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2022-08-18 7:54:35 PM  
This is going to drag on for the next decade, isn't it?  It will go on long enough for TFG to cack before he sees justice served to him.
 
2022-08-18 8:01:24 PM  

harleyquinnical: This is going to drag on for the next decade, isn't it?  It will go on long enough for TFG to cack before he sees justice served to him.


The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

And the death camps for liberals and gays and trans and jews will begin.

So they better farkin hurry up.
 
2022-08-18 8:08:35 PM  
The DOJ is accepting bids on installing an  Ansul System in the room where old sparky is.

And he is going there.
 
2022-08-18 8:21:40 PM  
I anticipate Donald the Orange being indicted by, in the following order, the state of New York, the state of Georgia and the DoJ.

/Justice moves at strange tempos.
 
2022-08-18 8:40:07 PM  

neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.


Can't pardon for state charges.
 
2022-08-18 8:41:48 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


It's funny how people still believe the right cares one shiat about law, rules, and following them.
 
2022-08-18 8:42:43 PM  
For some reason today Ari Melber was saying that the DoJ was more just there to get the documents and makes charges a lot less likely. Not sure where he got this info, but he's a lawyer and usually kind of down the middle.

If they have enough to charge TFG already...charge him. The other investigations can continue while he is on trial for the original charges.
 
2022-08-18 8:44:01 PM  
the system, she just works!
 
2022-08-18 8:44:42 PM  
But if we charge King Donald with a crime that means they can charge us peasants too!
 
2022-08-18 8:47:41 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


Those states have governors and those governors can change.
 
2022-08-18 8:48:28 PM  
Why?

They should have started months ago.
 
2022-08-18 8:48:39 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


Governors of those states can. And a Republican one will.
 
2022-08-18 8:49:04 PM  
The criminal investigations of Donald Trump make plate tectonics look fast.
 
2022-08-18 8:49:06 PM  

OhioUGrad: If they have enough to charge TFG already...charge him. The other investigations can continue while he is on trial for the original charges.


Until the FBI has had a chance to go through every document that was in those boxes with the most advanced forensic detection equipment the planet has ever imagined... oops, I meant "dusted papers for fingerprints"... I can wait.

It's the parable of the young bull and the old bull. 2 bulls are on a hilltop, and there is a herd of cattle at the base. Young bull says "let's run down the hill and f*ck one of them!"

Old bull says "let's walk down the hill and f*ck 'em all."
 
2022-08-18 8:50:03 PM  
neongoats:

The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President...
And the death camps for liberals and gays and trans and jews will begin.



If it wouldn't be so tragic, I'd be laughing at all my MOT brethren who would still be supporting them on their way to the camps.

*Hopefully this won't happen for lot of reason, not least of which I just moved back to the US. Give me a few years of peace and prosperity before I have to become an underground partisan.
 
2022-08-18 8:50:15 PM  

Ask Me If I Have A God Complex: Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.

Governors of those states can. And a Republican one will.


In NY? Yeah, good luck with that.
 
2022-08-18 8:51:31 PM  
This is basically like that famous line from The Wire -- "You come for the king, you best not miss." Meaning, the DOJ has exactly ONE chance to nail this fat, worthless motherfarker to the wall. Investigating a former government official of the level Donnie Dumbass was at for violating the Espionage Act is serious goddamn business and isn't the ticky-tack shiat he's been investigated for in the past. Of course, it's going to take time, but they also need to not drag their feet too much. If the Republicans take back the WH in 2024, they'll shut all this down before whoever it is finishes saying "...so help me God."
 
2022-08-18 8:51:41 PM  
DOJ: We're just getting started

That's the problem. you should have been working since the day Bill Barr was out of the office.
 
2022-08-18 8:53:51 PM  
From their Aug 15th filing, about which we had 3 threads:
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2022-08-18 8:54:01 PM  
DOJ: We're just getting started
I don't think that's the confidence booster you think it is subby.

Probe of top secret docs at Trump estate in 'early stages'There are photos of Trumps people carrying government owned property out of the white house when he moved out, a year and a half ago. The archives have known for a long time what was not provided to them.

Why is this still the early stages?
/yeah I get it, it takes time//but it should not be geologic time
 
2022-08-18 8:55:18 PM  

Karma Chameleon: DOJ: We're just getting started
I don't think that's the confidence booster you think it is subby.

