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(Huffington Post)   Trump lawyer insists the Mar-a-Lardo documents were stored securely in the basement. Only a limited number of people had access to the files   (huffpost.com) divider line
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2022-08-19 8:31:48 AM  
Only a limited number of people:
the russian ambassador
the chinese ambassador
dumpy
lumpy
chumpy
dave, some guy who was looking for the bathroom and got lost
Mavis, from accounting
the kid who mows the lawn
Kid Rock
 
2022-08-19 8:46:48 AM  
Feel like there should have been a nine to  eleven joke in there somewhere but not Rudy so I'll allow the lapse.
 
2022-08-19 8:59:20 AM  
Legally, Trump himself is not allowed access to those documents. No one at Mar-A-Lago had more legal right than he did (which was none) to have access to those documents.

I don't care if the documents were all Mary Todd Lincoln pancake recipes, their presence in Florida was a crime in and of itself.

They are probably connected to other (non pancake-related) crimes, but we can see the initial crime pretty plainly.
 
2022-08-19 9:00:51 AM  
How many excuses are we up to now?
 
2022-08-19 9:03:22 AM  
Yeah, but Hillary's email server was also locked in the basement with only a limited number of p..... oooooooooooohhhhhhh.
 
2022-08-19 9:07:37 AM  

Shostie: How many excuses are we up to now?


Last count was close to 58 so I guess this makes 59?

Anyone other than mrshowrules keeping track?
 
2022-08-19 9:08:34 AM  
"Only certain members of staff can get there, and then there's only one key."

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2022-08-19 9:10:59 AM  
Then why is there any mystery - at all - about who the rat is?

If it was that secure you'd know exactly and immediately who the snitch was.
 
2022-08-19 9:11:27 AM  
"He committed a crime but he did it responsibly" is not a good - or even valid - defense.
 
2022-08-19 9:11:45 AM  
So... like I hate to point out the glaring obvious here but, uh, that's a confession? I mean, the crime of already committing espionage was already farking blatant, because they found the documents, at a location, where they were not secure. He was informed about the fact that removing them would be a violation. Then he did the thing.

Now, he is admitting to doing the thing.

So, that really only leaves one, teenty, tiny, question remaining, which is, why are we not punishing him for the doing of the thing?

I wish crime was still illegal.
 
2022-08-19 9:11:58 AM  
We already know that Trump files the paperwork to get extra HB-1 visas so he can pay even less to feel like he's king of Mar-a-lago.  How many of those guest workers who are willing to accept the low wages he pays and deal with his crap are actually spies?
 
2022-08-19 9:12:20 AM  
Were all of those people in possession of top-secret clearance and had also been read-in to the programs in question? Because if not, it doesn't matter.
 
2022-08-19 9:12:22 AM  
YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM AT ALL YOU DUMB F**KING TWAT
 
2022-08-19 9:12:46 AM  
Do we have an over/under on when the feds will do the perp walk or if New York will get them first?

Asking for a lot of friends.
 
2022-08-19 9:12:54 AM  
I am an amateur but I can pick a lock in 15secs with a rake.

These people might have well just left it in the open.
 
2022-08-19 9:13:34 AM  

bloobeary: Only a limited number of people:
the russian ambassador
the chinese ambassador
dumpy
lumpy
chumpy
dave, some guy who was looking for the bathroom and got lost
Mavis, from accounting
the kid who mows the lawn
Kid Rock


Way to snub his good friend Kayne.

Oh, wait, that would required the blah... er uh, um, someone not usually up to the caliber of Mar-A-Lardo usually clientele to be on the site
 
2022-08-19 9:14:07 AM  
I shudder to think of all the OPSEC refresher courses that just became mandatory for contractors handling classified materials. It was bad enough after Snowden.

/out of that world
 
2022-08-19 9:14:56 AM  
Does he mean "a limited number of people" had access, just like when the documents were still professionally, federally stored in DC, or more like there were "a limited number of people" on Mar-a-Lardo's staff who knew which hook the "Top Secret Document Room" key hung on behind the front desk?
 
2022-08-19 9:15:00 AM  
How soon before TFG gets on troof or whatever and proclaims "Those stupid FBI thugs didn't even find everything!"?
 
2022-08-19 9:15:19 AM  
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2022-08-19 9:15:32 AM  
Picking locks is impossible for foreign spies.  It's true.
 
