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(MIT Technology Review)   Social media is polluting society. Moderation alone won't fix the problem. Paying $8 a month will, however   (technologyreview.com) divider line
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2022-08-17 9:40:20 AM  
I want to be exposed to speech that is inappropriate or crosses a line. Where's the fun otherwise?
 
2022-08-17 9:58:24 AM  
Companies could implement protocols themselves, but their financial interests too often run counter to meaningful limitations on product development and growth.

Wait. This appears to be saying companies cannot be trusted to self-regulate because that runs directly contrary to their actual purpose, which is to earn a profit. But that can't be true. I've been repeatedly assured that in a capitalist system, companies are incentivized to self-regulate because that's what the consumer wants, and so companies will always choose to self-regulate to serve their own long-term interests.

I therefore have to assume that this "article" was written by some sort of anti-capitalist agent, possibly in the service of Antifa and funded by Soros, who is actually advancing a communist, socialist, fascist, anarchist agenda. That shouldn't be allowed here.
 
2022-08-17 10:12:47 AM  

syrynxx: I want to be exposed to speech that is inappropriate or crosses a line. Where's the fun otherwise?


That costs 10 bucks a month

Well, used to be 5, and used to cross lines.
 
2022-08-17 10:26:33 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Companies could implement protocols themselves, but their financial interests too often run counter to meaningful limitations on product development and growth.

Wait. This appears to be saying companies cannot be trusted to self-regulate because that runs directly contrary to their actual purpose, which is to earn a profit. But that can't be true. I've been repeatedly assured that in a capitalist system, companies are incentivized to self-regulate because that's what the consumer wants, and so companies will always choose to self-regulate to serve their own long-term interests.

I therefore have to assume that this "article" was written by some sort of anti-capitalist agent, possibly in the service of Antifa and funded by Soros, who is actually advancing a communist, socialist, fascist, anarchist agenda. That shouldn't be allowed here.


I was recently invited to speak at a chamber of commerce luncheon in October about why it's so hard to find employees. I'm strongly tempted string together a number of your posts.
 
2022-08-17 10:29:07 AM  
Social media isn't the problem, people are.

It used to be that the rednecks and racists were too far away for you to hear them.
Now everybody can hear everybody, and what a lot of what the loudest people say is offensive as hell.

If people were just decent people, social media would be lovely.
 
2022-08-17 10:30:32 AM  

Chabash: I was recently invited to speak at a chamber of commerce luncheon in October about why it's so hard to find employees. I'm strongly tempted string together a number of your posts.


I hereby grant permission for you to use my posts for such a purpose, with the one condition being that you must use the term "escape goat" somewhere in the speech.
 
2022-08-17 10:31:18 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Social media isn't the problem, people are.

It used to be that the rednecks and racists were too far away for you to hear them.
Now everybody can hear everybody, and what a lot of what the loudest people say is offensive as hell.

If people were just decent people, social media would be lovely.


Also, just like micro aggressions, what could be a semi innocent bit of assholery becomes overwhelming when all those dickheads get together to justify their dickery.
 
2022-08-17 10:38:07 AM  
Moderating is tough... I get time outs every once in awhile, here and elsewhere and I should. Sometimes I go too far and someone needs to say "knock it off."

It's incredibly important for the internet, in my opinion. Without some kind of content moderation, it's just Barter Town.

Now, we can debate that sometimes it's right or wrong, but I've learned over time that for every wrong I THINK they have made... i know they they let me slide 4-500 times before but sometimes you just have to say STOP.

The Twitter stuff is just insane to me. They will let you back (usually) if you just delete the hateful/hurtful/idiotic tweet and people take it as a badge of courage not to do that. That's just being a f*cking child.

At the end of the day, people need boundaries and if they can't either abide by them or at least learn from getting spanked every now and then, then they should get kicked off the f*cking net forever.

Because, as we all see, the lack of moderation and control is filtering into society and we're all worse off for it.
 
2022-08-17 10:46:35 AM  
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2022-08-17 10:47:36 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Chabash: I was recently invited to speak at a chamber of commerce luncheon in October about why it's so hard to find employees. I'm strongly tempted string together a number of your posts.

I hereby grant permission for you to use my posts for such a purpose, with the one condition being that you must use the term "escape goat" somewhere in the speech.


I was going to have our regional economist talk, but I think that this will be better. Since it is a rural chamber, I should have no problem fitting escape goats into the speech.
 
2022-08-17 10:49:05 AM  

Chabash: Pocket Ninja: Chabash: I was recently invited to speak at a chamber of commerce luncheon in October about why it's so hard to find employees. I'm strongly tempted string together a number of your posts.