Probe of top secret docs at Trump estate in 'early stages'There are photos of Trumps people carrying government owned property out of the white house when he moved out, a year and a half ago. The archives have known for a long time what was not provided to them.

Why is this still the early stages?
/yeah I get it, it takes time//but it should not be geologic time


and I have no clue wtf happening to my spacing there
 
2022-08-18 8:55:36 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


That's not in the Constitution
 
2022-08-18 8:56:32 PM  
Stocks for producers of hand lotion just spiked.
 
2022-08-18 8:56:42 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


The current batch of Supreme's will, no doubt, cry "hold our beer" and make it so the President (only as long as he is MAGApublican) can indeed override the states, on ALL issues.
 
2022-08-18 8:57:19 PM  
yeah like you know when the DOJ was working on what because you heard/didn't hear it

now why TF does the ex president need nuclear secret files (putin) anyway?
could say he packed em by accident but lawyers assured us all they weren't there.
and then they were there.

WHEN LOVE IS GONE
THERE'S ALWAYS JUSTICE.
AND WHEN JUSTICE IS GONE
THERE'S ALWAYS FORCE.

-laurie anderson O Superman 1981
 
2022-08-18 8:57:35 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.

It's funny how people still believe the right cares one shiat about law, rules, and following them.


The next Republican will be elected SuperPresident, which is totally a thing in the original copy of the Constitution, but no you can't see it because it's in a vault at the Mercer house for safekeeping. Anyway, SuperPresidents can pardon for state charges.

Also they get that thing where you can bang someone's spouse on their wedding night. Amazon Prima?
Gonna be a lot of surprised grooms and their erotic awakenings. See Chuck Tingle for details.
 
2022-08-18 8:57:37 PM  

King of Monkeys: But if we charge King Donald with a crime that means they can charge us peasants too!


I know ye jest but they are actually using that logic on Fox and all the RWNJ platforms. It's totally absurd but it works on their cretinous base because it creates the fear that somehow something is being taken away from them. Same crap with Bama taking yur guns. Just nonsensical fearmongering propaganda to fuel the rube inferno
 
2022-08-18 9:00:15 PM  
Yes, we should do exactly what the people who chanted "Hang Mike Pence" during the J6 insurrection want us to do, right?

/WRONG!!!
 
2022-08-18 9:01:21 PM  
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2022-08-18 9:05:24 PM  
Look, fact is that 40 years ago, if you wanted to see the yearly broadcast of the stop-motion animation film Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer, you had to be in front of the TV at 7:30 on the night it aired. But now, I can have it beamed right into the commercially-made activity tracking device I paid $800 for and I don't have to wait around like some sort of loser schmuck with nothing to do.

So, if you don't mind, I'd like this process to go a little faster because I've grown accustomed to having whatever I want delivered to me immediately and I'm not one to forgive inconveniences like lengthy investigations, due diligence, or careful, deliberate legal procedure. I'm an american, by golly, by gum, and I hereby* demand instant gratification.

*The use of hereby makes this legally binding to everyone with no take backs or givsies.
 
2022-08-18 9:06:42 PM  

Russ1642: The criminal investigations of Donald Trump make plate tectonics look fast.


Well, he's so careful about covering his tracks.
 
2022-08-18 9:06:46 PM  

Ishkur: Ask Me If I Have A God Complex: Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.

Governors of those states can. And a Republican one will.

In NY? Yeah, good luck with that.


Money rules New York. And their governors tend to be the worst the Dems have to offer.
 
2022-08-18 9:08:28 PM  

King of Monkeys: But if we charge King Donald with a crime that means they can charge us peasants too!


If I steal classified nuclear secrets?
 
2022-08-18 9:08:52 PM  
Ugh! Stop it I'm not into edging!
 
2022-08-18 9:09:02 PM  
Lock him up!
 
2022-08-18 9:12:49 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


You know Kemp will though
 
2022-08-18 9:15:01 PM  

Karma Chameleon: DOJ: We're just getting started
I don't think that's the confidence booster you think it is subby.


It means they're not just interested in getting the docs back but have further goals



Why is this still the early stages?

Who exactly removed the docs?Who exactly was aware of their removal?What did any of these people plan to do with them?Let's say you find the covfefe boy that physically packed the box labelled "totally not secret, store in basement".You get that guy to flip , which gets you to the person that told them to do it. You work your way up the chain as far as you canWe're at least two, and maybe 3 or 4, away from getting someone who can put TFG in it. If anyone can. I could believe this was a dumb idea Rudy or some other fool cooked up and they just lied and said they were acting on Hair Furor's orders
 
2022-08-18 9:15:27 PM  
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2022-08-18 9:17:27 PM  
Wonder if they're waiting to see who has copies of the docs.  Saudi, Israel and or Russia.
 
