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(BBC)   You know who would make the best period dignity officer, and really understand the challenges faced by women who can't afford sanitary products each month? This guy   (bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2022-08-16 9:01:33 AM  
Someone had to think it was a good idea to hire a man, but what man in their right mind would take the job?  You'd never be able to go out with your friends for a drink ever again without hearing bloody abattoir jokes all night long.
 
2022-08-16 10:58:58 AM  
I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez
 
2022-08-16 11:09:04 AM  
It's likely that you could just badger a male to do even more, because if he says no to anything, then he's a "sexist whole who doesn't understand". Might work out in the end.
 
2022-08-16 11:09:09 AM  
He looks like the living incarnation of PC Principal.
 
2022-08-16 11:12:44 AM  
Haha - a society that insists on using the term "young people who menstruate" to avoid using a more direct gender-based term gets upset when a job goes to someone who they assume has a fixed gender that they don't think should get the job?

/Yeah, it's dumb, but also ironic
 
2022-08-16 11:13:00 AM  
So is he a bloke, or not?
 
yms
2022-08-16 11:13:29 AM  
Period Dignity Officer is the name of my marching band RATM tribute act.
 
2022-08-16 11:14:04 AM  

mr_fulano: Haha - a society that insists on using the term "young people who menstruate" to avoid using a more direct gender-based term gets upset when a job goes to someone who they assume has a fixed gender that they don't think should get the job?

/Yeah, it's dumb, but also ironic


On this occasion, it really is specifically limit to young people who menstruate.
 
2022-08-16 11:14:28 AM  
BBC almost as good as Chicken Noodle News at burying the lede:

On Monday, new legislation came into force in Scotland protecting the right to free sanitary products.

The Period Products Act means councils and education providers have to make the free items available to those who need them.

Labour MSP Monica Lennon campaigned for the legislation, which was unanimously backed in the Scottish Parliament in 2020.


Good on you, Scotland.
 
2022-08-16 11:14:49 AM  
Sometimes when I visit a friends house I hide snack size snickers in the tampon box in the bathroom as a fun surprise.
 
2022-08-16 11:16:40 AM  

leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez


This post is why it is ok for a period dignity officer to be a man.  Men are the ones who need the messaging the most, so it makes sense for a man to deliver the message to men rather than some hysterical woman on the rag that the men might completely discount.
 
2022-08-16 11:20:48 AM  
Tennis legend Martina Navratilova described it as "absurd", while actress Frances Barber said she was "fuming".

That's all well and good, but did anyone think to get the opinions of Kevin James and Dong Nguyen? There's so many D-listers I'd love to hear from.
 
2022-08-16 11:20:48 AM  

leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez


We need period dignity officers who are dudes because it's dudes who are undignified about periods. It is pathetic and it shouldn't be up to women to fix it.
 
2022-08-16 11:21:24 AM  
Men can menstruate.

Human relations shouldn't be asking job candidates whether they menstruate.

I see nothing to indicate this person wouldn't do their job well.
 
2022-08-16 11:22:09 AM  

RogermcAllen: leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez

This post is why it is ok for a period dignity officer to be a man.  Men are the ones who need the messaging the most, so it makes sense for a man to deliver the message to men rather than some hysterical woman on the rag that the men might completely discount.


Counterpoint: if we men weren't inherently assholes about this kind of thing, then period dignity officers wouldn't be necessary.

Full disclosure: I wasn't always enlightened about this kind of thing. The more I thought about it, the more ridiculous I realized I was being.
 
2022-08-16 11:22:17 AM  
 But...what about the colon?
 
2022-08-16 11:22:18 AM  
And just a mere two hours ago, Janey Godley announces return to live comedy for first time since cancer diagnosis.

This story needs to be translated into the Glasgow tongue.
 
2022-08-16 11:22:49 AM  

leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place?


If you want to do that, that's cool. Good on you. But it would be ridiculously self-centered to go to someone's house and expect to find hygiene products that don't apply to the resident. You expect to find toilet paper, not because he has stocked it just for you, but because presumably he poops too.
 
