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2022-08-16 12:27:24 PM  
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2022-08-16 12:38:14 PM  
I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.

I know he's only an actor/producer but Our Flag Means Death more than cancels out Thor.
 
2022-08-16 1:53:02 PM  
"Piss off, ghost!" was the absolutely angriest we saw Korg across several movies.

Makes me wonder what ghosts ever did to him.
 
2022-08-16 1:58:12 PM  

skyotter: "Piss off, ghost!" was the absolutely angriest we saw Korg across several movies.

Makes me wonder what ghosts ever did to him.


Loki had just told Thor he was betting against him in the fight.  That's what pissed of Korg.
 
2022-08-16 2:07:26 PM  

Gubbo: Our Flag Means Death


I just started watching this two days ago. Highly amusing!
 
2022-08-16 2:09:09 PM  
One of the nice little background things in Thor: Love and Thunder was that the Kronan god was sitting on a throne of scissors.
 
2022-08-16 2:12:55 PM  
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2022-08-16 2:22:19 PM  

Gubbo: I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.


I'm kind of surprised by this sentiment (not from you specifically, but in general) - were people expecting Thor: Ragnarokier? Wouldn't that just have been boring and repetitive?

Instead, we got a different kind of silly, with themes of disillusionment, recovery from despair, and re-establishing one's (sense of) self; and also screaming goats (which I fully admit got to be a bit much after the fourth telling of the same joke).

I also wish they hadn't (a-farking-GAIN) spoiled some of the best jokes in the trailer. The de-clothing scene would have been much better if we didn't see it coming.

// "whycome he couldn't catch lightning in a bottle a second time?"
// I dunno, the crushing weight of expectations?
// L&T was fine, and I think history will vindicate me on that point (my biggest beef is that we didn't get more on-screen god-butchery, so maybe just watch The Boys and pretend Karl Urban is Multiversal Gorr)
 
2022-08-16 2:26:41 PM  
I had no idea he was a kiwi. What the hell do they put in the water down there to make guys like him and Jackson? Import some and send it to WB with the world's compliments...
 
2022-08-16 2:33:03 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Gubbo: I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.

I'm kind of surprised by this sentiment (not from you specifically, but in general) - were people expecting Thor: Ragnarokier? Wouldn't that just have been boring and repetitive?

Instead, we got a different kind of silly, with themes of disillusionment, recovery from despair, and re-establishing one's (sense of) self; and also screaming goats (which I fully admit got to be a bit much after the fourth telling of the same joke).

I also wish they hadn't (a-farking-GAIN) spoiled some of the best jokes in the trailer. The de-clothing scene would have been much better if we didn't see it coming.

// "whycome he couldn't catch lightning in a bottle a second time?"
// I dunno, the crushing weight of expectations?
// L&T was fine, and I think history will vindicate me on that point (my biggest beef is that we didn't get more on-screen god-butchery, so maybe just watch The Boys and pretend Karl Urban is Multiversal Gorr)


My issue with the new Thor is that the main storyline with Christian Bale, who gave a crap about it?  There was no real conflict there.  Heck after meeting most of the gods I was rooting for Bale to kill them all.  There was literally no point in that whole storyline.  The greatest threat would be possibly losing Thor.  Again, who really cares about that?

Big fan of jacked up Natalie though!
 
2022-08-16 2:37:56 PM  

skyotter: "Piss off, ghost!" was the absolutely angriest we saw Korg across several movies.

Makes me wonder what ghosts ever did to him.


Miek was angry too. Rounded that curve ready to stab the shiat out of some ghosts.
 
2022-08-16 2:54:03 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Gubbo: I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.

I'm kind of surprised by this sentiment (not from you specifically, but in general) - were people expecting Thor: Ragnarokier? Wouldn't that just have been boring and repetitive?

Instead, we got a different kind of silly, with themes of disillusionment, recovery from despair, and re-establishing one's (sense of) self; and also screaming goats (which I fully admit got to be a bit much after the fourth telling of the same joke).

I also wish they hadn't (a-farking-GAIN) spoiled some of the best jokes in the trailer. The de-clothing scene would have been much better if we didn't see it coming.

// "whycome he couldn't catch lightning in a bottle a second time?"
// I dunno, the crushing weight of expectations?
// L&T was fine, and I think history will vindicate me on that point (my biggest beef is that we didn't get more on-screen god-butchery, so maybe just watch The Boys and pretend Karl Urban is Multiversal Gorr)


You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.
 