2022-08-18 9:17:30 PM  

Lochsteppe: Keizer_Ghidorah: Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.

It's funny how people still believe the right cares one shiat about law, rules, and following them.

The next Republican will be elected SuperPresident, which is totally a thing in the original copy of the Constitution, but no you can't see it because it's in a vault at the Mercer house for safekeeping. Anyway, SuperPresidents can pardon for state charges.

Also they get that thing where you can bang someone's spouse on their wedding night. Amazon Prima?
Gonna be a lot of surprised grooms and their erotic awakenings. See Chuck Tingle for details.


The next Republican President will be the last elected President we have.
 
2022-08-18 9:19:27 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Wonder if they're waiting to see who has copies of the docs.  Saudi, Israel and or Russia.


All of them
 
2022-08-18 9:20:15 PM  
Trump is gonna need a travel coordinator to keep track of which courts he, his kids, and all their lawyers are gonna have to appear, plus hotels.  Probably several people.  He's a goddamn job creator!
 
2022-08-18 9:20:26 PM  
I understand the fingerprint stuff, but surely it takes less than a minute to see if something is heavily classified. If that classified document was found somewhere it should not be, like Trump's safe, isn't that an easilly proven crime? Just having one of those documents out of place would be enough to arrest the little people, right? Trump's** Trove has to be a slam dunk conviction. One easily provable count is all you need.
 
2022-08-18 9:30:06 PM  

OhioUGrad: For some reason today Ari Melber was saying that the DoJ was more just there to get the documents and makes charges a lot less likely. Not sure where he got this info, but he's a lawyer and usually kind of down the middle.

If they have enough to charge TFG already...charge him. The other investigations can continue while he is on trial for the original charges.


And they listed three federal crimes on that warrant for what, to pad the word count?
 
2022-08-18 9:30:53 PM  

Xaxor: I understand the fingerprint stuff, but surely it takes less than a minute to see if something is heavily classified. If that classified document was found somewhere it should not be, like Trump's safe, isn't that an easilly proven crime? Just having one of those documents out of place would be enough to arrest the little people, right? Trump's** Trove has to be a slam dunk conviction. One easily provable count is all you need.


Nuclear plans aren't sitting around in coffee table book form in the Oval Office. For the extra-secret stuff, he had to have had help. They want to catch all of the people involved before they scurry back into the woodwork (to potentially sell whatever else they pocketed or memorized).
 
2022-08-18 9:37:35 PM  

snowshovel: Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.

That's not in the Constitution


Ummm ... isn't it, though?

The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

State charges are, by definition, against the state, not the United States. Unless the Constitution now works by Air Bud rules. In which case, it doesn't explicitly say I don't have the right to sleep with Jennifer Lawrence whenever I want.
 
2022-08-18 9:45:09 PM  
The Justice Department's investigation into whether former President Donald Trump illegally stored classified records at his Florida estate...

Guys. Come on. We know it. You know it. TFG knows it.

Let's skip to the part where you perp walk him out, kicking and screaming.

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2022-08-18 9:52:39 PM  

Ishkur: neongoats: The actual fear is that it will go on long enough for a right wing fascist nat-c to become President, at which point they'll issue Trump a blanket pardon for anything he's ever done in his entire life.

Can't pardon for state charges.


He can appeal those to the SCOTUS, which will let him off
 
2022-08-18 9:53:09 PM  

Mcavity: DOJ: We're just getting started

That's the problem. you should have been working since the day Bill Barr was out of the office.


There are two DOJ investigations of Trump. The documents investigation is the most recent one. Apparently there is another one that has been going on longer. It is probably related to January 6th.
Which makes me think the documents are actually tied to that investigation too. Possibly to show motive.
 
2022-08-18 9:55:40 PM  

OhioUGrad: For some reason today Ari Melber was saying that the DoJ was more just there to get the documents and makes charges a lot less likely. Not sure where he got this info, but he's a lawyer and usually kind of down the middle.

If they have enough to charge TFG already...charge him. The other investigations can continue while he is on trial for the original charges.


I wouldn't just assume that. I don't know what else is going on. I don't know how one investigation might be compromised by facts introduced in a trial in a related case.
 
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