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2022-08-18 10:55:00 AM  
I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.
 
2022-08-18 2:03:28 PM  

SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.


Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.
 
2022-08-18 2:56:37 PM  
He won't even be able to keep his own dessert in prison
 
2022-08-18 6:01:13 PM  

vudukungfu: He won't even be able to keep his own dessert in prison


Just maybe a half-scoop.
 
2022-08-18 6:02:28 PM  

EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.


They probably didn't think he could figure out a copier.
 
2022-08-18 6:03:01 PM  
Baby throws a fit
 
2022-08-18 6:03:52 PM  
"They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.
 
2022-08-18 6:03:53 PM  

vudukungfu: He won't even be able to keep his own dessert in prison


That's not true. He'll have a choice of jelly or syrup.
 
2022-08-18 6:04:41 PM  
It's no mystery. He's a spoiled brat who has yelled "MINE! MINE! MINE!" about everything for 75 years.
 
2022-08-18 6:06:16 PM  

stoli n coke: It's no mystery. He's a spoiled brat who has yelled "MINE! MINE! MINE!" about everything for 75 years.


Also, he is an Id10T
 
2022-08-18 6:07:53 PM  
How is this a mystery?

Not it's not.

Stop pretending it is.

The answer is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't averse to admitting the bloody obvious even if it's terrifying.

THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON TO STEAL EXTREMELY SENSITIVE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR JOB IN DISGRACE... Especially if you're a traitor who's hugely indebted to America's foreign enemies, and compromised by them.
 
2022-08-18 6:09:15 PM  
I kind of believe 2 things I've read over the last 36 hours: 1) He was paranoid about his legacy v. The National Archivists and the professionals there ("they're all Democrats!"), and;  2) Kash Patel's claim that they intended to try to re-write his legacy regarding his impeachments, Mueller, etc.

Problem is, the records weren't his to do that with.
 
2022-08-18 6:11:48 PM  

stoli n coke: It's no mystery. He's a spoiled brat who has yelled "MINE! MINE! MINE!" about everything for 75 years.


Daffy Duck - Mine, mine, mine!
Youtube RKMNPQ35OUc
 
2022-08-18 6:14:02 PM  
"Mystery"? Really?

He's a narcissist who is convinced that even in a sold out football stadium with 80,000 people in attendance, he is the smartest one in the room. He "knows" that he is smarter than the intelligence community, the generals, people who are good at "the cyber", and so on.

You think he was going to listen to lawyers? If you want Trump to do something, you just need to convince him that the "Deep State" doesn't want him to do it. It's 100% reverse psychology with this clown.
 
2022-08-18 6:14:11 PM  
Because the FBI hadn't planted them yet, duh.
 
2022-08-18 6:14:31 PM  
Prison is too good for him and his supporters/followers/shouldhavebeenaborteds.


Seal them off together in a sewer directly below a Chipotle in Jersey.
 
2022-08-18 6:15:18 PM  
A piece of shiat that any rational minded human could identify as a piece of shiat acted like a piece of shiat. That's literally the 'reason' behind anything trump has done
 
stk
2022-08-18 6:15:30 PM  
Like, he was selling the information, right? He's a grifter first and foremost. He'd sell his grandmother if he could get a couple bucks, sellung nuclear secrets and spy info to the highest bidder would be the least surprising thing ever.
 
2022-08-18 6:18:03 PM  

Snapper Carr: "They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.


To be more accurate they belong to the United States.

To answer the question posited by the article- somebody told the geriatric toddler "no."  He never takes that for an answer.
 
2022-08-18 6:19:17 PM  

Snapper Carr: "They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.


Nope.  Not to the sitting President either.
 
2022-08-18 6:19:42 PM  

EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.


We don't know that they weren't copied in some manner.  We have no idea what DoJ actually knows.  Maybe they intercepted something.
 
2022-08-18 6:21:46 PM  
As with so much else related to Trump, there is not one easy answer.

Ah, but there is an easy answer.  Nobody made him obey the law.  There were never any personal consequences.  So it became a game of 'how much can I get away with'?  The answer, so far, is everything.
 
2022-08-18 6:23:21 PM  
Can we please stop pretending like there's some complex explanation for Trump's behavior that we'll figure out if we just try hard enough? He's a greedy, selfish, dishonest, simple minded, authoritarian, narcissistic asshole. Period. That's all the explanation you need because it accounts for every single thing he has ever said or done in his entire life.
 
