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(Axios)   Taliban Afghanistan government faces violence likely perpetrated by radical Islamic political group   (axios.com) divider line
    More: Ironic, Pakistan, Taliban, Afghanistan, Afghan capital Kabul, Kabul, big picture, Hazara people, United States  
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946 clicks; posted to Politics » on 18 Aug 2022 at 10:20 PM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-18 7:00:17 PM  
Guess they're finding out how much harder it is to govern rather than oppose.
 
2022-08-18 10:25:03 PM  
Here comes the obligatory "Let them fight" gif
 
2022-08-18 10:25:57 PM  

aleister_greynight: Guess they're finding out how much harder it is to govern rather than oppose.


Yeah, after the USA did nothing but oppose for 20 years. Keep stomping that Muslim face, American, it's what you know how to do.
 
2022-08-18 10:33:54 PM  

aleister_greynight: Guess they're finding out how much harder it is to govern rather than oppose.


Guess they're finding out that supporting people blowing shiat up doesn't stop just because the infidels leave. I feel bad for the average nobodies who want nothing to do with this crap, but are caught in the crossfire.

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2022-08-18 10:39:57 PM  
How dare these people use our own tactics against us!
 
2022-08-18 10:45:52 PM  
Was Afghanistan a winnable situation or is that place doomed to be a backwards stone-age hell-hole?

One thing I think was a mistake was trying to keep Afghanistan as one country when so many there see themselves as a member of a tribe or ethnic group. It could be maintained as one country but to do that would mean being as brutal and anti-democratic as the Taliban.
 
2022-08-18 10:46:52 PM  
Afghanistan--where empires go to die.  And second rate nation states.  And extremist ideological religions packaged as a ruling elite.  And Al Qaeda terrorists numbers 1 - 7824, and 26 additional #2s.
 
2022-08-18 10:57:06 PM  
Even more ironic is that the Taliban are not Shia, but a fairly close offshoot of Sunni Islam. It's like a war between Methodists and Baptists.
 
2022-08-18 11:15:05 PM  

Maziou: Here comes the obligatory "Let them fight" gif


Works for the neocons too.
 
2022-08-18 11:42:48 PM  
can't wait for Al-Qaida to join in too
 
2022-08-19 12:05:39 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Even more ironic is that the Taliban are not Shia, but a fairly close offshoot of Sunni Islam. It's like a war between Methodists and Baptists.


Summon Emo!
 
2022-08-19 12:11:45 AM  
Remember there are people that think groups like the Proud Boys aren't fascist enough
 
2022-08-19 12:15:17 AM  

Befuddled: Was Afghanistan a winnable situation


Maybe by means of the Ghengis Khan approach of spending a generation killing every man, woman, child, and farm animal found, and leaving a network of fortified garrisons.

That allowed his empire to hold the area for another generation or so, until the garrison commanders revolted and became a problem next for Tamujin Khan.
 
2022-08-19 12:19:24 AM  
I keep seeing evidence that letting religious fanatics take over your country seems to be a bad idea.
 
2022-08-19 12:36:18 AM  

jso2897: I keep seeing evidence that letting religious fanatics take over your country seems to be a bad idea.


Well I voted for Kodos.
 
2022-08-19 4:43:48 AM  

Maziou: Here comes the obligatory "Let them fight" gif


I know it sounds horrible, but we really should be favoring the Taliban in this fight. They're much more inclined to take their fight into the Western world by employing terror attacks than the Taliban are.
 
2022-08-19 4:44:29 AM  
I know it sounds horrible, but we really should be favoring the Taliban in this fight. ISIS are much more inclined to take their fight into the Western world by employing terror attacks than the Taliban are.

/FTFM
 
2022-08-19 5:58:31 AM  

Summoner101: jso2897: I keep seeing evidence that letting religious fanatics take over your country seems to be a bad idea.

Well I voted for Kodos.


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2022-08-19 8:45:53 AM  

Befuddled: Was Afghanistan a winnable situation or is that place doomed to be a backwards stone-age hell-hole?


Alexander the Great didn't want it, and he played on Hard Mode.
 
2022-08-19 8:53:18 AM  

neaorin: Maziou: Here comes the obligatory "Let them fight" gif

I know it sounds horrible, but we really should be favoring the Taliban in this fight. They're much more inclined to take their fight into the Western world by employing terror attacks than the Taliban are.


We should learn by now not to meddle in the affairs of other countries because frankly, we really, really suck at it.

It's not that there aren't human rights situations where we shouldn't feel obligated to interfere because common folk are suffering.  And I'm not indifferent to that, truly.

The problem is that we go in thinking we are going to make things better and we end up making things worse.  And then 100k common folk we were trying to help end up blown up by our bombs.

It's time we sent just humanitarian aid and let other countries step in if they want.   Let somebody else try because we just fark things up too badly.
 
2022-08-19 9:57:17 AM  

rga184: neaorin: Maziou: Here comes the obligatory "Let them fight" gif

I know it sounds horrible, but we really should be favoring the Taliban in this fight. They're much more inclined to take their fight into the Western world by employing terror attacks than the Taliban are.


We should learn by now not to meddle in the affairs of other countries because frankly, we really, really suck at it.


There are degrees to this thing. We should definitely stop trying to do nation building, by going in and invading countries then just hoping they will somehow become westernized. That doesn't work, and wouldn't work even if we didn't suck at it.

But we should meddle when it makes sense to do so. That's whenever our own citizens or allies would be put in danger, AND we can do something about it. That's why we went into Syria to help take out ISIS: because Assad and his pals weren't going to do it, and because ISIS in Syria / Iraq had the resources and disposition to carry out terrorist attacks in the West. We didn't try to topple Assad, bad as he might have been, but taking out ISIS' state in Syria and Iraq was a good thing to do.

Supporting the Saudi monarchy - by selling them weapons, having bases there etc - is another example of "good" meddling. Ideologically they're not that far away from the Taliban. They are richer than the Taliban - so they can keep their citizens fed and secure so they don't revolt - and their monarchy has a lot more power than the Taliban central government, so it can keep the Wahhabi fundamentalists somewhat in check.

However, if the Saudi monarchy were ever to collapse, it's likely that what would take its place would look a lot like the Taliban or ISIS, and not like a Westminster system. So it's in our interest to try to make sure that doesn't happen.
 
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