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(MSN)   Fidel De Santis announces the his Voter Suppression Police have claimed their first victims, charging 20 former felons with voting illegally. Oddly all of them from Democratic stronghold counties in Florida   (msn.com) divider line
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1688 clicks; posted to Politics » on 18 Aug 2022 at 7:12 PM (15 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-18 6:02:34 PM  
Can't wait for it to be revealed that these convicts didn't vote, that they either filled out a provisional ballot that was rejected or that someone with the same name as them voted
 
2022-08-18 6:04:50 PM  
Either way, all citizens 17 or older should have the right to vote regardless of felon status, otherwise it creates an incentive for the incumbent to jail as many of the opponent's base as possible.
 
2022-08-18 7:11:39 PM  
Meanwhile, who CARES about the people in The Villages who voted multiple tomes.
 
2022-08-18 7:14:19 PM  

This Is Bold Text: Either way, all citizens 17 or older should have the right to vote regardless of felon status, otherwise it creates an incentive for the incumbent to jail as many of the opponent's base as possible.


Then change those laws.

Meanwhile, the governor can justify the millions in funding for this office to produce 20 arrests statewide.
 
2022-08-18 7:15:05 PM  
Probably cost taxpayers a few million per arrest to fund his votestapo.
 
2022-08-18 7:15:34 PM  
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2022-08-18 7:16:08 PM  
Let's see. Florida voted to let former felons have voting rights back. Their state countered back no. They persisted. The state said ok but only if they paid all their fines off but it's totally not a poll tax. These'll probably end up being felons that paid their fines but desantis claimed $6 of interest is unaccounted for.
 
2022-08-18 7:16:58 PM  
This... This is why I went full Eeyore a couple of days ago when that poll came out showing Demmings leading Rubio.
 
2022-08-18 7:17:25 PM  
"'Florida voters lifted the ban for all other offenses in 2018"

Didn't Republicans then rewrite the rules saying that they had to have paid all of their fines and attorney's fees and jump through a bunch of other hoops?

Man, BTW...it's a good thing that every single person they arrested happened to be either murderers or sex criminals that they picked up in Democratic strongholds. Now that they're gone, there's no reason to create a BS narrative that Democrats home violent hip hop thugs and groomers! *phew*
 
2022-08-18 7:18:08 PM  
I bet a statewide audit would show 90% of the violators are..

You know.
 
2022-08-18 7:18:17 PM  
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2022-08-18 7:20:41 PM  
Nazi-type governing detected
 
2022-08-18 7:21:05 PM  
The paying off debt/fines thing is dumb. Most people with debt/fines are still allowed to vote. If you are released from prison, you are back in society, period. The second you get out whatever rights you lost should be restored automatically with no bureaucratic bullshiat.
 
2022-08-18 7:21:36 PM  
Oh quit your whining.  If we let everyone vote in the People's Republic of farkwittery we might end up with something close to democracy, and that ain't ever happening.  One Reich, One People, One Fuhrer.
 
2022-08-18 7:26:34 PM  

Karma Chameleon: The paying off debt/fines thing is dumb. Most people with debt/fines are still allowed to vote. If you are released from prison, you are back in society, period. The second you get out whatever rights you lost should be restored automatically with no bureaucratic bullshiat.


It's also dumb because they can't even tell people what they owe.  They have no system or records for it.
 
2022-08-18 7:27:02 PM  

Nah'mean: This... This is why I went full Eeyore a couple of days ago when that poll came out showing Demmings leading Rubio.


The only way it makes a big.enough difference is if they ban women from voting, which would be an awesome look.

And before you talk about them just changing the results... I have no doubt a few people may try. And a few people will be indicted for election fraud very quickly. This isn't something people are not paying attention to right now.
 
2022-08-18 7:27:07 PM  
Sorry, but at the very least, once people have served their time, there should absolutely be no barriers to voting.
 
2022-08-18 7:27:30 PM  

almandot: Let's see. Florida voted to let former felons have voting rights back. Their state countered back no. They persisted. The state said ok but only if they paid all their fines off but it's totally not a poll tax. These'll probably end up being felons that paid their fines but desantis claimed $6 of interest is unaccounted for.


