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2022-08-19 8:54:32 AM  
"David Ben... Gurion?" (calling

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2022-08-19 8:54:58 AM  

bostonguy: "David Ben... Gurion?" (calling

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(calling roll at the camp)
 
2022-08-19 8:55:48 AM  
By the way, I never saw any of the sequels or prequels or whatever they were.

Anyone know if they're worthwhile?
 
2022-08-19 9:17:55 AM  
Never seen WHAS, but the first time I got some over-the-pants action was at Jew summer camp.

CSB: at camp for two months the summer of my 14th year, I hit it off (so to speak) with a different girl each month (they were each only there for the month). The next summer, the two of them hooked up - and that was how I learned about bisexuality.

As I recall, there was a metric farkton of making out (or maybe I just had all the fun while the other guys were busy out-macho-ing each other. There were a LOT of assholes there - the camp was weighted heavily to New Yorkers, after all - so maybe no one wanted any part of them).

// CSB followup: one of those women is now an Orthodox Rabbi's wife, the other is ...well, let's say she is not any kind of Rabbi's wife
// I imagine it's much the same at any sleepaway camp - though I assume it's much tamer for Orthodox(ish) kids
// or it was, 30 years ago (before the kids got their dang-ol' internets and TokTiks)
 
2022-08-19 9:21:25 AM  

bostonguy: By the way, I never saw any of the sequels or prequels or whatever they were.

Anyone know if they're worthwhile?


The prequel and sequel are both pretty fun. They continue to poke fun at the summer camp movie tropes and found a good way of bullshiatting how the new actors in the prequel are there in the original movie.
 
2022-08-19 9:25:04 AM  
Meatballs > WHAS

"Even if God in Heaven Above comes down and points his hand at our side of the field; even if every man woman and child held hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't matter because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk because they've got all the money!"
 
2022-08-19 9:25:35 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Never seen WHAS, but the first time I got some over-the-pants action was at Jew summer camp.


Username checks out.

Also, I knew a ton of people in college who went to those summer camps. I stayed at a dorm my freshman year where everyone either knew each other from those camps or through those camps (i.e. "Did you know Josh S?" "YES! And he had horrible B.O.!" "I KNOW!!!"). In my legal career, I still come across it when certain attorneys are the same age and are chatting with each other.

It seems a very odd networking thing, from an outsider's POV.
 
2022-08-19 9:26:57 AM  
Aren't these the places that
Kars4kids fund?
 
2022-08-19 9:32:33 AM  
I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

I legit didn't know sleepaway summer camp was a real thing, I thought it was just an excuse for insane horror movies. They taught me all about camp and Cropsey, I yelled at them for running a plagiarism ring, good times.
 
2022-08-19 9:36:43 AM  

gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.


Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.
 
2022-08-19 9:37:49 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Never seen WHAS, but the first time I got some over-the-pants action was at Jew summer camp.

CSB: at camp for two months the summer of my 14th year, I hit it off (so to speak) with a different girl each month (they were each only there for the month). The next summer, the two of them hooked up - and that was how I learned about bisexuality.

As I recall, there was a metric farkton of making out (or maybe I just had all the fun while the other guys were busy out-macho-ing each other. There were a LOT of assholes there - the camp was weighted heavily to New Yorkers, after all - so maybe no one wanted any part of them).

// CSB followup: one of those women is now an Orthodox Rabbi's wife, the other is ...well, let's say she is not any kind of Rabbi's wife
// I imagine it's much the same at any sleepaway camp - though I assume it's much tamer for Orthodox(ish) kids
// or it was, 30 years ago (before the kids got their dang-ol' internets and TokTiks)


Well..... not that much different, at least the local Orthodox one I went to.
Not all the kids or staff were Orthodox, most fell somewhere on the "traditional, but the tradition I follow is Orthodox".
There were always the kids who hooked up. Usually the same ones, who rotated partners from summer to summer. One year my counselor spent most of the summer in his bed, with his girlfriend.
Of course this was a few decades ago... but I don't think it's changed much. My niece went there this past summer, and if I heard correctly, she had a boyfriend there.

