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2022-08-19 9:56:25 AM  
That's the plan. Keep the red states solidly red so that the Electoral College and the two senators per state rule keeps the Republicans in power, despite being the decreasing minority. They obviously believe this is worth trashing their states into third world shiatholes.
 
2022-08-19 6:50:57 PM  

namegoeshere: That's the plan. Keep the red states solidly red so that the Electoral College and the two senators per state rule keeps the Republicans in power, despite being the decreasing minority. They obviously believe this is worth trashing their states into third world shiatholes.


This is a collision of the business/economy-first GOP and the crazed evangelicals.

The business-first types want the nice tax bases and thrumming economies (plus cheap immigrant labor). Except they've been losing badly or have straight-up converted to letting the evangelical/supremacist lunatics rule the roost.
 
2022-08-19 8:14:37 PM  
Seems a bit early for that...
 
2022-08-19 8:16:22 PM  
fark those states. They should also move federal jobs out of those shiathole states into states that are less backwards.
 
2022-08-19 8:17:32 PM  
Wait a minute. If all the libs move away, who are we gonna trigger?
 
2022-08-19 8:19:04 PM  

namegoeshere: They obviously believe this is worth trashing their states into third world shiatholes


Have been for a long time now, they've just escalated how quickly they are digging through the bottom of the barrel
 
2022-08-19 8:19:08 PM  
Red states now: "Good! Leave! We don't need yer liberal asses here anyways tellin' us what to do!"

Red states 1 year later: "Why ain't we earnin' any money no more? Must be them dang liberals in the gov't stealin' all our taxes!"
 
2022-08-19 8:20:08 PM  
The Democrat in the state they are moving to asks for $15.
 
2022-08-19 8:21:04 PM  
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The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans
 
2022-08-19 8:21:30 PM  
No shiat, Sherlock.

Denying basic human rights will definitely cause someone to reconsider their living situation.
 
2022-08-19 8:22:15 PM  

LurkerSupreme: Red states now: "Good! Leave! We don't need yer liberal asses here anyways tellin' us what to do!"

Red states 1 year later: "Why ain't we earnin' any money no more? Must be them dang liberals in the gov't stealin' all our taxes!"


You do understand that most corporations are represented by New York and California while abusing workers in the rest of the country?
 
2022-08-19 8:22:29 PM  

sinner4ever: The Democrat in the state they are moving to asks for $15.


I'm sure that made sense when you typed that, but I'm lost.
 
2022-08-19 8:23:49 PM  
B-b-but Greg Abbott said that businesses and workers would be attracted to Texas' moral stances.
 
2022-08-19 8:25:23 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans


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2022-08-19 8:26:25 PM  

Ed Grubermann: sinner4ever: The Democrat in the state they are moving to asks for $15.

I'm sure that made sense when you typed that, but I'm lost.


Forget it, Ed. It's S4E.
 
2022-08-19 8:26:27 PM  

Peki: No shiat, Sherlock.

Denying basic human rights will definitely cause someone to reconsider their living situation.


I already refused to live or vacation in red states, before Roe's reversal.

I have no desire to live anywhere near people who want those kinds of leaders doing that kind of bullshiat. They can fark right off with that. I'm not going to work for them, I'm not going to spend my money in their city, and I'm not going to be their friend.
 
2022-08-19 8:28:54 PM  
The majority of corporations are in California and New York. They buy politicians in every flyover state to abuse the workers.
If only there was something Democrats in charge could do to stop this and earn votes from those states?
 
2022-08-19 8:29:15 PM  
I only visit Floriduh once every few months to check up on the health of my aged grandmother who cannot be moved because she's too brittle. Once she passes, I will never set foot in that horrible place ever again.

Why anyone would ever go to one of those backward hellholes is beyond me. We have enough problems here with the State of Jefferson loons.
 
2022-08-19 8:30:16 PM  
U-Haul? How many lesbians do you think get pregnant on accident, Subby?
 
2022-08-19 8:30:35 PM  
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS...FOR SCIENCE❗

➡Texas is a toxic chemical manufacturing human exposure experiment.

Seriously though, you'll fark up the data.
 
2022-08-19 8:33:40 PM  

mistahtom: DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS...FOR SCIENCE❗

➡Texas is a toxic chemical manufacturing human exposure experiment.

Seriously though, you'll fark up the data.


Can confirm.
 
2022-08-19 8:34:24 PM  
Roughly 1 in 3 job-seekers say they won't apply to a job in a state with an abortion ban, according to an August ResumeBuilder survey of 1,000 people. And 1 in 4 job-seekers currently living in a restrictive state is applying to jobs only where abortion is legal.

Wow. That's actually pretty amazing. I'm lucky to live in a free state. It seems crazy to have to use a term like that, but here we are in the dumbest timeline.
 
2022-08-19 8:34:41 PM  

Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]


I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.
 