2022-08-18 6:25:55 PM  

etoof: EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.

They probably didn't think he could figure out a copier.


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2022-08-18 6:27:49 PM  
I still think hiding evidence of his crimes is part of it. Everything else is speculation, too, so why isn't the idea that he's hiding evidence of crimes not part of the discussion? Is there some sort of evidence that that isn't going on?
 
2022-08-18 6:28:26 PM  
There's been a Tweet circulating for a couple of weeks now along the lines of, "Trump flushing scraps of paper in a building with 28 fireplaces tells you all you need to know about the guy".  Spot on.
 
2022-08-18 6:31:15 PM  

Snapper Carr: "They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.


No.  No, No, No.

They are the Property of the United States.  They were never his, nor do they belong to his successor.
 
2022-08-18 6:34:58 PM  
Didn't Mikey Snitch say he did it to blackmail the government?
 
2022-08-18 6:39:06 PM  
Oppositional defiance disorder. They asked, so he has to say no.
 
2022-08-18 6:41:28 PM  
If Donald Trump were a bird:
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2022-08-18 6:42:00 PM  
FTA: "White House aides described how excited he was to show off all the material he had access to, including letters from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, which he routinely waved at visitors, alarming his advisers.
Some of those letters were among the trove that Trump had with him at Mar-a-Lago."

And I bet he's also still wondering why the love letters from KJU suddenly dried up right around the time he left office.

/And the North Koreans are still snickering to themselves saying "I can't believe he actually fell for that!"
 
2022-08-18 6:43:13 PM  

Snapper Carr: "They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.


They don't belong to the President, they just belong to the United States. They aren't executive branch property they are owned by the government and held in trust by the people's elected representatives or their appointees
 
2022-08-18 6:44:08 PM  
"My money," he often called the cash he raised through his campaign or for the Republican National Committee.

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2022-08-18 6:49:34 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Can we please stop pretending like there's some complex explanation for Trump's behavior that we'll figure out if we just try hard enough? He's a greedy, selfish, dishonest, simple minded, authoritarian, narcissistic asshole. Period. That's all the explanation you need because it accounts for every single thing he has ever said or done in his entire life.


Also "Evil".
 
2022-08-18 6:51:08 PM  

qorkfiend: Oppositional defiance disorder. They asked, so he has to say no.


Close.

Oppositional defiant disorder
Also called: ODD

A disorder in a child marked by defiant and disobedient behavior to authority figures.

The cause of oppositional defiant disorder is unknown but likely involves a combination of genetic and environmental factors.
 
2022-08-18 7:01:06 PM  

Kris_Romm: qorkfiend: Oppositional defiance disorder. They asked, so he has to say no.

Close.

Oppositional defiant disorder
Also called: ODD

A disorder in a child marked by defiant and disobedient behavior to authority figures.

The cause of oppositional defiant disorder is unknown but likely involves a combination of genetic and environmental factors.


No it isn't

Just kidding. Thanks
 
2022-08-18 7:05:38 PM  

lilbjorn: As with so much else related to Trump, there is not one easy answer.

Ah, but there is an easy answer.  Nobody made him obey the law.  There were never any personal consequences.  So it became a game of 'how much can I get away with'?  The answer, so far, is everything.


This.
 
2022-08-18 7:05:54 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Can we please stop pretending like there's some complex explanation for Trump's behavior that we'll figure out if we just try hard enough? He's a greedy, selfish, dishonest, simple minded, authoritarian, narcissistic asshole. Period. That's all the explanation you need because it accounts for every single thing he has ever said or done in his entire life.


And this.
 
2022-08-18 7:19:50 PM  

erik-k: How is this a mystery?

Not it's not.

Stop pretending it is.

The answer is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't averse to admitting the bloody obvious even if it's terrifying.

THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON TO STEAL EXTREMELY SENSITIVE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR JOB IN DISGRACE... Especially if you're a traitor who's hugely indebted to America's foreign enemies, and compromised by them.


You're gonna have to spell it out.  My guess is he wanted the docs to wipe his ass with.  Because he is, an idiot.
 
2022-08-18 7:35:55 PM  

vrax: EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.

We don't know that they weren't copied in some manner.  We have no idea what DoJ actually knows.  Maybe they intercepted something.


