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(Yahoo)   Utah school investigates girl's gender history back to kindergarten after sore loserparents protest her victory at state championship   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-08-19 6:18:32 AM  
I married a d1 glamazon.  Some girls are freaks of nature.

There are interesting legal questions that can arise.
 
2022-08-19 6:44:58 AM  
Accusing competitors of not being the gender they present is the new "the refs/coaches were conspiring against my precious".

When I was living as a male and lifting weights all the time there were at least three or four women who could reguarly out lift the majority of males in the gym. Some human bodies are just different that way. They can and often do perform way beyond their physical apperance.
 
2022-08-19 7:07:11 AM  
I would go librarian poo on them
 
2022-08-19 7:43:36 AM  
This is why school board elections are important.  The correct response is to tell the parents to go fark themselves.
 
2022-08-19 7:44:39 AM  
Not that the bill should actually exist in the first place, but I would like to believe it has provisions which state that anyone who makes a false complaint against another competitor in this regard should have to a) pay the full expense of whatever investigation occurs, and b) have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.
 
2022-08-19 7:59:14 AM  

CoonAce: I married a d1 glamazon.  Some girls are freaks of nature.

There are interesting legal questions that can arise.


Go take a look at /r/fitandnatural over on Reddit and do a search for "Volleyball" if you want to see a busload of glamazons.
 
2022-08-19 8:02:40 AM  
I can't figure out what I was doing in Utah this morning.
 
2022-08-19 8:10:05 AM  

Singleballtheory: Not that the bill should actually exist in the first place, but I would like to believe it has provisions which state that anyone who makes a false complaint against another competitor in this regard should have to a) pay the full expense of whatever investigation occurs, and b) have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.


and c) jump into a pit of acid.
 
2022-08-19 8:23:27 AM  

Singleballtheory: Not that the bill should actually exist in the first place, but I would like to believe it has provisions which state that anyone who makes a false complaint against another competitor in this regard should have to a) pay the full expense of whatever investigation occurs, and b) have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.


Worse:  Announce over the school loudspeakers explaining how little Keighjleighv's parents couldn't fathom how their little princess could be thoroughly owned in athletic competition.
 
2022-08-19 8:41:56 AM  
This is a reminder that in a lot of red states the rapepublican party has also proposed or passed laws allowing "people" to inspect the genitals of kids to "verify gender"...


Grand ol' Pedophiles and groomers galore
 
2022-08-19 8:51:14 AM  

CoonAce: I married a d1 glamazon.  Some girls are freaks of nature.

There are interesting legal questions that can arise.


I, for one, congratulate you on your eventual death by snu snu
 
2022-08-19 8:55:46 AM  
This is Mormon Utah and they only checked back as far as kindergarten.  Shouldn't the y have gone back further into her previous lives.
 
2022-08-19 9:07:50 AM  

Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.


Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.
 
2022-08-19 9:33:55 AM  

Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.


So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.
 
2022-08-19 9:36:40 AM  
I have 2 daughters.  If some dude from the school came to me and said "I need to verify that your daughter is a girl", Im pretty sure he would end up with a bloody nose.   I dont care if you send the school nurse, still aint gonna happen.  This is sexual exploitation no matter how you look at it.
 
2022-08-19 9:41:47 AM  
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2022-08-19 9:43:57 AM  

tobcc: I have 2 daughters.  If some dude from the school came to me and said "I need to verify that your daughter is a girl", Im pretty sure he would end up with a bloody nose.   I dont care if you send the school nurse, still aint gonna happen.  This is sexual exploitation no matter how you look at it.


That's not what happened here. No one was physically checking anyones gender.

This law is disgusting and anyone who invokes it is an asshole.

As for this story, it's nice that the parents that protested have to live with the fact that their little cherub just isn't that good at whatever sport this involved. They're not getting that D1 scholarship and your kid is mediocre at best.
 
2022-08-19 9:48:40 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.

So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.


That's my initial problem with this whole scenario. It's a child, not an adult. She is getting punished for being a better athlete, I don't disagree with that. That is the initial outrage which has been covered.  The parents who called for the investigation are assholes, this doesn't make their kids assholes as well. Why should their kids be barred from competition? That's too far. They didn't do anything wrong. Making a kid suffer because their parents are assholes is farking evil behavior.
 