Until WHAS came out, I used to say that the experience was a lot like Meatballs.
 
2022-08-19 9:44:23 AM  

bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.


Then again, Israelis always ask me all the time about New York City because many have no concept of how HUGE the United States is. Like, things I'd recommend doing there and so on. Because all Americans must be experts on New York City, and it's the only city that obviously matters in America.

I have to stop myself from shouting, "Most Americans know nothing about NYC! And I'm from Boston, which means I DESPISE NYC!"

/ sorry, had to vent
 
2022-08-19 9:47:52 AM  

bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.


One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?
 
2022-08-19 9:49:51 AM  

bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.


Two of my best friends in Israel are from Texas originally.
And my wife and I just moved to Georgia, big Jewish community in Atlanta. We joined a synagogue that's been here for decades.... some of the members are 5-6 generation. Hearing Hebrew with a southern accent is something else. (Especially Sephardi).


In other weird Jewish geography....
My mom's family is Sephardic, ie her Dad grew up in a Ladino speaking household*. She always finds it weird that most of the Spanish speaking Jews these days are Ashkenazic who immigrated to S. America from Europe.


*For those who don't know, Ladino is a Judeo-Spanish language spoken by Jews who left (re kicked out of) Spain during the inquisition and carried with them to parts of the middle east, generally, Greece, Turkey and the Balkans. It's mostly middle ages Castilian Spanish, mixed with some Hebrew and/or Greek, Turkish, Arabic or whatever the local language was where they lived. Similar in many regards to Yiddish.
 
2022-08-19 9:51:21 AM  
ummmm... 'sleepaway camp' was a slasher film... angela killed everyone.

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2022-08-19 9:52:43 AM  

gonegirl: One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?


Once in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA, two Mormon missionary boys approached me at a bus stop. After I told them that I was Jewish, they started looking at the top of my head and asked if I had horns.

Full. On. Dead. Serious.
 
2022-08-19 9:58:45 AM  

gonegirl: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?


Nope. Real thing.
In the bible when Moses came down from Mt. Sinai with the Ten Commandments, it says he had two "beams of light" coming out of his forehead. The word in Hebrew קרן (karan - long A) that means "beam" can also be read as "horns" if the vowels are changed (keren - short E).
Because of a translation error, many medieval artists depicted Moses with horns. And as these things go, it became part of Christian "lore" that Jews have horns. Didn't help dispel anti-Semitic rumors of being satanic or thinking that the Jewish head coverings (yarmulke or kipah) are to "hide" the horns.
 
2022-08-19 10:00:40 AM  

Outshined_One: It seems a very odd networking thing, from an outsider's POV.


Not only are the summer camps real, but the Jewish summer family resorts were real too.

Like, where the family stayed for the summer in Dirty Dancing and in one season of Mrs Maisel? "Going to the Catskills" was a thing back in the day. But I think most of them closed on the '70s or '80s.
 
2022-08-19 10:07:02 AM  

gonegirl: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?


Hopefully that was a Longhorns joke.
 
2022-08-19 10:07:12 AM  

Outshined_One: I stayed at a dorm my freshman year where everyone either knew each other from those camps or through those camps (i.e. "Did you know Josh S?" "YES! And he had horrible B.O.!" "I KNOW!!!").


LOL my roommate from yeshiva is a "Josh S" (totally 100% serious). No B.O., though.

...and in the first 5 minutes of meeting each other, we discovered that even though he went to a different camp and grew up 700 miles away from where I did, he was good friends with my neighbor and knew several of my HS classmates.

Jewish Geography is absolutely a thing. I think the only time it's ever failed for me was a guy who grew up in Texas with absolutely zero Jewish identity (beyond genetics and his name). I also have some hilarious "don't I know you from ...?" stories that could fill a thread all on their own. (I'd bet bostonguy and tjassen do as well - coincidences too silly to be fictional.)