It is worse than that, it is nearly impossible to find out how much you owe or prove that all the fines and fees were paid. Each individual county has its own courts' costs and system for records keeping that don't talk to a state database. Some fines are waived by seving additional time or the penalty for a crime is 180 days OR $5,000 and the person chooses the 180 days but the $5,000 is still included on the record of the penalty. The FL legislation KNEW the records were not well maintained and it was a way to sound reasonable to the public yet still disenfranchise those that paid their debt to society.
 
2022-08-18 7:27:34 PM  

TheAnalogKid: Karma Chameleon: The paying off debt/fines thing is dumb. Most people with debt/fines are still allowed to vote. If you are released from prison, you are back in society, period. The second you get out whatever rights you lost should be restored automatically with no bureaucratic bullshiat.

It's also dumb because they can't even tell people what they owe.  They have no system or records for it.


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2022-08-18 7:27:36 PM  
20 people. That's 0.00000093 percent of the people in Floriduh. Duh.
 
2022-08-18 7:28:32 PM  
Felons who served their time can legally vote in Florida. Could DeSantis be ignorant of the law?
 
2022-08-18 7:28:41 PM  
yeah, I got no idea what a remple is

temple
 
2022-08-18 7:29:48 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Felons who served their time can legally vote in Florida. Could DeSantis be ignorant of the law?


He's not ignorant of the law. He's unconcerned with it.
 
2022-08-18 7:30:53 PM  
I'm sick of this shiat.
 
2022-08-18 7:31:07 PM  
Okay now do The Villages.
 
2022-08-18 7:32:06 PM  

almandot: Let's see. Florida voted to let former felons have voting rights back. Their state countered back no. They persisted. The state said ok but only if they paid all their fines off but it's totally not a poll tax. These'll probably end up being felons that paid their fines but desantis claimed $6 of interest is unaccounted for.


And no one can tell them how much the fines are. There is no mechanism to figure it out.
 
2022-08-18 7:32:37 PM  

saturn badger: almandot: Let's see. Florida voted to let former felons have voting rights back. Their state countered back no. They persisted. The state said ok but only if they paid all their fines off but it's totally not a poll tax. These'll probably end up being felons that paid their fines but desantis claimed $6 of interest is unaccounted for.

And no one can tell them how much the fines are. There is no mechanism to figure it out.


Yup.

Feature, not bug.
 
2022-08-18 7:33:16 PM  
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2022-08-18 7:35:48 PM  

TheAnalogKid: Karma Chameleon: The paying off debt/fines thing is dumb. Most people with debt/fines are still allowed to vote. If you are released from prison, you are back in society, period. The second you get out whatever rights you lost should be restored automatically with no bureaucratic bullshiat.

It's also dumb because they can't even tell people what they owe.  They have no system or records for it.


well thats some Kafkaesque bullshiat right there
 
2022-08-18 7:37:53 PM  
Maybe if we let people in prison vote we might treat them better.
Yup it's punishment, but it's also rehabilitation. At least that's the what it ought to be, and we should treat them as humans or we are the monsters.
But it's the right and the responsibility of the people to vote and we should treat that right a lot better.
 
2022-08-18 7:38:53 PM  
How did election officials allow them to register -- and then actually vote?

Surely someone has cross-referencing data that could identify an ineligible voter?
 
2022-08-18 7:39:07 PM  
Those aren't real cops so stand your ground Floridians with an IQ above 🤪
 
2022-08-18 7:41:18 PM  

TheAnalogKid: It's also dumb because they can't even tell people what they owe. They have no system or records for it.


Well, did the victims know what they owed?

/s
 
2022-08-18 7:43:57 PM  

RasIanI: How did election officials allow them to register -- and then actually vote?

Surely someone has cross-referencing data that could identify an ineligible voter?


Lol, wait are you serious?

For more than a year, the state of Florida failed to review national background checks on tens of thousands of applications for concealed weapons permits, potentially allowing drug addicts or people with a mental illness to carry firearms in public.
 