2022-08-19 9:16:06 AM  
All i know is that a chinese national with a full spy toolkit got busted on the grounds once before.

Who knows how many others might have been successful, and nobody even knows?
 
2022-08-19 9:16:09 AM  
And we all know how they feel about laws....

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2022-08-19 9:16:21 AM  
Where's that excuses list? This just keeps getting better.
 
2022-08-19 9:16:24 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Does he mean "a limited number of people" had access, just like when the documents were still professionally, federally stored in DC, or more like there were "a limited number of people" on Mar-a-Lardo's staff who knew which hook the "Top Secret Document Room" key hung on behind the front desk?


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2022-08-19 9:16:43 AM  

RasIanI: Then why is there any mystery - at all - about who the rat is?

If it was that secure you'd know exactly and immediately who the snitch was.


You're right, and not getting enough credit for this comment.
 
2022-08-19 9:17:03 AM  

HerptheDerp: So, that really only leaves one, teenty, tiny, question remaining, which is, why are we not punishing him for the doing of the thing?

I wish crime was still illegal.


Counterpoint: Hunter Biden's laptop. Checkmate, Libs!

/ANGH
 
2022-08-19 9:17:54 AM  

Darkmeer: Do we have an over/under on when the feds will do the perp walk or if New York will get them first?

Asking for a lot of friends.


Yes
5-1
 
2022-08-19 9:18:15 AM  
Yeah, we all know about the super strict security measures in Mar-a-Lard regarding classified info.
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And as pointed out already in this thread.
Regardless, YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEN IN THE FIRST PLACE, ORANGE ASSHOLE!!
 
2022-08-19 9:18:24 AM  

HerptheDerp: I wish crime was still illegal.


It is for regular people like us. But once you hit a certain echelon of rich and connected, the rules change. At worst, Donnie gets bopped with a rolled up newspaper and has to make do without an extra hamberder at lunch.
 
2022-08-19 9:18:26 AM  

bloobeary: Only a limited number of people:
the russian ambassador
the chinese ambassador
dumpy
lumpy
chumpy
dave, some guy who was looking for the bathroom and got lost
Mavis, from accounting
the kid who mows the lawn
Kid Rock


Don't forget the pool boy.
*NEVER* forget the pool boy. That motherfarker will steal your money, your stuff, your girl and/or turn you gay.
 
2022-08-19 9:18:34 AM  
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Oh that's a good one.

I had a client setting up a secure room to hold some government files they needed. They spent 6 months making space in a building compliant, complete with inspections during construction, and regular visits to make sure nothing changed... and that was NOT for TS/SCI documents.

You would have noticed lots of construction at Mar-a-Lardo to secure the basement for TS/SCI documents.
 
2022-08-19 9:19:18 AM  
Bobb, "Yes.. Mar-a-Lago is secure.. just getting on to the compound is hard.."

Every physical pen tester, "Hold my beer."
 
2022-08-19 9:19:32 AM  
I'm allowed to look at classified documents in my office. To get to my office requires me to use a proximity badge to open four different doors. One of those also requires a PIN. I have to pass a guard desk for visual verification. My office is one of many in a closed area. All my colleagues similarly have security clearances. And yet, even here, I am not allowed to leave such information unattended. If I want to take a dump, I have to either put them in a folder and keep them with me to the bathroom or lock those documents up in a safe (despite the fact that it's a locked area with limited access). When I'm done, they have to be locked up in an approved security container (an 800-pound safe with an X-09 combo lock). These spaces get inspected on a regular basis to ensure they're secure. The documents are inventoried and auditable.

So both my spaces and Mar-A-Lago's basement are both locked, have guards, and have limited access. The difference is, mine are actually secure and approved, and aren't just a basement with a padlock on the door and a bunch of banker boxes marked "PRESDENSHUL DOCUMENTS" and "RUSSIA HOAX STUFF" and "INTEL DOCS WITH COOL PIX".

Putting a lock on the door and having security DOES NOT make your facility approved to store classified material.
 
2022-08-19 9:20:08 AM  
The bigger question beyond "You Shouldn't even farking have that shiat there in the first place" is "What was the intent for removing the specific documents taken?"

If they all end up just being love letters from Un and others, then it's plausible that due to Dump's raging narcissism, he just wanted them for fap material.