// Josh and I remain good friends, several decades later
 
2022-08-19 10:11:51 AM  

tjassen: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

Two of my best friends in Israel are from Texas originally.
And my wife and I just moved to Georgia, big Jewish community in Atlanta. We joined a synagogue that's been here for decades.... some of the members are 5-6 generation. Hearing Hebrew with a southern accent is something else. (Especially Sephardi).


In other weird Jewish geography....
My mom's family is Sephardic, ie her Dad grew up in a Ladino speaking household*. She always finds it weird that most of the Spanish speaking Jews these days are Ashkenazic who immigrated to S. America from Europe.


*For those who don't know, Ladino is a Judeo-Spanish language spoken by Jews who left (re kicked out of) Spain during the inquisition and carried with them to parts of the middle east, generally, Greece, Turkey and the Balkans. It's mostly middle ages Castilian Spanish, mixed with some Hebrew and/or Greek, Turkish, Arabic or whatever the local language was where they lived. Similar in many regards to Yiddish.


New Orleans' Jewish community is pretty sizeable. I think it's entirely reform. Been to services in the synagogue a few times; the occasional funeral or bar/bat mitzvah.  It's gorgeous.

To my surprise, they have a "church" organ (for want of a better term).  I guess it's a type of assimilation or cultural borrowing, since we are in the deep South.  In any event, I found that fascinating, and wondered how common that is in the South.
 
2022-08-19 10:15:11 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Outshined_One: I stayed at a dorm my freshman year where everyone either knew each other from those camps or through those camps (i.e. "Did you know Josh S?" "YES! And he had horrible B.O.!" "I KNOW!!!").

LOL my roommate from yeshiva is a "Josh S" (totally 100% serious). No B.O., though.

...and in the first 5 minutes of meeting each other, we discovered that even though he went to a different camp and grew up 700 miles away from where I did, he was good friends with my neighbor and knew several of my HS classmates.

Jewish Geography is absolutely a thing. I think the only time it's ever failed for me was a guy who grew up in Texas with absolutely zero Jewish identity (beyond genetics and his name). I also have some hilarious "don't I know you from ...?" stories that could fill a thread all on their own. (I'd bet bostonguy and tjassen do as well - coincidences too silly to be fictional.)

// Josh and I remain good friends, several decades later


Yup. Jewish geography.
1.5 degrees of separation, no Bacon here.
 
2022-08-19 10:19:55 AM  

bostonguy: gonegirl: One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?

Once in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA, two Mormon missionary boys approached me at a bus stop. After I told them that I was Jewish, they started looking at the top of my head and asked if I had horns.

Full. On. Dead. Serious.



I've heard of people asking that as well. Not to the Jewish person's face, but to a third party after meeting our friend's Jewish wife.
 
2022-08-19 10:23:57 AM  

Sofa King Smart: ummmm... 'sleepaway camp' was a slasher film... angela killed everyone.


/ OMG SPOILERS
// she's also Bruce Springsteen's sister
 
2022-08-19 10:29:34 AM  

Marcos P: Aren't these the places that
Kars4kids fund?


Holy fark those commercials need to be banned.  I cannot change the channel fast enough.
 
2022-08-19 10:31:31 AM  

exqqqme: Meatballs > WHAS

"Even if God in Heaven Above comes down and points his hand at our side of the field; even if every man woman and child held hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't matter because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk because they've got all the money!"


"Is that a bra your wearing or are you expecting an assassination attempt?"

Side note:

Kristine DeBell was in an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland.
 
2022-08-19 10:36:12 AM  

bostonguy: Sofa King Smart: ummmm... 'sleepaway camp' was a slasher film... angela killed everyone.

/ OMG SPOILERS
// she's also Bruce Springsteen's sister


I'll give you a spoiler!

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2022-08-19 10:36:57 AM  

Dr Dreidel: The next summer, the two of them hooked up - and that was how I learned about bisexuality.


I have a friend from an extremely wealthy Ashkenazi Jewish family in Brazil, who has mostly lived in various places in South America. Her mother is from Toronto, and apparently she was shipped off to those camps when she was 11 - 14 because her mom had done the same thing and whatever enclave they're in doesn't have much of a selection they aren't already related to.

