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(The Hill)   College students who have kids have to work at least 50 hours a week at minimum wage to afford childcare plus tuition. But sure, let's continue to have slave wages and forced birth across a huge swath of the country   (thehill.com) divider line
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2022-08-19 2:50:06 PM  
The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.
 
2022-08-19 3:23:20 PM  
Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.
 
2022-08-19 6:13:29 PM  
Must be a cheapo college.
 
2022-08-19 6:46:08 PM  

Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.


Assuming kids weren't taught abstinence only sex ed.
 
2022-08-19 6:46:18 PM  
Oh, what horseshiat. They expect me to believe that crap?

50 hours a week at minimum wage ain't even gonna cover the child care!
 
2022-08-19 6:47:13 PM  
The USA's lack of a public university system is shiathole country, all the way down through their bowels. They bring njothing of value to the education table. They suck. We need to stop hiring their grads to do jobs in our countries. They can't follow the mos tobvious of examples we provide for succes, and their system teaches failure first.
 
2022-08-19 6:47:29 PM  

Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.


Because accidents don't happen. Beause condoms are perfect. Jesus, try again, man.
 
2022-08-19 6:47:33 PM  
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2022-08-19 6:48:44 PM  

DoctorWhat: Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.

Assuming kids weren't taught abstinence only sex ed.


Assuming it's kids in college, not older folks with kids going back to school to continue their education.
 
2022-08-19 6:50:37 PM  
These people should have thought about that before they were born and raised in a society that doesn't give a shiat about them
 
2022-08-19 6:51:24 PM  
Right wingers and fascists and wannabe oligarchs(but I didn't need to say it thrice) consider that a good thing because all they care about is exploiting the humanity out of that person until they die in poverty and making sure poverty is generational so they always have willing souls to harvest for pennies but can claim they aren't slavers because the person had a choice to starve to death or slave away in the salt mines.
 
2022-08-19 6:51:58 PM  
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Tuition-free public education is essential to a healthy society.

Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.


Sometimes, there are people who step away from college for one reason or another, then go back to college again.
 
2022-08-19 6:52:07 PM  
GQP:  OK
 
2022-08-19 6:52:12 PM  
Just part of the Republican agenda. Gotta keep people poor, stupid, and forced to give birth to replenish the Republican voting pool..
 
2022-08-19 6:52:57 PM  

puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.


Um...what now?
 
2022-08-19 6:53:19 PM  

puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.


As someone in the field, this idea is brought up a lot.

...and that is usually where it ends.  Everyone agrees it is a good idea, just no feasible way to pull it off.

liability, staffing, space just to start, then the whole "how do we pay for it" part.
 
2022-08-19 6:54:54 PM  

Karma Chameleon: These people should have thought about that before they were born and raised in a society that doesn't give a shiat about them


Is there any place on earth where a society actually does care enough?
 
2022-08-19 7:01:28 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.

Because accidents don't happen. Beause condoms are perfect. Jesus, try again, man.


And rapists always wrap their willies before raping.
 
2022-08-19 7:05:22 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: The USA's lack of a public university system is shiathole country, all the way down through their bowels. They bring njothing of value to the education table. They suck. We need to stop hiring their grads to do jobs in our countries. They can't follow the mos tobvious of examples we provide for succes, and their system teaches failure first.


The hell are you on about? The US has a crapload of great universities, many of which have programs that are literally the top ranked in the world for their field. You sound like a cranky old man who needs to retire but thinks he can't because nobody else has any idea what they're doing.

And that's not even what the article is about. It's about lack of reasonably affordable access to education. And that 50 hours number at minimum wage is laughably low.
 
2022-08-19 7:07:02 PM  
If only we had a political party working to reduce college costs, or raise wages.
 
2022-08-19 7:08:03 PM  

MaKaM: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.

Because accidents don't happen. Beause condoms are perfect. Jesus, try again, man.

And rapists always wrap their willies before raping.


