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(Yahoo)   Nothing says "military victory is close at hand" more than hiring organized crime to find jailed murderers so you can use them to keep your soldiers in line   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2447 clicks; posted to Politics » on 19 Aug 2022 at 7:04 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-19 11:50:12 AM  
To be fair, using this sort of element in their armed force isn't exactly out of character, even in 'peace time.' It's also not entirely out of character for Putin to rely on his own private military force to get stuff done that needs awfully wet and dirty hands, with a certain degree of deniability. I mean, besides being a paramilitary that pretty much is Putin's Brute Squad.
 
2022-08-19 4:46:29 PM  
Just lose already, you farking loser. You're the little shiat that throws rocks at people because they're happier than you. fark off. The world is sick of you and everyone like you.
 
2022-08-19 7:07:21 PM  
How's that "Strong Russian Leader" working out for you, Russia?
 
2022-08-19 7:07:57 PM  
Wait, you are going to try and intimidate the military, in a war zone, with criminals?  Umm...

Criminals: "Hey, you get to fighting or els..."

*blam*

Soldiers:  "Or else what?"
 
2022-08-19 7:09:48 PM  
Ugh, another Trump tell-all book?
 
2022-08-19 7:10:01 PM  
I would like to know who will be playing the part of Harley Quinn in Putin's version of Suicide Squad.
 
2022-08-19 7:12:42 PM  
Is this an edgy Dirty Dozen reboot?
 
2022-08-19 7:14:21 PM  
Literally war criminals
 
2022-08-19 7:14:37 PM  
You will never see a more wretched example of scummy villainous policy than this. . .

Wait, Obi-wan, did you see this latest tweet?
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What the hell could be next? Putin is running out of space between enlisting murderers in his private monster army and just tossing nukes around.
 
2022-08-19 7:14:43 PM  
State sponsor of terrorism
 
2022-08-19 7:16:09 PM  

vrax: Wait, you are going to try and intimidate the military, in a war zone, with criminals?  Umm...

Criminals: "Hey, you get to fighting or els..."

*blam*

Soldiers:  "Or else what?"


Yeah I don't think they'd need the criminals if their soldiers had that mentality
 
2022-08-19 7:16:48 PM  
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2022-08-19 7:17:21 PM  
I don't think being an actual psychopath is a good defense against being shot or blown up.
 
2022-08-19 7:22:15 PM  
Hopefully these bratva enforcers will be introduced to the concept of fragging. Either by Russian soldiers or Ukrainian bombs.
 
2022-08-19 7:22:42 PM  
Red Alert III
Flaktrooper:. Wait til I get these chains off
 
2022-08-19 7:22:57 PM  
This puts a somewhat sobering perspective on killing every Russian in sight. A lot of them don't want to be there and are effectively slaves. Ukraine can't pull its punches because this is an existential struggle, but I hope they take prisoners wherever possible. And nobody should be giggling when a Ukrainian drone drops a grenade on some poor bastard sitting in a trench because Wagner beat him until he complied. Just win and get this war over as soon as possible.
 
2022-08-19 7:27:41 PM  
Yes, by all means, start killing your own soldiers. Please, this is a favor to... well, everyone in the world. The more dead orcs the better and it doesn't really matter if it's orc on orc violence.

/Please proceed, governor.
 
2022-08-19 7:27:43 PM  

derpes_simplex: Literally war criminals


They'll be in good company.
 
2022-08-19 7:29:43 PM  
Beyond disgusting.

And they are blessed by their own church. Lovely.

I just hate this.
 
2022-08-19 7:31:19 PM  
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And here is a picture of Putin's future Politruks Commissars Encouragement Officers.
 
2022-08-19 7:32:04 PM  

Nurglitch: I don't think being an actual psychopath is a good defense against being shot or blown up.


If anything, they'll get more Russian troops killed. Psychopaths only have loyalty to themselves. They will cut and run at the first opportunity. Sure, they might be killers... but they're killers when they have the upper hand and the element of surprise. They sure as hell aren't interested in a fair fight
 
2022-08-19 7:32:43 PM  
Murderer: How is killing my neighbor because he looked at me funny once going to help me in battle?
Zapp Putin: Don't ask me; you're the one who's going to be dying.
 
2022-08-19 7:34:07 PM  
War is....hell, I can't remember how that saying ends.
 