I hereby grant permission for you to use my posts for such a purpose, with the one condition being that you must use the term "escape goat" somewhere in the speech.

I was going to have our regional economist talk, but I think that this will be better. Since it is a rural chamber, I should have no problem fitting escape goats into the speech.


May we have a transcript, please? I'd love to see this.
 
2022-08-17 10:49:08 AM  
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2022-08-17 10:52:50 AM  
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2022-08-17 11:20:15 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: syrynxx: I want to be exposed to speech that is inappropriate or crosses a line. Where's the fun otherwise?

That costs 10 bucks a month

Well, used to be 5, and used to cross lines.


It's all about the grift
 
2022-08-17 11:25:42 AM  
Use negative reinforcement.  Hire someone to smack you in the head every time you log into Facebook.
 
2022-08-17 11:34:56 AM  
Nobody can read that article you know.  Thus illustrating the problem.

Let me guess--social media is ruining us all with its garbage.  So they're going to use psychology to try to solve the problem, perfectly ignoring the fact that if they'd used psychology when they started with their mind-melting garbage, it would not only have told them that, it would have told them that such techology is dangerous for society and won't  help us with our problems at all.

IN FACT, data engineers already know all this, because they're using psychological techniques to build those algorithms that hook us into social media sites and keep us hooked.  They know exactly what they're doing, but they tell you clowns that they CARE about how you're being poisoned by their addictive products and platforms, and you believe them, because you're a junkie and a cheap sell and you'd rather read nice soothing articles by the AI  pukes at MIT than admit who you've become.

Is that about right?
 
2022-08-17 11:39:05 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Companies could implement protocols themselves, but their financial interests too often run counter to meaningful limitations on product development and growth.

Wait. This appears to be saying companies cannot be trusted to self-regulate because that runs directly contrary to their actual purpose, which is to earn a profit. But that can't be true. I've been repeatedly assured that in a capitalist system, companies are incentivized to self-regulate because that's what the consumer wants, and so companies will always choose to self-regulate to serve their own long-term interests.

I therefore have to assume that this "article" was written by some sort of anti-capitalist agent, possibly in the service of Antifa and funded by Soros, who is actually advancing a communist, socialist, fascist, anarchist agenda. That shouldn't be allowed here.


You seem to confuse the consumer with customer. It works as intended for their customers, consumers be damned.
 
2022-08-17 11:41:46 AM  
Free media/news/information is worth what you pay for it. You're the product being sold.

If you want quality, be the customer paying for a quality product. Not the product being fed what others are paying for them to feed you.
 
2022-08-17 12:01:49 PM  

syrynxx: I want to be exposed to speech that is inappropriate or crosses a line. Where's the fun otherwise?


Abuse!
Youtube 5BRc5zV4YKU
 
2022-08-17 12:13:19 PM  
FTA: "...They hire in-house moderators to examine individual pieces of content and remove them if posts violate predefined rules set by the platforms."

They don't hire nearly goddamn enough
 
2022-08-17 12:33:35 PM  

cryinoutloud: Nobody can read that article you know.  Thus illustrating the problem.

Let me guess--social media is ruining us all with its garbage.  So they're going to use psychology to try to solve the problem, perfectly ignoring the fact that if they'd used psychology when they started with their mind-melting garbage, it would not only have told them that, it would have told them that such techology is dangerous for society and won't  help us with our problems at all.

IN FACT, data engineers already know all this, because they're using psychological techniques to build those algorithms that hook us into social media sites and keep us hooked.  They know exactly what they're doing, but they tell you clowns that they CARE about how you're being poisoned by their addictive products and platforms, and you believe them, because you're a junkie and a cheap sell and you'd rather read nice soothing articles by the AI  pukes at MIT than admit who you've become.

Is that about right?


Pretty close.

The only time a limit would get enforced is if a direct threat to the money flow is apparent.
 
2022-08-17 1:05:46 PM  
Fark is kind of social media, and it certainly has poisoned my mind.

Thanks, Fark!
 
2022-08-17 1:15:16 PM  
So who gets to decide what is OK to say?

Is this going to be the "thought police"?
 
2022-08-17 2:51:24 PM  

DuneClimber: Fark is kind of social media, and it certainly has poisoned my mind.

Thanks, Fark!


Fark gave me an irrational fear of slotted chairs.
 
2022-08-17 3:36:56 PM  

tricycleracer: DuneClimber: Fark is kind of social media, and it certainly has poisoned my mind.

Thanks, Fark!

Fark gave me an irrational fear of slotted chairs.


It's not irrational if you've seen the post trauma photos.
 
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