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(Guardian)   If the train you're on is suddenly surrounded by a wildfire, stay on the train and wait for the driver to reverse out of the fire. Don't break the windows and jump out only to realize you were better off on board   (theguardian.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Valencian Community, Spain, forest fire, eastern province of Valencia, Valencian president, high winds, Ximo Puig, Provinces of Spain  
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2022-08-17 6:35:10 AM  
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2022-08-17 6:41:43 AM  
Panicking people do stupid things.  As a kid I read a story about a woman who was so scared of the helicopter she was travelling in crashing that she jumped out of it at 1,200 ft.
 
Xai
2022-08-17 6:43:02 AM  
As a train driver I can confirm that a)  trains are specifically designed to prevent fire outside from getting inside for as long as possible (mostly due to the risk of the engine catching fire below the carriage). And b)  crucially they likely endangered everyone else as the emergency brakes will be engaged as soon as they break open the door.

You're always safer in the train.  Listen to staff, if we tell you to evacuate them do so.
 
2022-08-17 7:07:23 AM  
So the flames in Spain stay mainly off the train?
 
2022-08-17 7:15:33 AM  
The flame in Spain stays, mainly, off of the train....
 
2022-08-17 7:15:53 AM  

Xai: As a train driver I can confirm that a)  trains are specifically designed to prevent fire outside from getting inside for as long as possible (mostly due to the risk of the engine catching fire below the carriage). And b)  crucially they likely endangered everyone else as the emergency brakes will be engaged as soon as they break open the door.

You're always safer in the train.  Listen to staff, if we tell you to evacuate them do so.


So, what I'm hearing in your post is "any train, at anytime, can burst into flames."
 
2022-08-17 7:16:27 AM  

Hoax_Device: So the flames in Spain stay mainly off the train?


Mine is better.
 
2022-08-17 7:32:30 AM  

tothekor: Xai: As a train driver I can confirm that a)  trains are specifically designed to prevent fire outside from getting inside for as long as possible (mostly due to the risk of the engine catching fire below the carriage). And b)  crucially they likely endangered everyone else as the emergency brakes will be engaged as soon as they break open the door.

You're always safer in the train.  Listen to staff, if we tell you to evacuate them do so.

So, what I'm hearing in your post is "any train, at anytime, can burst into flames."


Funny aside, there used to be issues with the journals (think bearings, only old-school) overheating. Plus, you had an engine that literally had a coal fire as a power source. And, get them hot enough, and the farking brakes are flammable too. Anything's flammable if you get it hot enough. Seeing as they're trying to stop a TRAIN, sometimes the brakes get really farking hot.

Do keep in mind you're talking about 2 trucks per car, which means only 4 sets of journals, to hold cars that can mass 100+ tons. Same for brake sets. Now go rolling across some random dusty expanse of nowhere for hours at high speed. Finally, remember that a lot of safety standards are because someone 40 years ago lit 20 people on fire by accident, and no one wants that to happen again.

Now take all of those safety standards and ask yourself if you want to jump off the train because there's a fire outside.

It's funny until you light a lounge car carrying a clown convention on fire.
 
2022-08-17 8:14:10 AM  
What would happen if there was suddenly an ice age outside the train?
 
2022-08-17 8:14:26 AM  
Possibly related to the co-pilot who jumped out of the plane last week?
 
2022-08-17 8:20:33 AM  
Why would they trust a driver that just drove the train into a wildfire?
 
2022-08-17 8:21:06 AM  

dryknife: What would happen if there was suddenly an ice age outside the train?


Tilda Swinton eats a bug bar.
 
2022-08-17 8:42:08 AM  

GrendelMk1: tothekor: Xai: As a train driver I can confirm that a)  trains are specifically designed to prevent fire outside from getting inside for as long as possible (mostly due to the risk of the engine catching fire below the carriage). And b)  crucially they likely endangered everyone else as the emergency brakes will be engaged as soon as they break open the door.

You're always safer in the train.  Listen to staff, if we tell you to evacuate them do so.

So, what I'm hearing in your post is "any train, at anytime, can burst into flames."

Funny aside, there used to be issues with the journals (think bearings, only old-school) overheating. Plus, you had an engine that literally had a coal fire as a power source. And, get them hot enough, and the farking brakes are flammable too. Anything's flammable if you get it hot enough. Seeing as they're trying to stop a TRAIN, sometimes the brakes get really farking hot.

Do keep in mind you're talking about 2 trucks per car, which means only 4 sets of journals, to hold cars that can mass 100+ tons. Same for brake sets. Now go rolling across some random dusty expanse of nowhere for hours at high speed. Finally, remember that a lot of safety standards are because someone 40 years ago lit 20 people on fire by accident, and no one wants that to happen again.

Now take all of those safety standards and ask yourself if you want to jump off the train because there's a fire outside.

It's funny until you light a lounge car carrying a clown convention on fire.

UNTIL?

That's when the laughs START!!
 
2022-08-17 8:48:36 AM  
They should have played some relaxing and calming music over the PA system while they backed the train out.  Maybe something by Michael Martin Murphey.
 
2022-08-17 9:18:42 AM  

The Envoy: Panicking people do stupid things.  As a kid I read a story about a woman who was so scared of the helicopter she was travelling in crashing that she jumped out of it at 1,200 ft.


This is why you always carry your guide book.

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2022-08-17 9:40:39 AM  
But what if the train itself is on fire?
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You're better off jumping into the river.
 
2022-08-17 10:29:48 AM  
I'll panic in my own fashion, thankyouverymuch.
 
2022-08-17 10:36:15 AM  
if they had high speed rail this would not have happened ;)
 
2022-08-17 11:35:57 AM  

asciibaron: if they had high speed rail this would not have happened ;)


They do. It's one of the best networks in Europe.

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2022-08-17 12:47:04 PM  
Your mileage may vary...

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Xai
2022-08-18 2:23:02 PM  

tothekor: Xai: As a train driver I can confirm that a)  trains are specifically designed to prevent fire outside from getting inside for as long as possible (mostly due to the risk of the engine catching fire below the carriage). And b)  crucially they likely endangered everyone else as the emergency brakes will be engaged as soon as they break open the door.

You're always safer in the train.  Listen to staff, if we tell you to evacuate them do so.

So, what I'm hearing in your post is "any train, at anytime, can burst into flames."


you are right, it happens from time to time just like vehicle engine fires and despite even being on one personally as a passenger before I was a driver that had an engine fire I have never even heard of one such fire EVER penetrating the passenger compartment
 
Xai
2022-08-18 2:24:01 PM  

puckrock2000: But what if the train itself is on fire?
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You're better off jumping into the river.


You're better off moving down the train towards the rear. A jump into the river could easily kill.
 
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