And life circumstances never change. The economy never tanks, Jobs are never lost, Parents never abandon their children, no one ever dies, domestic abuse never happens, leading to needing to create a new path in life to not just survive but provide a better life for their kids. No it's just whores whoring all over whore island, lazily sailing down the slut river to slutsville.
 
2022-08-19 7:12:36 PM  
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2022-08-19 7:15:21 PM  

Weatherkiss: Just part of the Republican agenda. Gotta keep people poor, stupid, and forced to give birth to replenish the Republican voting pool..


You misspelled Democrat, amirite?
 
2022-08-19 7:16:31 PM  

austerity101: If only we had a political party working to reduce college costs, or raise wages.


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2022-08-19 7:17:59 PM  

Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.


The Christian high school I went to back in the day didn't say much about condoms or how they were used. They just pulled out a bible, waved it at the all male or all female class and said, "Don't do it at all." If you did and a baby started they booted you out of the school. The parents weren't any better either 9 times out of 10. Today it doesn't sound like things really changed in schools like the one I went to so good luck with that theory.
 
2022-08-19 7:18:47 PM  
The US is not a country anyway.  It's a plantation for rich people.
 
2022-08-19 7:25:31 PM  

puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.


Most colleges have an early childhood education program. It'd be a great way to provide future elementary teachers experience with children and parents with a daycare right on campus.
 
2022-08-19 7:25:58 PM  

Nimbull: Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.

The Christian high school I went to back in the day didn't say much about condoms or how they were used. They just pulled out a bible, waved it at the all male or all female class and said, "Don't do it at all." If you did and a baby started they booted you out of the school. The parents weren't any better either 9 times out of 10. Today it doesn't sound like things really changed in schools like the one I went to so good luck with that theory.


We had an anonymous "question and answer" session with our sex ed. Basically every question, right down to basic questions, like "What is an IUD?" we're answered with "AHHH NOT FOR YOU CUZ YOU TOO YOUNG DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT RAWWRRR!!!!" Such a waste of time.
 
2022-08-19 7:50:54 PM  

Mugato: The whole condom thing should have been mastered in high school, just sayin'.


Condoms only work 99% of the time. You can't beat those odds...
 
2022-08-19 7:53:33 PM  

Hyjamon: puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.

As someone in the field, this idea is brought up a lot.

...and that is usually where it ends.  Everyone agrees it is a good idea, just no feasible way to pull it off.

liability, staffing, space just to start, then the whole "how do we pay for it" part.


Those stadiums and sportsball coaches need to be paid for somehow...
 
2022-08-19 8:32:30 PM  

dustman81: puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.

Most colleges have an early childhood education program. It'd be a great way to provide future elementary teachers experience with children and parents with a daycare right on campus.


They do that at our high school here. Rotate the students throughout the day and many of them go off with a head start in that field for college.
On a side note, my college student daughter is expecting. Thankfully, her partner has a good job, all of her classes are online and she's got family here to help. She's bound and determined to finish her degree. I'm very proud of her.
 
2022-08-19 8:38:54 PM  
America is all in on wage slavery.

It will never let another generation have the prosperous lives that Boomers had.

Two thirds of American adults are paycheck-to-paycheck. No amount of budgeting gets people out of that sh*t.

This sh*t is heinous and Europeans are right to wonder in bewilderment why we haven't [REDACTED] yet.
 
2022-08-19 8:46:46 PM  
Hey, if they're working 50 hour weeks, then there's no time for school, which will save them the expense of all that pesky tuition.
 
2022-08-19 8:49:23 PM  

bluejeansonfire: America is all in on wage slavery.

It will never let another generation have the prosperous lives that Boomers had.

Two thirds of American adults are paycheck-to-paycheck. No amount of budgeting gets people out of that sh*t.

This sh*t is heinous and Europeans are right to wonder in bewilderment why we haven't [REDACTED] yet.


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At this time, America needs a $30/hour minimum wage *and* a maximum wage which won't exceed 100x the minimum wage.
 
2022-08-19 10:16:56 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: bluejeansonfire: America is all in on wage slavery.

