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(Big Think)   What can the simple fact that "we exist" teach us about the Universe?   (bigthink.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Universe, General relativity, Anthropic principle, Physical cosmology, Dark energy, Big Bang, Cosmological constant, aspects of our Universe  
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2022-08-18 3:59:46 PM  
Almost anything can happen.
 
2022-08-18 4:44:47 PM  
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2022-08-18 5:01:36 PM  
I am and I'm not even thinking.
 
2022-08-18 5:08:58 PM  
A man said to the universe:"Sir, I exist!""However," replied the universe,"The fact has not created in meA sense of obligation." - Stephen Crane
 
2022-08-18 5:09:29 PM  
Lovely poem.  Shame Fark ruined it with it's terrible formatting.
 
2022-08-18 5:22:01 PM  
That the universe is inherently flawed if it can result in the creation of assholes like us.
 
2022-08-18 5:32:21 PM  
That we don't not exist?
 
2022-08-18 5:40:06 PM  
That Shiat Happens.

/now 'scuse me while I go pinch one
 
2022-08-18 5:44:58 PM  
That it was a mistake?
 
2022-08-18 5:52:39 PM  
That the basic parameters of the universe are well tuned for our lifeform.
 
2022-08-18 5:54:53 PM  
That the universe is sentient, and we are but sensors for it to experience itself.
 
2022-08-18 5:55:16 PM  
Heh heh....butt sensors....
 
2022-08-18 5:55:40 PM  

natazha: That the basic parameters of the universe are well tuned for our lifeform.


The basic parameters of our lifeform are tuned to exist on this planet which is, in turn tuned to exist at this specific "place" in the universe.

Small distinction but important I think.
 
2022-08-18 6:16:17 PM  

Mouser: That it was a mistake?


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/not obscure
//except for maybe the spelling not in British English
 
2022-08-18 6:16:52 PM  

leeksfromchichis: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 553x554]


"I think, therefore I am delivering tofu."
 
2022-08-18 6:29:22 PM  
The gods have a sense of humor
 
2022-08-18 6:34:52 PM  
The Universe had existed for nearly 14 billion years before the first hominids appeared. The length of humanity's existence compared to age of the Universe is a few grains of sand in an hourglass.

Our existence doesn't mean that the Universe was somehow tailored for our existence or the existence of any other lifeform. It would still exist and continue to exist, with or without us. To conflate our existence to mean something special about the Universe is navel gazing and egotism at its worst.
 
2022-08-18 6:46:21 PM  
Proof of the divine origin of the Universe libratardoes!!!

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Peel goes off, banana comes out, you can't explain that!
 
2022-08-18 6:58:05 PM  
Nothing at all
 
2022-08-18 7:02:29 PM  
To shut the f**k up.
 
2022-08-18 7:13:22 PM  
What proof is there that we exist if all the ways to measure out existence come from within that same existence.
If reality isn't real, neither are we.
 
2022-08-18 7:52:45 PM  

natazha: That the basic parameters of the universe are well tuned for our lifeform.


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Not in general
 
2022-08-18 8:06:21 PM  

natazha: That the basic parameters of the universe are well tuned for our lifeform.


That our lifeform is well enough tuned to the conditions on Earth and the general physics of the Universe and the Earth has allowed it so far.
 
2022-08-18 8:08:21 PM  
Florida will just add this to the list of things that exist which teachers are not allowed to talk about.
 
2022-08-18 8:10:29 PM  

eyeq360: The Universe had existed for nearly 14 billion years before the first hominids appeared. The length of humanity's existence compared to age of the Universe is a few grains of sand in an hourglass.

Our existence doesn't mean that the Universe was somehow tailored for our existence or the existence of any other lifeform. It would still exist and continue to exist, with or without us. To conflate our existence to mean something special about the Universe is navel gazing and egotism at its worst.


I'm just glad the Universe hasn't noticed us yet.
 
2022-08-18 8:32:39 PM  

RedVentrue: eyeq360: The Universe had existed for nearly 14 billion years before the first hominids appeared. The length of humanity's existence compared to age of the Universe is a few grains of sand in an hourglass.

Our existence doesn't mean that the Universe was somehow tailored for our existence or the existence of any other lifeform. It would still exist and continue to exist, with or without us. To conflate our existence to mean something special about the Universe is navel gazing and egotism at its worst.

I'm just glad the Universe hasn't noticed us yet.


I have.

/trying to think highly of myself.
 
2022-08-18 9:20:55 PM  

amigafin: That the universe is sentient, and we are but sensors for it to experience itself.


or, we're just basically a bunch of protoplasm walking around in a test tube

your pick
 
2022-08-18 10:37:56 PM  
If I learned anything from reading Descartes, I can use it to 'prove' anything that I already believed.
 
2022-08-18 11:07:37 PM  
Dark Star (1974) Phenomenology 101
Youtube 5b58Zh_5VKI
 
2022-08-19 2:26:48 AM  

amigafin: That the universe is sentient, and we are but sensors for it to experience itself.


Literally factual...  If we  are simply the  result of random variables in the universe  inevitably leading to consciousness through the sheer  magnitude of everything, then yes, the universe is actually sentient, because we are sentient and part of it.  However as a whole it may not be.  It would be like if on a particular tree some of the cells on one of the leaves became sentient, but the tree was just a tree.
 
2022-08-19 3:25:49 AM  
Can You Observe a Typical Universe?
Youtube q-6oU3jXAho


The whole playlist is worth a watch.

Anthropic principle
 
2022-08-19 8:18:20 AM  
Our existence shows that the helium must be able to fuse into carbon-12.  If your models say otherwise, they're wrong.
 
2022-08-19 8:36:19 AM  
Define "exist".

"I think therefore I am" has always been an incorrect logical jump.
 
2022-08-19 8:39:13 AM  

eyeq360: The Universe had existed for nearly 14 billion years before the first hominids appeared. The length of humanity's existence compared to age of the Universe is a few grains of sand in an hourglass.

Our existence doesn't mean that the Universe was somehow tailored for our existence or the existence of any other lifeform. It would still exist and continue to exist, with or without us. To conflate our existence to mean something special about the Universe is navel gazing and egotism at its worst.


"This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for."

-Douglas Adams
 
2022-08-19 10:21:38 AM  
I see a lot of people didn't read the article.
As usual.
 
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