As an adult, she's never dated a girl but accord to her, the screwing around with the other girls at camp started about the third night of her first visit and never let up. She's very attractive but I really assumed she was being hyperbolic.

Also, she speaks English and Yiddish with the MOST stereotypical Fran Drescher accent, which is super weird when you know she's literally the girl from Ipanema.
 
2022-08-19 10:37:50 AM  
I went to and eventually worked at a YMCA camp in Point Judith, RI that had a sizable Jewish attendance rate. While it wasn't a Jewish camp there were enough that one of the musically talented people that went there did a parody of Adam Sandler's Hanukkah song and replaced all the names with people at the camp. Did a great job and it was always a hit when he played it. There were also a lot of international staff and campers that attended. I feel really lucky to have had the chance to go there because it gave me much exposure to people from different places and cultures that I never would have had at home.
 
2022-08-19 10:37:59 AM  

gonegirl: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?


My adopted Hispanic Jewish cousin grew up in Texas and still lives there. It probably wasn't.
 
2022-08-19 10:42:25 AM  

likefunbutnot: she speaks English and Yiddish with the MOST stereotypical Fran Drescher accent


that's my fetish
 
2022-08-19 10:55:43 AM  

tjassen: gonegirl: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?

Nope. Real thing.
In the bible when Moses came down from Mt. Sinai with the Ten Commandments, it says he had two "beams of light" coming out of his forehead. The word in Hebrew קרן (karan - long A) that means "beam" can also be read as "horns" if the vowels are changed (keren - short E).
Because of a translation error, many medieval artists depicted Moses with horns. And as these things go, it became part of Christian "lore" that Jews have horns. Didn't help dispel anti-Semitic rumors of being satanic or thinking that the Jewish head coverings (yarmulke or kipah) are to "hide" the horns.


Is that why everyone at those camps is horny?
 
2022-08-19 10:56:34 AM  

Sofa King Smart: ummmm... 'sleepaway camp' was a slasher film... angela killed everyone.

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Yep - that's Bruce Springsteen's younger sister
 
2022-08-19 11:01:23 AM  

bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.


Galveston, TX was a port of entry for the jewish migration before WW2
 
2022-08-19 11:04:52 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Jewish Geography is absolutely a thing.


Heh. I'm very familiar with the concept (and in a non-Jewish context too!)

I've never heard it called that before though.
 
2022-08-19 11:39:44 AM  
tjassen:

Well..... not that much different, at least the local Orthodox one I went to.
Not all the kids or staff were Orthodox, most fell somewhere on the "traditional, but the tradition I follow is Orthodox".
There were always the kids who hooked up. Usually the same ones, who rotated partners from summer to summer. One year my counselor spent most of the summer in his bed, with his girlfriend.
Of course this was a few decades ago... but I don't think it's changed much. My niece went there this past summer, and if I heard correctly, she had a boyfriend there.

Until WHAS came out, I used to say that the experience was a lot like Meatballs.


Growing up in Manhattan all of my friends were Jewish, because we were the "other" Christians and we generally associated with families from that wave of immigration: Other Greeks, Poles, Balkans, Jews, Italians. So I went to both major NYC Jewish sleepaway camps: Racquette Lake and Androscoggin.  I and my younger were usually the only Christian kid there, besides an unlucky fellow from Oslo whose family must have just been desperate to get him out of the city in Summertime, and this Saudi kid whose dad worked at the embassy and must have been trying to acculterate his kid to Jewish people in general.

Every year I farking begged my dad for a "coming of age" party like the Bar Mitzvahs all my friends had, and invited each other to, it crushed me that Greeks had nothing like that and that I was never going to be a "man" in any official ceremony, or get a farking Roland keyboard and a new car one summer lol.

I had a great time, but 200 tween/teen kids in an all-boy environment was farking insane and borderline lethal at times.  The counselors were there to herd us around the most life-threatening obstacles by day, and steal booze from by night.