It will never let another generation have the prosperous lives that Boomers had.

Two thirds of American adults are paycheck-to-paycheck. No amount of budgeting gets people out of that sh*t.

This sh*t is heinous and Europeans are right to wonder in bewilderment why we haven't [REDACTED] yet.

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At this time, America needs a $30/hour minimum wage *and* a maximum wage which won't exceed 100x the minimum wage.


Sh*t, man. Make the maximum wage no more than 10x the minimum wage.

I'm sick of this world where our parents and grandparents got to earn enough to save up and live their dreams, but we're supposed to just barely survive every two weeks.
 
2022-08-19 10:33:50 PM  

bluejeansonfire: Bith Set Me Up: bluejeansonfire: America is all in on wage slavery.

It will never let another generation have the prosperous lives that Boomers had.

Two thirds of American adults are paycheck-to-paycheck. No amount of budgeting gets people out of that sh*t.

This sh*t is heinous and Europeans are right to wonder in bewilderment why we haven't [REDACTED] yet.

[Fark user image 599x697]

At this time, America needs a $30/hour minimum wage *and* a maximum wage which won't exceed 100x the minimum wage.

Sh*t, man. Make the maximum wage no more than 10x the minimum wage.

I'm sick of this world where our parents and grandparents got to earn enough to save up and live their dreams, but we're supposed to just barely survive every two weeks.


People that rich don't get paid a "wage".
 
2022-08-19 11:01:15 PM  

Slackfumasta: Oh, what horseshiat. They expect me to believe that crap?

50 hours a week at minimum wage ain't even gonna cover the child care!


Reads like most of the cost is covered by financial aid.
 
2022-08-19 11:01:44 PM  

bluejeansonfire: Bith Set Me Up: bluejeansonfire: America is all in on wage slavery.

It will never let another generation have the prosperous lives that Boomers had.

Two thirds of American adults are paycheck-to-paycheck. No amount of budgeting gets people out of that sh*t.

This sh*t is heinous and Europeans are right to wonder in bewilderment why we haven't [REDACTED] yet.

[Fark user image 599x697]

At this time, America needs a $30/hour minimum wage *and* a maximum wage which won't exceed 100x the minimum wage.

Sh*t, man. Make the maximum wage no more than 10x the minimum wage.

I'm sick of this world where our parents and grandparents got to earn enough to save up and live their dreams, but we're supposed to just barely survive every two weeks.


As a wise farker has said before :


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2022-08-19 11:29:27 PM  

oa330_man: Hyjamon: puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.

As someone in the field, this idea is brought up a lot.

...and that is usually where it ends.  Everyone agrees it is a good idea, just no feasible way to pull it off.

liability, staffing, space just to start, then the whole "how do we pay for it" part.

Those stadiums and sportsball coaches need to be paid for somehow...


I agree for larger institutions (10k-20k+ enrollment) they should be able to find some efficiency at that scale.

There are smaller state schools (2k-5k) where that becomes tougher to accommodate.
 
2022-08-20 12:36:07 AM  
Seems to me that womenfolk don't need all that fancy learning.  What they need is a man to tell them what to do.
 
2022-08-20 3:37:25 AM  

puffy999: Campuses should have free day care.

I once went round and round with someone when I was in college who steadfastly supported the idea of those costs being tacked onto educational fees. I kept pointing out that it's a lot better for the state itself (at a public school) to handle these costs through taxes, because otherwise an already expensive college experience would cost that much more.

He was a very Republican person, whose education was being subsidized by his employer, who was older and had a kid. I got "no taxes" out of him. It seemed that he just wanted cheap day care for his kid, without having to actually help pay for it himself.


Going by the profits some colleges can bring in, "free" should read "included in your $20,000 bill".
 
2022-08-20 6:19:40 PM  
Does that include rent and food? Because 50 hours a week minimum wage isn't enough for just rent and food if you have kids much less tuition. They must have left quite a bit out of their calculations to get this number.
 
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