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(Some Guy)   Tennessee citizens will vote this November to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude in the state. Tennessee grown cotton prices may be spiking next year yo   (local3news.com) divider line
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1312 clicks; posted to Politics » on 18 Aug 2022 at 7:46 PM (14 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-18 2:31:53 PM  
Will not apply to prison labor of course.
 
2022-08-18 7:51:14 PM  
You know they're gonna vote against it because if it passes it's just "canceling our culture!"
 
2022-08-18 7:56:32 PM  
Great.  Only 160 years later.  Nice job, Dickheads.

/Davyyyyy Davy Crocket
 
2022-08-18 7:58:00 PM  

aleister_greynight: Will not apply to prison labor of course.


It specifically applies to prison labor.

This amendment would change the current language in article I, section 33 of the Tennessee Constitution, which says that slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a person who has been duly convicted of crime, are forever prohibited in this State.  The amendment would delete this current language and replace it with the following language: "Slavery and involuntary servitude are forever prohibited. Nothing in this section shall prohibit an inmate from working when the inmate has been duly convicted of a crime."
 
2022-08-18 8:01:05 PM  
So... the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Tennessee?
 
2022-08-18 8:01:29 PM  
Interesting fact: The Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Tennessee.
 
2022-08-18 8:02:48 PM  

foo monkey: aleister_greynight: Will not apply to prison labor of course.

It specifically applies to prison labor.

This amendment would change the current language in article I, section 33 of the Tennessee Constitution, which says that slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a person who has been duly convicted of crime, are forever prohibited in this State.  The amendment would delete this current language and replace it with the following language: "Slavery and involuntary servitude are forever prohibited. Nothing in this section shall prohibit an inmate from working when the inmate has been duly convicted of a crime."


For clarification, it cements prison labor as Constitutional.
 
2022-08-18 8:04:37 PM  
We're also gonna allow clergy to be elected to Congress. Next step is the requirement to *be* clergy...

Kinda confused... If there's no religious test for getting elected, what would it matter if they were clergy? I mean, I'm not voting to change the prohibition, but I also know I'm getting out voted on this one.
 
2022-08-18 8:21:11 PM  

MacWizard: So... the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Tennessee?


State's rights!
 
2022-08-18 8:27:56 PM  
Who has constitutions that indorse slavery and indentured servitude?

Oh, the Old Confederacy states.

/Alabama votes this year to replace the longest constitution in the world with a new one.
//Farking only took nearly 160 years to do so.
 
2022-08-18 8:33:00 PM  
I'll wait for the vote totals to prove my point that people suck. You know people will vote against it.
 
2022-08-18 8:35:21 PM  
So the amendments are:

1) Union busting.
2) No slave labour from prisoners.
3) Essentially adopting Sections 3 and 4 of the 25th amendment for the governor.
4) Removing a rule banning priests from holding office, which I am pretty sure was unconstitutional any way.

A lot better than I expected of Tennessee with only one being evil and one being actually good.
 
2022-08-18 8:44:23 PM  

MacWizard: So... the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Tennessee?


Slavery is still legal for prisoners under the 13th amendment.
 
2022-08-18 8:45:03 PM  

foo monkey: foo monkey: aleister_greynight: Will not apply to prison labor of course.

It specifically applies to prison labor.

This amendment would change the current language in article I, section 33 of the Tennessee Constitution, which says that slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a person who has been duly convicted of crime, are forever prohibited in this State.  The amendment would delete this current language and replace it with the following language: "Slavery and involuntary servitude are forever prohibited. Nothing in this section shall prohibit an inmate from working when the inmate has been duly convicted of a crime."

For clarification, it cements prison labor as Constitutional.


So I am technically incorrect, but effectively correct?
 
2022-08-18 8:45:05 PM  

AirForceVet: Who has constitutions that indorse slavery and indentured servitude?

Oh, the Old Confederacy states.

/Alabama votes this year to replace the longest constitution in the world with a new one.
//Farking only took nearly 160 years to do so.


Alabama is basically reorganizing. I believe it is is basically the same constitution minus stuff that has been repealed or declared unconstitutional decades ago. Stuff that belongs together is together, etc.

And Tennessee is being symbolic.  Nothing will actually change as Amendment 13 does apply in Tennessee.
 
2022-08-18 8:51:43 PM  

aleister_greynight: foo monkey: foo monkey: aleister_greynight: Will not apply to prison labor of course.

It specifically applies to prison labor.

This amendment would change the current language in article I, section 33 of the Tennessee Constitution, which says that slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a person who has been duly convicted of crime, are forever prohibited in this State.  The amendment would delete this current language and replace it with the following language: "Slavery and involuntary servitude are forever prohibited. Nothing in this section shall prohibit an inmate from working when the inmate has been duly convicted of a crime."

For clarification, it cements prison labor as Constitutional.

So I am technically incorrect, but effectively correct?


I think it's more that Subby's misleading headline about ol' timey slavery, which is already outlawed in the TN constitution, is throwing us all off the real issue.
 
2022-08-18 8:53:10 PM  

foo monkey: foo monkey: aleister_greynight: Will not apply to prison labor of course.

It specifically applies to prison labor.

This amendment would change the current language in article I, section 33 of the Tennessee Constitution, which says that slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a person who has been duly convicted of crime, are forever prohibited in this State.  The amendment would delete this current language and replace it with the following language: "Slavery and involuntary servitude are forever prohibited. Nothing in this section shall prohibit an inmate from working when the inmate has been duly convicted of a crime."

For clarification, it cements prison labor as Constitutional.


And removes the language calling it slavery.
 