It was glorious, if confusing as hell.
 
2022-08-19 11:48:30 AM  

gonegirl: bostonguy: gonegirl: I taught a Jewish Studies class one semester at a midwestern university, and I suddenly had three classes almost entirely made up of WAY more East Coast Jews than I had been aware even attended the school.

Once in a while, I'll meet an American Jewish person here in Israel who says they're originally from Georgia or Texas or somewhere like that.

I think it takes me a minute to process that because it just sounds so absurd at first.

One of my students told me that she had considered attending UT-Austin, but when she toured there, she asked if there were any Jewish sororities, and her tour guide responded with, "Oh, gosh, are you Jewish? Where are your horns?"

Presumably a joke?


I'm the Shabbos Goy/doorman/security guy at a very rich condo building. Jewish only. Now I'm a 6'1", blonde haired and blue eyed half german/half brit protestant guy. Someone (plural?), somewhere in my ancestry was definitely involved in the Holocaust. Don't know who, but... yeah. There's a 92 year old concentration camp survivor that I see every shift. She knows my ancestry, and still treats me with kindness, class and honestly, with love. I take out her garbage and unpack her groceries, She gives me a chocolate bar (not asked for, and usually given to my GF) and then talks to me while she does her 30-45 mins with her walker around the lobby.
Yeah, fark anybody who is anti-Semitic.
I'm anti-aholes, and they can come from any group.
But mostly from "my" group, in my experience. When it's just "us" behind closed doors, it's mind boggling how quickly the bigotry comes out. The amount of fights I've gotten into.... Well, I'm no longer invited to certain "us" events.
 
2022-08-19 11:53:04 AM  

monkeyboycjc: I'm anti-aholes, and they can come from any group.
But mostly from "my" group, in my experience. When it's just "us" behind closed doors, it's mind boggling how quickly the bigotry comes out.


I hear you, bro.

I've been in circles of people where they don't know I'm Jewish and everyone starts making Jewish jokes.

On the other hand, I have ex-friends here in Israel -- far-right Kahanist people -- who say vile things about "the Arabs" among themselves. Whenever I asked how they feel when people say those things about Jews, they would get so pissed off at me.
 
2022-08-19 12:09:06 PM  

JustMatt: I went to and eventually worked at a YMCA camp in Point Judith, RI that had a sizable Jewish attendance rate. While it wasn't a Jewish camp there were enough that one of the musically talented people that went there did a parody of Adam Sandler's Hanukkah song and replaced all the names with people at the camp. Did a great job and it was always a hit when he played it. There were also a lot of international staff and campers that attended. I feel really lucky to have had the chance to go there because it gave me much exposure to people from different places and cultures that I never would have had at home.


True. Where else are you going to hear a grown man mumble a plan for his sweaters.

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2022-08-19 12:41:41 PM  

The_Sponge: Side note:

Kristine DeBell was in an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland.


The Rialto Report did a couple of essays on that movie.

A behind the scenes/what really went on during filming.

A revisiting of the shooting locations more or less recently

Lots of interesting stories/podcasts/etc there for anyone who has an interest in The Golden Age

/NSFW
//alas all my summer camps were off with the Boy Scouts.  Great times but none of the shenanigans of the coed types (well, nothing that I participated in anyway ... there were a couple of guys who 'always' shared a tent together - shrug, none of my business)
 
2022-08-19 12:44:21 PM  

Recoil Therapy: The_Sponge: Side note:

Kristine DeBell was in an X-rated version of Alice in Wonderland.

The Rialto Report did a couple of essays on that movie.

A behind the scenes/what really went on during filming.

A revisiting of the shooting locations more or less recently

Lots of interesting stories/podcasts/etc there for anyone who has an interest in The Golden Age

/NSFW
//alas all my summer camps were off with the Boy Scouts.  Great times but none of the shenanigans of the coed types (well, nothing that I participated in anyway ... there were a couple of guys who 'always' shared a tent together - shrug, none of my business)


Wow....thanks for sharing that.