The warrant was executed just after the golf tournament. The fbi is fingerprinting the documents to see if they match... anyone from the tournament.

The fbi had people all over that tournament. They collected fingerprints and dna from everyone.

/ or not...
 
2022-08-18 7:37:22 PM  

GooberK: vrax: EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.

We don't know that they weren't copied in some manner.  We have no idea what DoJ actually knows.  Maybe they intercepted something.

The warrant was executed just after the golf tournament. The fbi is fingerprinting the documents to see if they match... anyone from the tournament.

The fbi had people all over that tournament. They collected fingerprints and dna from everyone.

/ or not...


And secret service had to be aware
 
2022-08-18 7:46:04 PM  
Camelot - C'est Moi
Youtube 4U8PaxW66LI
 
2022-08-18 7:46:52 PM  

GooberK: vrax: EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.

We don't know that they weren't copied in some manner.  We have no idea what DoJ actually knows.  Maybe they intercepted something.

The warrant was executed just after the golf tournament. The fbi is fingerprinting the documents to see if they match... anyone from the tournament.

The fbi had people all over that tournament. They collected fingerprints and dna from everyone.

/ or not...


I found this tidbit disturbing...

"Outside the White House, secure rooms where Trump could review sensitive documents were set up at both Mar-a-Lago and the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, although he did not always use them."

Why haven't the DOJ/FBI gone thru Bedminster too?

The 1st Saudi golf money laundering event was there, and the final event will be at drumpf's Doral club. Wouldn't it seem likely he may have items at both locations and not just at MAL?
 
2022-08-18 7:53:22 PM  

Snapper Carr: "They're mine," three of Trump's advisers said that he stated repeatedly when he was urged to return boxes of documents, some of them highly classified

No.  They belong to the President of the United States of America.  The second you cease to be that, ownership and dispensation of those documents transfers to your successor.


If you honestly believe and have faith that you are still president, you do get to keep those papers. It's what freedom of religion is all about.
 
2022-08-18 8:02:41 PM  
Dollar store Gollum does what now?
 
2022-08-18 8:04:46 PM  

Mikey1969: "Mystery"? Really?

He's a narcissist who is convinced that even in a sold out football stadium with 80,000 people in attendance, he is the smartest one in the room. He "knows" that he is smarter than the intelligence community, the generals, people who are good at "the cyber", and so on.


He claimed to know more about covid-19 than anyone else in the world because his unclewent to MIT.
 
2022-08-18 8:16:03 PM  

vrax: EvilEgg: SpectroBoy: I find it hilarious that his own legal team advised him to just farking return the papers.
Had he listened to them the warrant would never have happened.

I get that he probably wanted to sell them.
It's HILARIOUS because it never occurred to him to just make photo copies and return the originals.

Yeah, sure that would work for the nuclear secrets, but people want the originals of the kompromat.  Who knows, they may have insisted upon the originals of the nuclear secrets because they knew he wasn't bright enough to be trusted with them.

We don't know that they weren't copied in some manner.  We have no idea what DoJ actually knows.  Maybe they intercepted something.


Maintaining my dark horse bet: The "informant" is a ghost of parallel construction. The NSA or CIA intercepted either an explicitly stated intent to sell, or an actual document that was a canary, and had to take it all back ASAP.
 
2022-08-18 9:54:22 PM  
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2022-08-18 10:03:20 PM  
There's a funny scene in the Steve Martin movie Roxanne where he, as chief of the fire department, expansively describes his dream that one day the people of his town would think that calling the fire department would be a good idea.

I have my own expansive dream that Trump goes down for violating the law making mishandling of government documents a felony. The law he harangued into existence.

Now, imagine the poster for the movie of this: Trump lying in a circle trying to swallow his own foot. The Great Worm: Our Bore Us.
 
2022-08-18 10:23:24 PM  

Mikey1969: "Mystery"? Really?

He's a narcissist who is convinced that even in a sold out football stadium with 80,000 people in attendance, he is the smartest one in the room. He "knows" that he is smarter than the intelligence community, the generals, people who are good at "the cyber", and so on.

You think he was going to listen to lawyers? If you want Trump to do something, you just need to convince him that the "Deep State" doesn't want him to do it. It's 100% reverse psychology with this clown.


Or they could hit him with a hammer until he did what he was told.
Surprised no one did that.
 
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