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(Axios)   CEO calls own EAP to see how it serves suicidal employees. After being put on hold for 12 minutes the first thing he has to do before can ask for help is look up his employee number. Oh, sorry, forgot the punchline: He seemed surprised after   (axios.com) divider line
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2022-08-16 1:10:59 PM  
Most CEOs I would not trust with a fast food franchise for a day
 
2022-08-16 8:41:45 PM  
EAPs serve the company and not you or your family. Many therapists are unlicensed and unethical.

I've had a horrible experience when I was young.
 
2022-08-16 8:45:46 PM  

EnderWiggnz: EAPs serve the company and not you or your family. Many therapists are unlicensed and unethical.

I've had a horrible experience when I was young.


There is an automatic and monstrous conflict of interest going on with the concept
 
2022-08-16 9:19:48 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: EnderWiggnz: EAPs serve the company and not you or your family. Many therapists are unlicensed and unethical.

I've had a horrible experience when I was young.

There is an automatic and monstrous conflict of interest going on with the concept


Yeah, this seems like a way to get put on "THE LIST" of people to terminate
 
2022-08-16 9:20:04 PM  
Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
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Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

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Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
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This Amazon wankery?
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Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
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The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.
 
2022-08-16 9:23:22 PM  

Fano: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: EnderWiggnz: EAPs serve the company and not you or your family. Many therapists are unlicensed and unethical.

I've had a horrible experience when I was young.

There is an automatic and monstrous conflict of interest going on with the concept

Yeah, this seems like a way to get put on "THE LIST" of people to terminate


Well, yes. Worse still if you take your child there they may purposefully cause a lifetime schism so that the employees are more productive

Personal experience
 
2022-08-16 9:28:24 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
[Fark user image image 850x1133]

Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

[Fark user image image 850x542]

Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
[Fark user image image 245x245]

This Amazon wankery?
[Fark user image image 806x600]

Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
[Fark user image image 800x533]

The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.


Fark user imageView Full Size

Bullshiat my former employer tried
 
2022-08-16 9:39:20 PM  
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2022-08-16 9:49:18 PM  
"In a knowledge economy, we need workers who are mentally strong and resilient," says Schermer.

YYeah this is a "step right up and get fired" trap if ever I've seen one. And I have. Several.

/don't talk to your employer about your health
//ever
 
2022-08-16 9:52:59 PM  

Fano: Gordon Bennett: Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
[Fark user image image 850x1133]

Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

[Fark user image image 850x542]

Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
[Fark user image image 245x245]

This Amazon wankery?
[Fark user image image 806x600]

Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
[Fark user image image 800x533]

The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.

[Fark user image 425x425]
Bullshiat my former employer tried


please tell me you used them to stone your DON.
 
2022-08-16 9:57:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: Fano: Gordon Bennett: Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
[Fark user image image 850x1133]

Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

[Fark user image image 850x542]

Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
[Fark user image image 245x245]

This Amazon wankery?
[Fark user image image 806x600]

Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
[Fark user image image 800x533]

The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.

[Fark user image 425x425]
Bullshiat my former employer tried

please tell me you used them to stone your DON.


I wasn't a nurse and this happened in California. But....
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2022-08-16 9:58:45 PM  
WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??
 
2022-08-16 10:04:20 PM  

My Second Fark Account: WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??


Maybe you should call them back.

You think your experience is universal and lash out at those who challenge that.

Get help.
 
2022-08-16 10:04:29 PM  

My Second Fark Account: WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??


did you pay for it?  did you read and understand the waiver you signed?
 
2022-08-16 10:32:18 PM  
All of that read as trying to give a gold star to a CEO. The only two reasons this guy is pissed at the response time is because:

A) He had to wait 12 minutes to be listened to

B) If one of his wage slaves that his company has grinded to a sucidal paste for years might kill themselves? No. I can't train new people for this. Keep them breathing!!!
 
2022-08-16 11:17:03 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
[Fark user image 850x1133]

Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

[Fark user image 850x542]

Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
[Fark user image 245x245] [View Full Size image _x_]

This Amazon wankery?
[Fark user image 806x600]

Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
[Fark user image 800x533]

The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.


Help you lick ANYTHING? Let's not be so quick to rush to judgment. And do I only get one wish for that talent or is it multi-use?
 
2022-08-16 11:40:39 PM  
I once used the companies 1-800 crisis hotline to report harassment from one of the managers.

later had another manager tell me i should have talked to them instead of calling the number.

and that is when i started looking for a new job
 
2022-08-17 1:39:17 AM  
The cynic in me sees this as a marketing gimmick to both make these companies look good and increase productivity through intimidations. CEOs exist to increase shareholder value.
 
2022-08-17 6:48:26 AM  

slobberbone: My Second Fark Account: WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??

Maybe you should call them back.

You think your experience is universal and lash out at those who challenge that.

Get help.


Not cool man, ease up on the mental health bashing.
 
2022-08-17 10:08:22 AM  
I actually had a positive experience with local EAP.

I had a panic attack in my work area. I'd known for a while my mental health was declining, and I have an anxiety condition, but a full-out panic attack in a plutonium lab was... not great. I got my job done but I was Not Okay and when I went home I had to have a long sit and realize that work was destroying me. I came in the next day and spoke to my supervisor, got sent to OccMed to speak to a nurse, who sent me to the head of the psych program.

She listened to me, let me cry and told me flatout my work area was known for breaking people. I'm not the first. I won't be the last. And furthermore, my supervision is notorious for making it worse. She directed me to a free therapy program, and I started as fast as I could. I apologized to my supervisor and the coworkers who saw me self-destruct but they all seemed pretty understanding.