2022-08-16 3:20:19 PM  
Best director currently in the game.
 
2022-08-16 3:25:45 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: One of the nice little background things in Thor: Love and Thunder was that the Kronan god was sitting on a throne of scissors.


From what I read, Taiki wanted to actually show Jesus in the Hall of Gods, but the studio overruled him. They compromised with the "God of Carpentry" mention.
 
2022-08-16 3:47:51 PM  

Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.


It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)
 
2022-08-16 4:02:59 PM  
I have never seen such a smug asshole whose contribution to society was comicbook dreck. You'd think he was splitting the farking atom to hear him talk.
 
2022-08-16 4:16:18 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.

It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)


My complaint about the movie is that the Korg framing was not strong enough nor consistent enough.

It appeared to seamlessly flop between serious and "Korg embellishment".

Still liked it overall, though.
 
2022-08-16 4:24:34 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.

It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)


If the reason for a poor movie is the narrative framing device didn't allow us to have a cool villain and show the villain just destroying the most powerful beings. Then you've chosen a bad narrative framing device.

Hela was a cool villain that helped make Ragnarok better than the other Thor movies. This one needed that as well.
 
2022-08-16 4:30:53 PM  

Gubbo: Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.

It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)

If the reason for a poor movie is the narrative framing device didn't allow us to have a cool villain and show the villain just destroying the most powerful beings. Then you've chosen a bad narrative framing device.

Hela was a cool villain that helped make Ragnarok better than the other Thor movies. This one needed that as well.


If the movie were supposed to be about just stopping Gorr, then sure. But it wasn't. 

Clearly, it's what you wanted, but that's not what the movie was supposed to be. 

Hela worked because she were there to drive Ragnarok and did so. Gorr served no such purpose.
 
2022-08-16 4:41:28 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.

It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)

If the reason for a poor movie is the narrative framing device didn't allow us to have a cool villain and show the villain just destroying the most powerful beings. Then you've chosen a bad narrative framing device.

Hela was a cool villain that helped make Ragnarok better than the other Thor movies. This one needed that as well.

If the movie were supposed to be about just stopping Gorr, then sure. But it wasn't. 

Clearly, it's what you wanted, but that's not what the movie was supposed to be. 

Hela worked because she were there to drive Ragnarok and did so. Gorr served no such purpose.


I mean, yeah. I wanted a fun movie with a cool villain and great fight scenes. It's a superhero movie after all.

/I also would have liked proper Guardians involvement but I understand that wasn't in the cards and I'm not complaining about that
 
2022-08-16 5:06:47 PM  

assjuice: I have never seen such a smug asshole whose contribution to society was comicbook dreck. You'd think he was splitting the farking atom to hear him talk.


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2022-08-16 5:14:02 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: You've got a character called the godslayer. And what do you do with him, how amazing a villain do you make him. How many gods do you see him defeat. So it's got a terrible baddie, which isn't great.

It's a not a great movie, its also not the worst Marvel movie. I just, yeah, I expected lightning in a bottle because that's kind of what Taika Waititi does.

It's worth noting that Gorr wasn't the first underwhelming villain he's had. As a matter of fact, the only truly good villain he's had in his solo ventures (no, I don't count Loki) was Hela. And it's not that Gorr was bad, it's really only a problem of not giving him enough screen time living up to his name. 


It's also worth noting that Korg was the one narrating the story, and so the lack of details about god butchery is likely explained by Korg's lack of knowledge about which gods died and how, so rather than make up shiat he never saw and doesn't have knowledge of, he simply skipped over it in the story. (Seriously go back and rewatch the movie with that frame of mind, and you realize that a lot of the weirdness in the story is explained by Korg as the narrator and that we're seeing his version of events.)

My complaint about the movie is that the Korg framing was not strong enough nor consistent enough.

It appeared to seamlessly flop between serious and "Korg embellishment".


Still liked it overall, though.


These two statements seem to be at odds. It wasn't strong or consistent, yet seemless? 

Meh. 

I think the movie and a lot of the absurdity is perfectly explained under his view. Story starts off on a serious note and, like you do with a scary story, you start off in a muted manner to draw attention to the main characters, then before long Korg can't help himself but embellish the interaction with the god and it's all history from there. Everything, down to Jane becoming inert while she's literally dying, is explained thru Korg's awkward prose. 

