use, but the pros care.


100% understood and appreciated. Though I still wouldn't guess it means Ms X has no chance of winning the tournament and winners will more often be 1st timers

Just look at those dummies with the push brooms in curling. I now want see what magic they can work with remote controlled mini zambonis
 
2022-08-19 5:27:52 PM  
Only used at U.S. Open? Ok, someone has to. Are they Schweddy Balls?
 
2022-08-19 6:35:56 PM  
Women's tennis. Where there are six breaks in a set and no one can hold their serve. Betting's black widow.

She won 5000 matches in a row and now she's losing? Yeah, I think she may have a point. Change the balls and see what happens.
 
2022-08-19 7:14:32 PM  

BlazeTrailer: Rapmaster2000: When you're playing any sport at an elite level, all kinds of things that don't affect amateurs will affect you.  Like I don't give a shiat what golf ball I use, but the pros care.

Just look at those dummies with the push brooms in curling. I now want see what magic they can work with remote controlled mini zambonis


FYI: There are indeed controversies over curling brooms.
 
2022-08-19 9:05:16 PM  
> "I don't know, like, 15 years ago probably women had some elbow injuries because the balls were heavier and they changed them to women's balls, but right now we are so physically well prepared that I don't think it would happen."

So it sounds like there's some history to that decision, and it's just out of date.
 
2022-08-20 6:17:18 AM  
Because the men are simply too tall and serve too hard now. So in order to prevent every match from becoming a boring servefest, they changed the court surfaces to slow down the speed of the ball and induce more rallying and variety.

The flipside of this is that it has turned the women's game into an ugly, all-out war of attrition, where UEs and service breaks (as well as frequent injuries and retirements) are common and it gets harder to actually hit any winners. The game has become too slow.

So in their efforts to fix the men's game, they broke the women's game. Now they are course correcting in the other direction with different balls (only a few grams lighter, and less fuzz so they catch less friction and fly through the air faster) for the women exclusively, and the only one complaining about it is a clay court specialist who prefers the game to be slow and boring. These balls specifically neutralize her slugfest style of play.

The balls are only used for the USO series (Cincinnati and US Open for sure, and maybe Washington DC and Canada). They are not used by any other country, tournament, or surface currently. The US Open has the fastest court in the world.
 
2022-08-20 11:58:33 AM  

Ishkur: Because the men are simply too tall and serve too hard now. So in order to prevent every match from becoming a boring servefest, they changed the court surfaces to slow down the speed of the ball and induce more rallying and variety.

The flipside of this is that it has turned the women's game into an ugly, all-out war of attrition, where UEs and service breaks (as well as frequent injuries and retirements) are common and it gets harder to actually hit any winners. The game has become too slow.

So in their efforts to fix the men's game, they broke the women's game. Now they are course correcting in the other direction with different balls (only a few grams lighter, and less fuzz so they catch less friction and fly through the air faster) for the women exclusively, and the only one complaining about it is a clay court specialist who prefers the game to be slow and boring. These balls specifically neutralize her slugfest style of play.

The balls are only used for the USO series (Cincinnati and US Open for sure, and maybe Washington DC and Canada). They are not used by any other country, tournament, or surface currently. The US Open has the fastest court in the world.


Interesting. You appear to be very informed on the subject.

So what are you doing here?
 
2022-08-20 12:06:19 PM  

Ishkur: Because the men are simply too tall


Jason Schwartzman says "hi."  From somewhere down around your kneecaps.
 
2022-08-20 12:09:51 PM  

Uzzah: Ishkur: Because the men are simply too tall

Jason Schwartzman says "hi."  From somewhere down around your kneecaps.


Diego? Lol... he's such a f*cking rat. In a good way. I have lost so much money betting on that guy but he always fights for every point. If he were a foot taller the dude would be the greatest tennis player in history. Or something.
 
2022-08-20 12:46:17 PM  

ChrisDe: So what are you doing here?


Well, many decades ago my parents had some very productive sex.....
 
2022-08-20 12:49:46 PM  

Ishkur: Because the men are simply too tall and serve too hard now. So in order to prevent every match from becoming a boring servefest, they changed the court surfaces to slow down the speed of the ball and induce more rallying and variety.

The flipside of this is that it has turned the women's game into an ugly, all-out war of attrition, where UEs and service breaks (as well as frequent injuries and retirements) are common and it gets harder to actually hit any winners. The game has become too slow.

So in their efforts to fix the men's game, they broke the women's game. Now they are course correcting in the other direction with different balls (only a few grams lighter, and less fuzz so they catch less friction and fly through the air faster) for the women exclusively, and the only one complaining about it is a clay court specialist who prefers the game to be slow and boring. These balls specifically neutralize her slugfest style of play.

The balls are only used for the USO series (Cincinnati and US Open for sure, and maybe Washington DC and Canada). They are not used by any other country, tournament, or surface currently. The US Open has the fastest court in the world.


The solution is right there as well, but I guess equipment makers don't want to kill the golden goose. Bring back wooden racquets, limit head size, and all these problems go away.
 
2022-08-20 12:49:58 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Diego? Lol... he's such a f*cking rat. In a good way. I have lost so much money betting on that guy but he always fights for every point. If he were a foot taller the dude would be the greatest tennis player in history. Or something.


I love Schwartzman, he definitely makes the most out of what he has, but there's a reason why he doesn't win anything, and doesn't do well on any surface other than clay.
 
2022-08-20 12:55:56 PM  

Ishkur: NewportBarGuy: Diego? Lol... he's such a f*cking rat. In a good way. I have lost so much money betting on that guy but he always fights for every point. If he were a foot taller the dude would be the greatest tennis player in history. Or something.

I love Schwartzman, he definitely makes the most out of what he has, but there's a reason why he doesn't win anything, and doesn't do well on any surface other than clay.


I don't usually mind being short, but two of my three best sports were swimming and tennis and I knew by my freshman year in HS it was an insurmountable issue. This was the late 70s. Ironically, I always thought I was too small for baseball and never took it seriously but you can get away with being short in baseball. Living overseas though, the coaching was shiat anyway.
 
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