2022-08-19 7:34:26 PM  
Sergei gets what's going on.
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2022-08-19 7:34:27 PM  
Yes, failed criminals who are so bad at it or awful to be around that they got caught in a kleptostate and convicted are ideal soldiers.
 
2022-08-19 7:36:35 PM  

miscreant: Nurglitch: I don't think being an actual psychopath is a good defense against being shot or blown up.

If anything, they'll get more Russian troops killed. Psychopaths only have loyalty to themselves. They will cut and run at the first opportunity. Sure, they might be killers... but they're killers when they have the upper hand and the element of surprise. They sure as hell aren't interested in a fair fight


Not if they motivate the Emperor's penal legions with explosive collars.
 
2022-08-19 7:37:08 PM  
didn't the they do this in ww2 as well used criminal as front line troops to take the 1st wave of bullet or to run into mine fields as well?
 
2022-08-19 7:37:14 PM  
I guess we'll all be treated to see the monument to the criminals who saved Russia from shame.

Move over  boys, Putin has one more new medal for Russia's finest.

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2022-08-19 7:39:00 PM  
So, just a pro tip in case anybody is stupid to threaten to kill you.

You are entitled to kill him back. First.

I'm not encouraging violence, quite the contrary.

It doesn't matter to you who kills you. But, if that is an authentic threat, that is an actual attempt. Don't give them another chance.

And he won't threaten anyone else after that either.
 
2022-08-19 7:40:46 PM  
Good luck with that pooty, why not just send serial killers and pedos while you are at it.
 
2022-08-19 7:40:53 PM  

jjorsett: This puts a somewhat sobering perspective on killing every Russian in sight. A lot of them don't want to be there and are effectively slaves. Ukraine can't pull its punches because this is an existential struggle, but I hope they take prisoners wherever possible. And nobody should be giggling when a Ukrainian drone drops a grenade on some poor bastard sitting in a trench because Wagner beat him until he complied. Just win and get this war over as soon as possible.


I will dehumanize Russian soldiers and enjoy every one of their deaths so long as they are invaders butchering people who were no threat to them.  They are not slaves while they're armed, they can kill their officers and turn back and kill Putin.  They are choosing to go along with this war even though the Ukrainians are certainly doing a better job of killing them than Putin could.
 
2022-08-19 7:44:21 PM  

BitwiseShift: I guess we'll all be treated to see the monument to the criminals who saved Russia from shame.

Move over  boys, Putin has one more new medal for Russia's finest.

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Apart from being an apparatchik in Россуя how in the heck do you get that many medals? Did you give them to yourself?
 
2022-08-19 7:44:23 PM  
The Wagner Group. Figures.

This is our future if we don't shut down Erik Prince.
 
2022-08-19 7:44:32 PM  
Russia is a dead man walking.  They're practically down to boys and old men fighting with 19th Century weapons with sociopaths holding holding guns to their heads and ripping their toenails out in dark basements if they try to go AWOL.
 
2022-08-19 7:44:52 PM  

Dodo David: I would like to know who will be playing the part of Harley Quinn in Putin's version of Suicide Squad.


Unfortunately it will be Maria Butina.
 
2022-08-19 7:51:28 PM  

Halfabee64: Russia is a dead man walking.  They're practically down to boys and old men fighting with 19th Century weapons with sociopaths holding holding guns to their heads and ripping their toenails out in dark basements if they try to go AWOL.


Russia the state (and the culture) needs to be put down.  It's regrettable that political reality means Ukraine is the one paying the blood price to do it.  We're going to owe them for at least a generation after it is done.
 
2022-08-19 7:53:27 PM  
Nearly six months into Russia's bloody war against Ukraine, it appears Vladimir Putinhas pinned his hopes for claiming victory on a self-described "organized crime syndicate" that is now trawling prisons for cold-blooded killers and deploying mercenaries to straighten out fed-up troops.

Oh yeah. No. No this won't possibly end insanely badly for Russia. Certainly no guarantee these farknuts commit war crimes that get smashed into Puntin's skull like a 2x4, nope!
 
2022-08-19 7:53:38 PM  

Halfabee64: Russia is a dead man walking.  They're practically down to boys and old men fighting with 19th Century weapons with sociopaths holding holding guns to their heads and ripping their toenails out in dark basements if they try to go AWOL.


And nukes, if they can get them off the ground.
 