2022-08-18 7:45:25 PM  

almandot: Let's see. Florida voted to let former felons have voting rights back. Their state countered back no. They persisted. The state said ok but only if they paid all their fines off but it's totally not a poll tax. These'll probably end up being felons that paid their fines but desantis claimed $6 of interest is unaccounted for.


Don't forget that counties often don't track which people owe court fees, but the people have to know anyway.
 
2022-08-18 7:46:57 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Felons who served their time can legally vote in Florida. Could DeSantis be ignorant of the law?


You have to apply to have your franchise restored. DeSSantis claims they didn't

Could you be ignorant of the majestic wonder  we call Florida law?
 
2022-08-18 7:48:49 PM  
.0001396% of the voter right there. How much has this cost so far?
 
2022-08-18 7:49:13 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: RasIanI: How did election officials allow them to register -- and then actually vote?

Surely someone has cross-referencing data that could identify an ineligible voter?

Lol, wait are you serious?

For more than a year, the state of Florida failed to review national background checks on tens of thousands of applications for concealed weapons permits, potentially allowing drug addicts or people with a mental illness to carry firearms in public.


Feature, not bug.
 
2022-08-18 7:50:28 PM  
Oh and to further muddy things, if in one act you are convicted or plead guilty to both a felony and a misdemeanor, it can be difficult to differentiate the penalties for the felony and the misdemeanor, so confinement is awarded for the felony and fine for the misdemeanor, once you have served your time for the felony the misdemeanor fine still stands but isn't part of the felony penalty and should not bar you from voting, but it does.
 
2022-08-18 7:52:49 PM  
I don't understand why the FL GOP doesn't just pass a law explicitly prohibiting Black people from voting. Everyone knows that that's what they want, and the US Supreme Court isn't gonna overturn a law that violates the plain text of the 15th Amendment.
 
2022-08-18 7:53:59 PM  

GoldSpider: This Is Bold Text: Either way, all citizens 17 or older should have the right to vote regardless of felon status, otherwise it creates an incentive for the incumbent to jail as many of the opponent's base as possible.

Then change those laws.

Meanwhile, the governor can justify the millions in funding for this office to produce 20 arrests statewide.


May I ask what your point is?
 
DVD
2022-08-18 7:54:56 PM  
Mostly off-topic, except that it involves another wanna-be dictator from Florida.

Trump vs his generals
 
2022-08-18 7:55:12 PM  

GoldSpider: This Is Bold Text: Either way, all citizens 17 or older should have the right to vote regardless of felon status, otherwise it creates an incentive for the incumbent to jail as many of the opponent's base as possible.

Then change those laws.

Meanwhile, the governor can justify the millions in funding for this office to produce 20 arrests statewide.


Public record request asking for names of employees assigned to this "investigation", their rate of pay, and how long each was assigned to it.

I would but I work for the state and they frown on us being uppity.
 
2022-08-18 7:56:21 PM  
"...20 had convictions for murder or sexual offenses, crimes that continue to result in a lifetime voting ban"

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2022-08-18 7:59:53 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Felons who served their time can legally vote in Florida. Could DeSantis be ignorant of the law?


DeTyrant makes his OWN laws!
 
2022-08-18 8:03:45 PM  
I don't mind if they were felons and knew they weren't supposed to vote.  Yet it's interesting that this all happened at once, publicized in a news story, right before some elections.  We did just have 75 million little crybaby b*tches being crybaby b*tches about politicizing crime.
 
2022-08-18 8:07:29 PM  
Many years ago (sometime in the 90s), my late dad, a convicted felon, received a letter saying what he interpreted as his voting rights being restored. After he moved back to Florida from NC in '09 he abolutely voted, believing it was legit.

His name is a totally white-bread name. Wondering if I'm going to get some weird-ass letter from the state or if they're only targeting black/brown sounding names.
 
2022-08-18 8:11:46 PM  
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2022-08-18 8:12:07 PM  
We voted to let felons vote years ago. Guess who screwed that up?

It was NOT Frank Stallone.
 
2022-08-18 8:12:31 PM  
That is because the convicted felon GOP get their voting rights back.
 
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