If they do turn out to be nuke secrets, undercover agent rosters, and other highly damaging material if disclosed to anyone, then the only real possible conclusion is that he took that with the intent to leverage it to foreign adversaries for money.

If the former ends up being the case, he deserves a decade in prison and loss of all benefits becoming an ex-president, and hundreds of millions in fines, to be extracted from his properties, including Mar-a-Lardo.

If the latter can be proven, he deserves to fry, along with the loss of all of his assets, leaving his rotten family peniless.
 
2022-08-19 9:20:47 AM  
She was a JAG lawyer and then worked for OAN as an anchor.  That's why she has the job.  She has no experience in any area relevant to Trump.  He just liked her on TV.
 
2022-08-19 9:23:08 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm allowed to look at classified documents in my office. To get to my office requires me to use a proximity badge to open four different doors. One of those also requires a PIN. I have to pass a guard desk for visual verification. My office is one of many in a closed area. All my colleagues similarly have security clearances. And yet, even here, I am not allowed to leave such information unattended. If I want to take a dump, I have to either put them in a folder and keep them with me to the bathroom or lock those documents up in a safe (despite the fact that it's a locked area with limited access). When I'm done, they have to be locked up in an approved security container (an 800-pound safe with an X-09 combo lock). These spaces get inspected on a regular basis to ensure they're secure. The documents are inventoried and auditable.

So both my spaces and Mar-A-Lago's basement are both locked, have guards, and have limited access. The difference is, mine are actually secure and approved, and aren't just a basement with a padlock on the door and a bunch of banker boxes marked "PRESDENSHUL DOCUMENTS" and "RUSSIA HOAX STUFF" and "INTEL DOCS WITH COOL PIX".

Putting a lock on the door and having security DOES NOT make your facility approved to store classified material.


But wait.

Dump HEREBY declared the pool shed safe, so ipso facto E Pluribus Unum My Country 'Tis of Thee it's more secure than Fort Knox on the Moon.
 
2022-08-19 9:24:00 AM  
"Secure in the basement, huh?"
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2022-08-19 9:24:11 AM  
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2022-08-19 9:24:13 AM  
The crime isn't that Trump stored classified information improperly (which is probably true). The crime is that Trump took classified information from the white house and it didn't belong to him.
 
2022-08-19 9:25:33 AM  
There was a sign that said, "Beware of the Leopard".
 
2022-08-19 9:25:50 AM  
C'mon, even Drumpf's lawyers have got to know that's not going to float.

Drumpf saying that they were "secure" is not the same thing as how the government secures things.  It's not the same thing at all.  And Someone who is NOT the farking President, cannot decide which "limited number of people" are allowed to view the documents.

How this person could say this out loud, and expect that to be any sort of a legal defense, is mind boggling.

Except that it's NOT a legal defense. It is a defense for his supporters to hear.  And when it is legally rejected, as it should be, his supporters will see it as further evidence of persecution.
 
2022-08-19 9:26:01 AM  
Doesn't matter, the moment the TS docs left the SCIF they broke the law.
 
2022-08-19 9:26:07 AM  

1funguy: RasIanI: Then why is there any mystery - at all - about who the rat is?

If it was that secure you'd know exactly and immediately who the snitch was.

You're right, and not getting enough credit for this comment.


<clinks glass>
 
2022-08-19 9:26:17 AM  

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i was gonna make a joke about Peewee's bike being down there too, but this is so much better.
 
2022-08-19 9:26:30 AM  
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2022-08-19 9:27:13 AM  

bloobeary: Only a limited number of people:
the russian ambassador
the chinese ambassador
dumpy
lumpy
chumpy
dave, some guy who was looking for the bathroom and got lost
Mavis, from accounting
the kid who mows the lawn
Kid Rock


Don't forget russian hookers suspiciously showing up at 3am with a bottle of lube and a bag of hamberders.
 
2022-08-19 9:27:41 AM  
I think Trumps plan is to lie, claim he's the victim and hope his cult creates enough chaos that everyone will back down and leave him alone.
But that's already not working out for him.
 
2022-08-19 9:27:55 AM  
Maybe some time in a scif will serve as an education.
 
2022-08-19 9:29:22 AM  
He only let his closest friends see Americas secrets;

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