2022-08-19 10:11:25 AM  
Did I miss the sport?  All I got was "a girl left her competitors in the dust at a state-level school sports competition".  I'm guessing track.  Did the article say it and I can't reed gud today?
 
2022-08-19 10:16:01 AM  

Aezetyr: AppleOptionEsc: Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.

So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.

That's my initial problem with this whole scenario. It's a child, not an adult. She is getting punished for being a better athlete, I don't disagree with that. That is the initial outrage which has been covered.  The parents who called for the investigation are assholes, this doesn't make their kids assholes as well. Why should their kids be barred from competition? That's too far. They didn't do anything wrong. Making a kid suffer because their parents are assholes is farking evil behavior.


No, just assholes in training.

Sadly, their kids have assholes for role models.
 
2022-08-19 10:21:45 AM  
There's your party of "small government" folks. The government is too big and powerful and needs to be taken down a notch! Oh, except we totally allow it to dig back through your private school records and/or medical history to verify your gender in case we want to ban you from participating in sports.

Hypocrites. Hypocrites and assholes as far as the eye can see.
 
2022-08-19 12:54:39 PM  
she forgot her magic underwear
 
2022-08-19 1:19:23 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.

So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.


Just ban the parents from all of their kid's future events.

Just because they hurt someone else's kid doesn't mean you have to hurt their kid. Try to be better than sh*tty people.

/plus the kid already has to grow up with sh*tty parents - having them spend MORE time with their parents is not a good outcome.
 
2022-08-19 1:36:11 PM  
20 bucks says the parents demanding the investigation also preach about the importance of not giving participation trophies and that kids are too soft these days cause everyone is special and no one has to earn it.
 
2022-08-19 1:45:11 PM  

Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.


That's similar to what is happening with school lunches.  Parents are poor (obviously they aren't trying hard enough) so kids don't get food.
 
2022-08-19 1:56:04 PM  
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2022-08-19 2:21:40 PM  

OhioUGrad: This is a reminder that in a lot of red states the rapepublican party has also proposed or passed laws allowing "people" to inspect the genitals of kids to "verify gender"...


Grand ol' Pedophiles and groomers galore


Oh God, penis inspection day is a real thing now? I hate this timeline.
 
2022-08-19 2:26:34 PM  

GoldSpider: This is why school board elections are important.  The correct response is to tell the parents to go fark themselves.


School boards can't overrule state laws.
 
2022-08-19 2:28:22 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.

So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.


The solution to kids getting punished isn't to punish more kids for fark's sake.
 
2022-08-19 2:41:30 PM  
This is exactly why such laws/rules should not be allowed, helicopter parents are going to use them (as designed) any time their precious snowflake loses at what ever sport they compete in rather than have to admit their kid lost fair and square.
 
2022-08-20 1:00:42 PM  

meanmutton: AppleOptionEsc: Aezetyr: Singleballtheory: have their own child/children barred from future competition as a result.

Absolutely not. Do not punish children for a parent's mistake.

So the kid being investigated right now isn't being punished? fark it, one sided dystopia is bullshiat. You have shiat parents? Get shiat on life. At 18 you can disown them and let them live their miserable lives. Stick em in a home that never passes inspection.

The solution to kids getting punished isn't to punish more kids for fark's sake.


Feel free to offer a solution that would actually make parents think twice about this sort of behavior then. When it comes to these matters the children are pawns regardless. It is nearly impossible to separate the player (ie, the parents) from their pieces (ie, their children). Bar the parents from attending games/events? That's punitive towards the child. Fine the parents? That could be deemed punitive towards the child as well, as in, now the parents lack the monetary means to support their child's athletic endeavors. See the dilemma?

There's essentially no punishment that can be done to the parents which cannot or would not be passed down to their child. So my personal stance is that you're either aiming for arguably the one and only thing which will force parents to give pause to their actions, or you're conceding the fight to people who are effectively using their children as human shields and are quite frankly banking on the idea that you'll care more about repurcussions getting passed down to their offspring than they do.
 
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