/Went to a Presbyterian summer camp for a week when I was 14.
//Whitest thing I have ever done.
///Beats out windsurfing and going to a Jimmy Buffett concert.
 
2022-08-19 12:54:25 PM  
I worked one summer at a camp that, while not really a Jewish camp, it was a kosher one within the orbit of NYC, so there were a fair number of Jewish kids. There were like three Jewish counselors total.

It felt like everyone but me got laid. It was weird; Two weeks in the first couple was the talk of the camp, by the end of camp almost everyone was with someone. At some point the camp had rules against relationships between counselors that worked about as well as abstinence education. By the time I worked there they told us if you wanted to go fark, do it deep in the woods somewhere.

I managed to not get laid by having one of the hardest, most time-consuming jobs on camp (Video Arts Specialist, simultaneously a teacher with some after-work editing, a part-time cabin counselor, and one of only two people making a "slideshow," which was a movie-length reel of the camp that was made up mainly of several thousand photos shown for about three seconds each that took all the time in the world to make). That job was clearly the victim of mission creep and supervisors who had no idea. There was talk of making it a three-person job next year instead of two. My ADD made it so much harder.

Despite this, or maybe because of it, I managed to have a trainwreck of a relationship-like thing with one of my fellow counselors that was assigned to the same cabin as me. I'll spare y'all the pitiful details, but I didn't get laid with that, either.
 
2022-08-19 2:13:07 PM  
It was hard to accept the fact that there were Jews from the South and Mid-West until I met a few.
So, one Passover, during "discussion", I brought up the fact that since there were Jews in the South pre-Civil War, that they owned slaves. That didn't go over too well.
 
2022-08-19 2:16:20 PM  
Never knew it was a thing until Elliott (from Elliott in the morning) kept talking about he jewish boys learned to jerk off with all the other boys at jewish summer camps.  Near a topic at least once a month on his show.
 
2022-08-19 2:21:31 PM  

dereksmalls: It was hard to accept the fact that there were Jews from the South and Mid-West until I met a few.
So, one Passover, during "discussion", I brought up the fact that since there were Jews in the South pre-Civil War, that they owned slaves. That didn't go over too well.


I think there is a survey of that somewhere.

Even more mind blowing; there is another survey listing all the Black slave holders (Hint, they were concentrated around Charleston and New Orleans).
 
2022-08-19 3:01:32 PM  

toetag: Never knew it was a thing until Elliott (from Elliott in the morning) kept talking about he jewish boys learned to jerk off with all the other boys at jewish summer camps.  Near a topic at least once a month on his show.


Damn. Elliot's show is still going on. I used to listen it on DC101 when I lived in the DC area.
 
2022-08-19 3:52:47 PM  

SPARC Pile: toetag: Never knew it was a thing until Elliott (from Elliott in the morning) kept talking about he jewish boys learned to jerk off with all the other boys at jewish summer camps.  Near a topic at least once a month on his show.

Damn. Elliot's show is still going on. I used to listen it on DC101 when I lived in the DC area.


I was his intern for a few months, back when Flounder was still around.

// speaking of Jewish geography...
 
2022-08-19 3:59:30 PM  
I went to conservative Christian summer camps.

They were not fun.
 
2022-08-19 4:02:40 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: I went to conservative Christian summer camps.

They were not fun.


COME TO THE DARK SIDE

/ phrasing
 
2022-08-19 5:26:48 PM  

bostonguy: monkeyboycjc: I'm anti-aholes, and they can come from any group.
But mostly from "my" group, in my experience. When it's just "us" behind closed doors, it's mind boggling how quickly the bigotry comes out.

I hear you, bro.

I've been in circles of people where they don't know I'm Jewish and everyone starts making Jewish jokes.

On the other hand, I have ex-friends here in Israel -- far-right Kahanist people -- who say vile things about "the Arabs" among themselves. Whenever I asked how they feel when people say those things about Jews, they would get so pissed off at me.


fark Kahanists!
 
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