2022-08-19 7:55:19 PM  

maldinero: Sergei gets what's going on.
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At least put the quote up

"Do you understand that we're really the fascists?" Sergei recalled telling a fellow soldier. "He said, 'I was scared to say the same thing to you, I thought you'd shoot me. Yes, we're the fascists, and I realize that."
 
2022-08-19 7:55:31 PM  

Phaedrus the Vague: Murderer: How is killing my neighbor because he looked at me funny once going to help me in battle?
Zapp Putin: Don't ask me; you're the one who's going to be dying.


FTFA: Wagner representatives had told prisoners they'd be back for another visit in two or three months if they "run out" of inmates from the first wave of recruitment.

Yeah, that's comforting.
 
2022-08-19 8:00:25 PM  

BitwiseShift: I guess we'll all be treated to see the monument to the criminals who saved Russia from shame.

Move over  boys, Putin has one more new medal for Russia's finest.

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I got this one for pitching a tent! And this one for building a campfire...and this one...
 
2022-08-19 8:01:17 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Phaedrus the Vague: Murderer: How is killing my neighbor because he looked at me funny once going to help me in battle?
Zapp Putin: Don't ask me; you're the one who's going to be dying.

FTFA: Wagner representatives had told prisoners they'd be back for another visit in two or three months if they "run out" of inmates from the first wave of recruitment.

Yeah, that's comforting.


In other words, they promise an amazing retirement package.
 
2022-08-19 8:05:14 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Halfabee64: Russia is a dead man walking.  They're practically down to boys and old men fighting with 19th Century weapons with sociopaths holding holding guns to their heads and ripping their toenails out in dark basements if they try to go AWOL.

And nukes, if they can get them off the ground.


The solid fuel ICBMs they've converted to space launch rockets have been fairly reliable.  I wonder more about how many will fizzle from piss-poor tritium maintenance.
 
2022-08-19 8:09:13 PM  

Iczer: Nearly six months into Russia's bloody war against Ukraine, it appears Vladimir Putinhas pinned his hopes for claiming victory on a self-described "organized crime syndicate" that is now trawling prisons for cold-blooded killers and deploying mercenaries to straighten out fed-up troops.

Oh yeah. No. No this won't possibly end insanely badly for Russia. Certainly no guarantee these farknuts commit war crimes that get smashed into Puntin's skull like a 2x4, nope!


Or the soldiers just realize "Hey, why are we letting this jagoff boss us around, there's 100 of us, there's only one of him."
 
2022-08-19 8:09:57 PM  
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2022-08-19 8:10:50 PM  

vrax: Wait, you are going to try and intimidate the military, in a war zone, with criminals?  Umm...

Criminals: "Hey, you get to fighting or els..."

*blam*

Soldiers:  "Or else what?"


"Da, comrade Commander. Those crafty Ukrainian dogs just keep knocking off those Wagner Group "motivators" as soon as they get here. Snipe them, explode them, they even stole one of our OWN military vehicles and ran the last one over. It's uncanny! They really got it out for those guys, you probably shouldn't send any more of them."


This is a pretty bad sign of desperation for Russia. They CAN'T win here anymore, they can only lose more or less gracefully. They're past the point of no return on the war, even if they win they'll just get some more land and a few people who will hate them (more) deeply, probably for generations. They're going to have to bomb anything in Ukraine more valuable than land itself into dust. It'd be a great time to convince somebody else to open up a second front against Russia. They're getting pretty damned weak. They can barely handle what they've already got on their plate. A good kick in a sensitive spot by someone else, would be great for Ukraine.

Also... Maybe the UN should think about expelling Russia.
 
2022-08-19 8:13:42 PM  
Historically speaking: Criminals make terrible soldiers.

If you don't even follow the law, you probably aren't good at following orders.
 
2022-08-19 8:32:53 PM  
Let's see, I am a Russian criminal stuck in a Russian prison camp with a long sentence. I am offered full amnesty if I join the military and fight Ukraine. Then once I get to the front, fully pardoned, I surrender to Ukrainian forces for the reward money and pardon from them. Then with a clean record and enough money to start over an honest life, I move somewhere and do it.
 
2022-08-19 8:35:43 PM  
The beatings will continue until moral improves!
 
2022-08-19 8:42:00 PM  
Well, they can't use geo-fenced explosive collars

The Ruzzian GPS equivalent i(GLONASS/0 s too unreliable (which is why there are stories of pilots navagating by cell phone GPS), and if they use the US system, someone could 'accidentally' add in a 100 km error momentarily and major swaths of orcs would just blow up.
 
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