2022-08-19 8:35:35 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: namegoeshere: That's the plan. Keep the red states solidly red so that the Electoral College and the two senators per state rule keeps the Republicans in power, despite being the decreasing minority. They obviously believe this is worth trashing their states into third world shiatholes.

This is a collision of the business/economy-first GOP and the crazed evangelicals.

The business-first types want the nice tax bases and thrumming economies (plus cheap immigrant labor). Except they've been losing badly or have straight-up converted to letting the evangelical/supremacist lunatics rule the roost.


Democrats are better for the economy than Republicans.
 
2022-08-19 8:36:50 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans


Republicans get Hispanic voters on the abortion issue, I do believe.
 
2022-08-19 8:37:18 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]

I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.


It is a national issue when national Democratic leaders actively campaign for anti-choice candidates over ones that actually support the Party Platform..
 
2022-08-19 8:39:27 PM  

king of vegas: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

Republicans get Hispanic voters on the abortion issue, I do believe.


This. Catholic on top of a culturally-ingrained patriarchal mindset.
 
2022-08-19 8:39:36 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]

I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.


An anti-abortionist has a chance of winning the mayoral race in Los Angeles.

This is not an issue we can sleep on and assume that any location is "safe."
 
2022-08-19 8:39:53 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I only visit Floriduh once every few months to check up on the health of my aged grandmother who cannot be moved because she's too brittle. Once she passes, I will never set foot in that horrible place ever again.

Why anyone would ever go to one of those backward hellholes is beyond me. We have enough problems here with the State of Jefferson loons.


I'm hoping we 86 Rubio this year but I don't trust our elections system under the current Nazi regime.
 
2022-08-19 8:40:11 PM  
Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.
 
2022-08-19 8:42:09 PM  

Flushing It All Away: Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.


User name checks out.
 
2022-08-19 8:42:17 PM  
These policies might slow Texas turning blue, but if won't stop it.  For some reason, centralist Republicans leaving blue states sometimes find that Republican policies aren't so great when they're dialed up to 11, and it pushes them over to the other team.
 
2022-08-19 8:42:30 PM  

sinner4ever: Bith Set Me Up: Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]

I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.

It is a national issue when national Democratic leaders actively campaign for anti-choice candidates over ones that actually support the Party Platform..


Peki: Bith Set Me Up: Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]

I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.

An anti-abortionist has a chance of winning the mayoral race in Los Angeles.

This is not an issue we can sleep on and assume that any location is "safe."


https://newrepublic.com/article/166600/henry-cuellar-steny-hoyer-clyburn-democrats
 
2022-08-19 8:45:46 PM  
That's all fine and good, but Red States still get two senators each so... I'll let that sink in for a bit.
 
2022-08-19 8:46:31 PM  

Peki: Bith Set Me Up: Lillya: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

[Fark user image 425x427]

I'm from NJ. Last fall, Gov. Phil Murphy almost lost his reelection to an anti-abortion warrior. Talking about this in terms of red states or blue states instead of an national issue is selective obliviousness.

An anti-abortionist has a chance of winning the mayoral race in Los Angeles.

This is not an issue we can sleep on and assume that any location is "safe."


Not much chance. Bass is clobbering him. Time to hit the phone banks; I hear he's taking a vacation the end of the month.
 
2022-08-19 8:47:16 PM  

Flushing It All Away: Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.


It doesn't work that way under the Constitution. The way it's set up now shiat states make other states shiattier.
 
2022-08-19 8:48:28 PM  
Bradford, 32, walked away from a $300,000 job based in Oklahoma out of concern for her health. She's a strategic investment professional living in Los Angeles and was set to start working remotely for a company based in Oklahoma this month. But once Roe was overturned, and Oklahoma enacted its trigger law banning almost all abortions, Bradford says the uncertainty surrounding the state's restricted reproductive care led her to pull out of the job altogether.

Am I missing something?
 
2022-08-19 8:48:56 PM  

Dr. Bison: Flushing It All Away: Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.

It doesn't work that way under the Constitution. The way it's set up now shiat states make other states shiattier.


So, let's start talking about excising the problem, shall we? Nobody tries to reason with the tumor. They cut it and move on.
 
2022-08-19 8:50:17 PM  
Pelosi said she has placards in her basement from 50 years ago for environmental issues when she insulted AOC for pushing the "Green Dream".
I'm wondering if she can find her women's rights placards behind them.
 
2022-08-19 8:50:51 PM  

sinner4ever: LurkerSupreme: Red states now: "Good! Leave! We don't need yer liberal asses here anyways tellin' us what to do!"

Red states 1 year later: "Why ain't we earnin' any money no more? Must be them dang liberals in the gov't stealin' all our taxes!"