The post credits scene, however, was not told from Korg's perspective and notice how different the tone is in Zeus and his mannerisms. Much more severe. Angry at mortals despite being nearly ganked by another god.

We didn't get the full story.
 
2022-08-16 5:21:31 PM  

Gubbo: I mean, yeah. I wanted a fun movie with a cool villain and great fight scenes. It's a superhero movie after all.

/I also would have liked proper Guardians involvement but I understand that wasn't in the cards and I'm not complaining about that


You didn't enjoy the fight scenes? Interesting.
 
2022-08-16 5:39:53 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: These two statements seem to be at odds. It wasn't strong or consistent, yet seemless?


The tone changed without it being obvious that it was simultaneously changing from Korg's narrative to what actually happened.
 
2022-08-16 5:39:56 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: I mean, yeah. I wanted a fun movie with a cool villain and great fight scenes. It's a superhero movie after all.

/I also would have liked proper Guardians involvement but I understand that wasn't in the cards and I'm not complaining about that

You didn't enjoy the fight scenes? Interesting.


I didn't say that. I listed things that make a cool superhero movie.

Although I didn't enjoy the one in the opening scene. The rest were good enough, maybe fewer child soldiers next time
 
2022-08-16 6:18:41 PM  

browneye: assjuice: I have never seen such a smug asshole whose contribution to society was comicbook dreck. You'd think he was splitting the farking atom to hear him talk.

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what's that dudes name?
 
2022-08-16 6:31:26 PM  
Her: "Do you want to go see Love and Thunder?"

Me: "Did you watch Ragnarok?"

Her:  "Yes.  I didn't like it."

Me:  "Same director."

Her: "We have Disney+."
 
2022-08-16 6:35:52 PM  

IdentInvalid: Her: "Do you want to go see Love and Thunder?"

Me: "Did you watch Ragnarok?"

Her:  "Yes.  I didn't like it."

Me:  "GTFO"


Fixed that for you
 
2022-08-16 7:22:26 PM  

perigee: I had no idea he was a kiwi. What the hell do they put in the water down there to make guys like him and Jackson? Import some and send it to WB with the world's compliments...


Thing is, WBs cartoons are great. You know what does well? WHIMSY!
 
2022-08-16 7:53:18 PM  
A little of that guy goes a long way. His improv voice work in Thor as that rock guy is as unfunny as it gets.
 
2022-08-16 8:06:58 PM  

Gubbo: Cthulhu Theory: Gubbo: I mean, yeah. I wanted a fun movie with a cool villain and great fight scenes. It's a superhero movie after all.

/I also would have liked proper Guardians involvement but I understand that wasn't in the cards and I'm not complaining about that

You didn't enjoy the fight scenes? Interesting.

I didn't say that. I listed things that make a cool superhero movie.

Although I didn't enjoy the one in the opening scene. The rest were good enough, maybe fewer child soldiers next time


What were the kids supposed to do in the final scene? Cower in the corner and whimper until Gorr got done with Thor and had time to kill them?

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought they were only "recruited" to the fight because they were there and Thor needed extra hands - probably not something he'd have done if there was any other safe option.

// "child soldiers" sort of implies kids who should be in school or something but are instead learning war
// they were more like the kids who fight back against bullies
 
2022-08-16 8:25:13 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Dr Dreidel: Gubbo: I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.

I'm kind of surprised by this sentiment (not from you specifically, but in general) - were people expecting Thor: Ragnarokier? Wouldn't that just have been boring and repetitive?

Instead, we got a different kind of silly, with themes of disillusionment, recovery from despair, and re-establishing one's (sense of) self; and also screaming goats (which I fully admit got to be a bit much after the fourth telling of the same joke).

I also wish they hadn't (a-farking-GAIN) spoiled some of the best jokes in the trailer. The de-clothing scene would have been much better if we didn't see it coming.

// "whycome he couldn't catch lightning in a bottle a second time?"
// I dunno, the crushing weight of expectations?
// L&T was fine, and I think history will vindicate me on that point (my biggest beef is that we didn't get more on-screen god-butchery, so maybe just watch The Boys and pretend Karl Urban is Multiversal Gorr)

My issue with the new Thor is that the main storyline with Christian Bale, who gave a crap about it?  There was no real conflict there.  Heck after meeting most of the gods I was rooting for Bale to kill them all.  There was literally no point in that whole storyline.  The greatest threat would be possibly losing Thor.  Again, who really cares about that?