Then, ironically, lucky me: I burned the shiat out of myself by accident at home. Massive second, borderline third, degree burn on my forearm, big enough it partly wrapped my arm. I reported back to OccMed and it quickly became apparently I could not enter my work area, there was no way to occlude the wound.

Being sent to another work area made me realize that all my mental health problems were, in fact, that first work location. The EAP therapist helped me get my brain back together, and as my burn healed I spoke to the work psych, who told me it would be her absolute joy to pull my permissions and ban me from that first work area.

I won't lie, it was messy and I had to threaten to leave my job entirely and move cross country before management would listen. It wasn't until the psych banhammered me that they realized I was serious. So yeah. better work environment and some relative confidence in my work's EAP. Of course... I work in a lab where everyone's constantly being watched by psych sooooo.

/doing much better now
//doing meditation, did some reiki, just better
 
2022-08-17 10:16:42 AM  
14568 of 12340985, your performance is failing the collective.  Prepare for euthanasia.
 
2022-08-17 10:47:16 AM  

Fano: Gordon Bennett: Our employees are being psychologically devastated by the atrocious and abusive conditions they face every day at work. What can we do about this without improving their conditions in any meaningful way at all?

Give them a shiat gift while handing out generous bonuses and pay rises to executive staff?
[Fark user image image 850x1133]

Hire more staff to relieve overworked, overstressed employees? Pizza party?

[Fark user image image 850x542]

Mandatory meetings that accomplish nothing and add more pressure to workers?
[Fark user image image 245x245]

This Amazon wankery?
[Fark user image image 806x600]

Or best of all, fire anyone who appears to be overly stressed.
[Fark user image image 800x533]

The others will have to cover their responsibilities. For no extra pay.

[Fark user image 425x425]
Bullshiat my former employer tried


Cool, I'll throw this rock at your 7 Series when I leave for today.
 
2022-08-17 11:21:01 AM  

My Second Fark Account: WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??


I used mine, it came with 8? sessions a year.  Could be for anything, not just work related, besides couples counseling for some reason.  And the councilor even said first session "If you need couples counseling bring the wife in, and I just won't bill it that way"

It was 100% private and anonymous.  The only reason my work knew was I told them the reason I would be in late once every other week (which I know I didn't have to do).

That said, there was only a handful of licensed providers in the area, and the therapist didn't end up being a great fit for me, but it did get me thru a crisis and helped me find a better fit for longer term counseling.
 
2022-08-17 1:27:26 PM  

My Second Fark Account: WTF is up with all the places you work at? The EAP at my work: (1) is managed by an independent company, (2) referred me to a licensed therapist in private practice, (3) and like with any therapy was kept entirely confidential by law. I had a choice of exactly one time slot limited to 5 total sessions but it helped me through the crisis. No one at work knew I utilized it.

Are you all making shiat up or.....??


Let's go with the "or..." portion of your question.

Not all workplaces operate the same when it comes to these types of services.  A little Google-Fu and you'll find several court cases where not only did the "therapist" violate doctor-patient confidentiality, but that the company used it as a means to retaliate against employees.  In one particularly egregious example, the company went out of its way to cover up the situation and defend the person at the root of an employee's mental crisis.

Not all companies pull stuff like that, but enough do that it makes people very wary before using EAP services.
 
2022-08-17 1:52:50 PM  
meathome:Not all companies pull stuff like that, but enough do that it makes people very wary before using EAP services.

That and the average person in HR.
 
2022-08-17 5:06:23 PM  

Ringshadow: I actually had a positive experience with local EAP.

I had a panic attack in my work area. I'd known for a while my mental health was declining, and I have an anxiety condition, but a full-out panic attack in a plutonium lab was... not great. I got my job done but I was Not Okay and when I went home I had to have a long sit and realize that work was destroying me. I came in the next day and spoke to my supervisor, got sent to OccMed to speak to a nurse, who sent me to the head of the psych program.

She listened to me, let me cry and told me flatout my work area was known for breaking people. I'm not the first. I won't be the last. And furthermore, my supervision is notorious for making it worse. She directed me to a free therapy program, and I started as fast as I could. I apologized to my supervisor and the coworkers who saw me self-destruct but they all seemed pretty understanding.

Then, ironically, lucky me: I burned the shiat out of myself by accident at home. Massive second, borderline third, degree burn on my forearm, big enough it partly wrapped my arm. I reported back to OccMed and it quickly became apparently I could not enter my work area, there was no way to occlude the wound.

Being sent to another work area made me realize that all my mental health problems were, in fact, that first work location. The EAP therapist helped me get my brain back together, and as my burn healed I spoke to the work psych, who told me it would be her absolute joy to pull my permissions and ban me from that first work area.

I won't lie, it was messy and I had to threaten to leave my job entirely and move cross country before management would listen. It wasn't until the psych banhammered me that they realized I was serious. So yeah. better work environment and some relative confidence in my work's EAP. Of course... I work in a lab where everyone's constantly being watched by psych sooooo.

/doing much better now
//doing meditation, did some reiki, just better


Remove the stressor, circuits will reset.  I know the drill on that one - pretty much everybody is ok until they're not.  You hit your not - been there myself.  Glad you found your way back
 
2022-08-18 9:31:18 AM  
I work in defense and hold a clearance. While my company has mental health care, you required to report any visits to security. Which can cost you your clearance.

Not sure everyone realizes you don't really have to report. So people mostly don't seek care.
 
2022-08-18 9:45:27 AM  

bigdog1960: I work in defense and hold a clearance. While my company has mental health care, you required to report any visits to security. Which can cost you your clearance.

Not sure everyone realizes you don't really have to report. So people mostly don't seek care.


Big same. That's why it was such a problem when I had panic attacks in my work area.

Turns out local rule is therapy is fine and encouraged, but what medicine you can take is limited.
 
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