You do understand that most corporations are represented by New York and California while abusing workers in the rest of the country?


sinner4ever: The majority of corporations are in California and New York. They buy politicians in every flyover state to abuse the workers.
If only there was something Democrats in charge could do to stop this and earn votes from those states?


https://www.businessinsider.com/state-abortion-ban-sponsors-bankrolled-by-att-walmart-citi-corporations-2022-5
 
2022-08-19 8:51:00 PM  

bizzwire: Bradford, 32, walked away from a $300,000 job based in Oklahoma out of concern for her health. She's a strategic investment professional living in Los Angeles and was set to start working remotely for a company based in Oklahoma this month. But once Roe was overturned, and Oklahoma enacted its trigger law banning almost all abortions, Bradford says the uncertainty surrounding the state's restricted reproductive care led her to pull out of the job altogether.

Am I missing something?


Her health insurance would be based in Oklahoma, and she was afraid of denied coverage for a medical condition she has.
 
2022-08-19 8:51:55 PM  

bizzwire: Bradford, 32, walked away from a $300,000 job based in Oklahoma out of concern for her health. She's a strategic investment professional living in Los Angeles and was set to start working remotely for a company based in Oklahoma this month. But once Roe was overturned, and Oklahoma enacted its trigger law banning almost all abortions, Bradford says the uncertainty surrounding the state's restricted reproductive care led her to pull out of the job altogether.

Am I missing something?


Oklahoma was probably requiring her to track her menstrual cycles on her company timesheets.
 
2022-08-19 8:52:03 PM  

Dr. Bison: Flushing It All Away: Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.

It doesn't work that way under the Constitution. The way it's set up now shiat states make other states shiattier.


Josh Shapiro has already said that the first thing he would do is cut corporate taxes should he win.
It is like the cops. All bad apples.
 
2022-08-19 8:52:19 PM  
I saw a couple interviewed ... they tried to have a kid, but testing turned up serious problems that drove a decision to terminate the pregnancy. They really want a kid, but with legislation what it is in Texas, they don't dare try again until they relocate.

A pair of young professionals... Who want a kid... Can't have a kid in Texas.
 
2022-08-19 8:54:36 PM  

gunga galunga: king of vegas: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

Republicans get Hispanic voters on the abortion issue, I do believe.

This. Catholic on top of a culturally-ingrained patriarchal mindset.


A lot of those are currently saying the GOP has gone too far.  Way too far.  Or so it's been reported.
 
2022-08-19 8:56:18 PM  

bizzwire: Bradford, 32, walked away from a $300,000 job based in Oklahoma out of concern for her health. She's a strategic investment professional living in Los Angeles and was set to start working remotely for a company based in Oklahoma this month. But once Roe was overturned, and Oklahoma enacted its trigger law banning almost all abortions, Bradford says the uncertainty surrounding the state's restricted reproductive care led her to pull out of the job altogether.

Am I missing something?


The rest of her story?  Like in the article?
 
2022-08-19 8:56:30 PM  

Mike_1962: gunga galunga: king of vegas: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image image 600x409]

The overwhelming majority of all Americans are pro-abortion. The *sole* segment that is overwhelmingly against it are white conservatives.

So, it isn't "red states vs. blue states", it's progress vs. conservatism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/07/virginia-new-jersey-white-working-class-critical-race-theory-democrats-republicans

Republicans get Hispanic voters on the abortion issue, I do believe.

This. Catholic on top of a culturally-ingrained patriarchal mindset.

A lot of those are currently saying the GOP has gone too far.  Way too far.  Or so it's been reported.


Meanwhile MSNBC is representing the Bush administration, CNN is firing anyone that talks against Trump, NewsNation and FoxNews are significantly pushing right wing propaganda.
 
2022-08-19 8:57:41 PM  

sinner4ever: Dr. Bison: Flushing It All Away: Good. I don't see why putting all this shiat back to the states is an issue. Successful states will compete better against shiat states. Maybe we would do the same with federal welfare too? No reason why better and more successful states should have to subsidize worse states.

It doesn't work that way under the Constitution. The way it's set up now shiat states make other states shiattier.

Josh Shapiro has already said that the first thing he would do is cut corporate taxes should he win.
It is like the cops. All bad apples.


Is there something preventing blue, enlightened states from taxing corporations more?

I believe there was an entire dust up between New York and Ohio last summer due to the latter advertising low corporate taxes. All NY based companies did was giggle because what company is going to relocate from NYC to ... Ohio?
 
2022-08-19 8:57:58 PM  

namegoeshere: That's the plan. Keep the red states solidly red so that the Electoral College and the two senators per state rule keeps the Republicans in power, despite being the decreasing minority. They obviously believe this is worth trashing their states into third world shiatholes.


bad plan.  sense ever 10 years when they do the census it re dose the house. meaning that if to many move from red states to blue state. they gain sets in the house and red states lose them.  the number of ec votes a state has is the number of senators+reps in the house. so if red states lose house members and blue states gain then red states lose ec votes.  so they might be able to have the senators to be at lest 50/50 but they lose the house and possible pres.
 
2022-08-19 8:59:23 PM  

sinner4ever: The majority of corporations are in California and New York.


Delaware?
 
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