Big fan of jacked up Natalie though!


The conflict was Thor and needing to accept that even though he's lost many loved ones does not mean he should never risk loving again for fear of loss. Gorr was just the opposite of acceptance for losing a loved one.

The fate of the universe is just set dressing for character driven vehicles which is what Marvel superhero movies are.
 
2022-08-16 8:26:14 PM  

skyotter: "Piss off, ghost!" was the absolutely angriest we saw Korg across several movies.


While that is a funny line, it's not my favorite Korg line. 

Korg • Foundations
Youtube noOk2yeCB_s
 
2022-08-16 10:18:19 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Dr Dreidel: Gubbo: I was deeply disappointed by Thor. But, I'm still gonna watch everything he makes.

I'm kind of surprised by this sentiment (not from you specifically, but in general) - were people expecting Thor: Ragnarokier? Wouldn't that just have been boring and repetitive?

Instead, we got a different kind of silly, with themes of disillusionment, recovery from despair, and re-establishing one's (sense of) self; and also screaming goats (which I fully admit got to be a bit much after the fourth telling of the same joke).

I also wish they hadn't (a-farking-GAIN) spoiled some of the best jokes in the trailer. The de-clothing scene would have been much better if we didn't see it coming.

// "whycome he couldn't catch lightning in a bottle a second time?"
// I dunno, the crushing weight of expectations?
// L&T was fine, and I think history will vindicate me on that point (my biggest beef is that we didn't get more on-screen god-butchery, so maybe just watch The Boys and pretend Karl Urban is Multiversal Gorr)

My issue with the new Thor is that the main storyline with Christian Bale, who gave a crap about it?  There was no real conflict there.  Heck after meeting most of the gods I was rooting for Bale to kill them all.  There was literally no point in that whole storyline.  The greatest threat would be possibly losing Thor.  Again, who really cares about that?

Big fan of jacked up Natalie though!

The conflict was Thor and needing to accept that even though he's lost many loved ones does not mean he should never risk loving again for fear of loss. Gorr was just the opposite of acceptance for losing a loved one.

The fate of the universe is just set dressing for character driven vehicles which is what Marvel superhero movies are.


The villain corrupted by the magic of his all powerful weapon finally turning because of love is the most trite BS ever.  If whatever his name was actually completed his task who would have cared?  They could have just made the story about him trying to kill Thor because the addition of killing the multitude of terrible gods only made him more sympathetic to the audience because he was, in the end, right.  They all deserved to die.

Now I enjoyed the other parts of the movie but the common thread was crap.
 
2022-08-16 10:25:26 PM  

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I keep meaning to watch that and always seem to forget.
 
2022-08-17 12:20:38 AM  

darch: browneye: assjuice: I have never seen such a smug asshole whose contribution to society was comicbook dreck. You'd think he was splitting the farking atom to hear him talk.

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what's that dudes name?


The guy in the gif? Tom Hardy in Mad Max Fury Road.
 
2022-08-17 7:46:02 AM  

Diamond Joe Biden: darch: browneye: assjuice: I have never seen such a smug asshole whose contribution to society was comicbook dreck. You'd think he was splitting the farking atom to hear him talk.

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what's that dudes name?

The guy in the gif? Tom Hardy in Mad Max Fury Road.


Thanks. It's one of my fave gifs.
 
2022-08-17 10:24:20 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: If whatever his name was actually completed his task who would have cared?  They could have just made the story about him trying to kill Thor because the addition of killing the multitude of terrible gods only made him more sympathetic to the audience because he was, in the end, right.  They all deserved to die.


He didn't have anything against Thor personally, and that Gorr wasn't wrong that the gods were assholes who kinda deserved it is a point in favor of the movie. They made it clear that his motivation wasn't wrong though his actions were, not even because he was killing gods but because the hate was self destructive and he was so bent on revenge he didn't even realize consider bringing his daughter back.

Because Gorr butchering gods wasn't the focus or point of the movie. It was about how both the villain and the hero dealt with loss. Thor beat him in the end not with fighting him but with Thor literally standing next to his dying ex-girlfriend who he still loved and empathizing with the villain that they were right, that losing loved ones is the worst, but being driven by hate over that loss doesn't do anything accept hurt yourself and others and you end up soiling your memory of that loved one.

So yeah, the villain wasn't wrong. He wasn't right either. It's kind of the entire point of the movie, you almost got it.
 
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