2022-08-18 9:11:57 PM  
They are basically removing slavery:

An amendment to Article I, Section 33 of the Constitution of Tennessee, to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude.

And then adding it back in:

An amendment to Article XI, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the right to work.
 
2022-08-18 9:16:26 PM  

northgrave: They are basically removing slavery:

An amendment to Article I, Section 33 of the Constitution of Tennessee, to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude.

And then adding it back in:

An amendment to Article XI, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the right to work.


The important difference is that they would need to be paid for that work, presumably at least minimum wage, which the department of correction will attempt to claw 99.5% back as room and board...

Also it's "can work" not "must work".

So, it's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
 
2022-08-18 9:40:02 PM  

Discordulator: northgrave: They are basically removing slavery:

An amendment to Article I, Section 33 of the Constitution of Tennessee, to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude.

And then adding it back in:

An amendment to Article XI, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the right to work.

The important difference is that they would need to be paid for that work, presumably at least minimum wage, which the department of correction will attempt to claw 99.5% back as room and board...

Also it's "can work" not "must work".

So, it's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.



In general, "Right to work" has been a thinly guised effort to remove any worker rights. Unions and minimum wages are the the first targets. Hours of work and working conditions will come later.

The goal is for everyone, not just prisoners, to live in a company town where 99.5% comes back to the employer.
 
2022-08-18 10:00:41 PM  

northgrave: Discordulator: northgrave: They are basically removing slavery:

An amendment to Article I, Section 33 of the Constitution of Tennessee, to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude.

And then adding it back in:

An amendment to Article XI, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the right to work.

The important difference is that they would need to be paid for that work, presumably at least minimum wage, which the department of correction will attempt to claw 99.5% back as room and board...

Also it's "can work" not "must work".

So, it's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.


In general, "Right to work" has been a thinly guised effort to remove any worker rights. Unions and minimum wages are the the first targets. Hours of work and working conditions will come later.

The goal is for everyone, not just prisoners, to live in a company town where 99.5% comes back to the employer.


So, the choice is right to work bullshiat or slavery. Which one will you choose?

Small progress is better than nothing. The key is to continue to push for more over time. That's what being progressive generally means.
 
2022-08-18 10:07:56 PM  

MacWizard: So... the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Tennessee?


The 13th Amendment doesn't actually criminalize slavery, and was used to legalize certain forms of prisoner slavery across large parts of the country until WW2.
 
2022-08-18 10:18:19 PM  

x3lit3: We're also gonna allow clergy to be elected to Congress. Next step is the requirement to *be* clergy...

Kinda confused... If there's no religious test for getting elected, what would it matter if they were clergy? I mean, I'm not voting to change the prohibition, but I also know I'm getting out voted on this one.


You're getting a new crop of religious legislators, governors, and AGs.

Notice they aren't removing the next section which seems targeted at atheists and Jews.

Section 2. No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and 
punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state

They're leaving that one in for some unknown reason.
 
2022-08-18 10:30:50 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: x3lit3: We're also gonna allow clergy to be elected to Congress. Next step is the requirement to *be* clergy...

Kinda confused... If there's no religious test for getting elected, what would it matter if they were clergy? I mean, I'm not voting to change the prohibition, but I also know I'm getting out voted on this one.

You're getting a new crop of religious legislators, governors, and AGs.

Notice they aren't removing the next section which seems targeted at atheists and Jews.

Section 2. No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and 
punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state

They're leaving that one in for some unknown reason.


TN is forging ahead to the '30s!

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The 1530's.
 
2022-08-18 11:26:33 PM  
well let's see how the vote goes.  this is the darkest timeline after all.
 
2022-08-19 12:31:54 AM  
1. An amendment to Article XI, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the right to work.
2. An amendment to Article II and Article III of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to the exercise of the powers and duties of the Governor during disability.
3. An amendment to Article I, Section 33 of the Constitution of Tennessee, to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude.
4. An amendment to Article IX, of the Constitution of Tennessee, relative to disqualifications.

1 is going to void 3
 
2022-08-19 12:52:50 AM  

MacWizard: So... the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Tennessee?


The Thirteenth Amendment explicitly allows involuntary servitude.
 
2022-08-19 1:07:43 AM  
My state continually finds new and exciting ways to make me ashamed of it.
 
2022-08-19 7:43:49 AM  

KodosZardoz: You know they're gonna vote against it because if it passes it's just "canceling our culture!"


Tennessee didn't even secede!
 
2022-08-19 8:50:58 AM  

AirForceVet: Who has constitutions that indorse slavery and indentured servitude?

Oh, the Old Confederacy states.

/Alabama votes this year to replace the longest constitution in the world with a new one.
//Farking only took nearly 160 years to do so.


What is correct Indorse or endorse?
Endorsement and indorsement are both nouns. Indorsement is only used in financial contexts, and then only rarely. Even most checks say "endorse here," rather than "indorse here." For any public show of support, endorsement is the only spelling.
 
2022-08-19 1:57:52 PM  

Kyle Butler: AirForceVet: Who has constitutions that indorse slavery and indentured servitude?

Oh, the Old Confederacy states.

/Alabama votes this year to replace the longest constitution in the world with a new one.
//Farking only took nearly 160 years to do so.

What is correct Indorse or endorse?
Endorsement and indorsement are both nouns. Indorsement is only used in financial contexts, and then only rarely. Even most checks say "endorse here," rather than "indorse here." For any public show of support, endorsement is the only spelling.


It's a lot cooler indorse here in the summer than it is outdoors.
 
2022-08-20 10:50:01 AM  
And reproductive slavery?
 
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