2022-08-16 11:23:11 AM  
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2022-08-16 11:24:02 AM  
This story really pairs nicely with the one about social decline and collapse several threads down.
 
2022-08-16 11:25:50 AM  
I would have been up for a co-chair- multiple officers, more than one gender reps. Look, I can kind of see a need for a guy to be at least one of the positions, guys who are dads and can't just pass off this kind of stuff to the nearest female. A real man will buy menstrual supplies for his spouse and children and not bat an eye.

However, if he is the ONLY officer, well- I can see where the problem is there.
 
2022-08-16 11:26:46 AM  

leviosaurus: RogermcAllen: leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez

This post is why it is ok for a period dignity officer to be a man.  Men are the ones who need the messaging the most, so it makes sense for a man to deliver the message to men rather than some hysterical woman on the rag that the men might completely discount.

Counterpoint: if we men weren't inherently assholes about this kind of thing, then period dignity officers wouldn't be necessary.

Full disclosure: I wasn't always enlightened about this kind of thing. The more I thought about it, the more ridiculous I realized I was being.


That's the point.  Only men can make men stop being assholes, any woman trying to make a man not an asshole is a nag.  For example, a woman might say "Be nice and stock some tampons" and the man would blow her off and say "I don't even stock Kleenex, I just blow my nose with toilet paper".  Now a man might alter the messaging to say "Stock some tampons, because even she doesn't want to have sex she will see how considerate you are and might want give you a BJ".  Boom, instantly all men now stock tampons.
 
2022-08-16 11:27:21 AM  

Chemlight Battery: leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place?

If you want to do that, that's cool. Good on you. But it would be ridiculously self-centered to go to someone's house and expect to find hygiene products that don't apply to the resident. You expect to find toilet paper, not because he has stocked it just for you, but because presumably he poops too.


I have a guest bathroom I never use, so I guess I don't need to put toilet paper in there?
 
2022-08-16 11:27:48 AM  

Optimus Primate: Sometimes when I visit a friends house I hide snack size snickers in the tampon box in the bathroom as a fun surprise.


Dignity. You are doing it wrong.

Funny, but wrong.
 
2022-08-16 11:33:32 AM  
Looks like a Colon Dignity Officer to me, AMIRITE?!
 
2022-08-16 11:36:11 AM  

RogermcAllen: Now a man might alter the messaging to say "Stock some tampons, because even she doesn't want to have sex she will see how considerate you are and might want give you a BJ".


Sigh.
 
2022-08-16 11:36:28 AM  
Gotta admit, he looks like a coont.
 
2022-08-16 11:36:29 AM  
I am a feminist.
I am ok with this.
This man is what is called a "role model." He models good behaviour and get rewarded in front of other people in an attempt to change other people's behaviour. Behaviour modeling works best if the learner identifies with the person modeling the behaviour.
 
2022-08-16 11:38:10 AM  
So before I'm offended, is this the person who is supposed to personally talk to people about this issue to spread the word?

Or is this someone who is supposed to be running a huge outreach campaign and directing other workers?

Because if it's the former, a man seems to be an odd choice to increase personal engagement.

But if it's the latter, and this person is qualified and experienced, I don't really see how gender makes a huge difference.
 
2022-08-16 11:41:02 AM  
An old mentor of mine said that the price of criticism is suggestion, so I'd like to put a plug in for Gal Gadot.
 
2022-08-16 11:41:08 AM  

Wrongo: Optimus Primate: Sometimes when I visit a friends house I hide snack size snickers in the tampon box in the bathroom as a fun surprise.

Dignity. You are doing it wrong.

Funny, but wrong.


Fark handle checks out.
 
2022-08-16 11:42:11 AM  

leviosaurus: Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works.


I donno, man....lots of dudes apparently can never find the man in the boat.
 
2022-08-16 11:42:21 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: I'd like to put a plug in for Gal Gadot.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2022-08-16 11:46:07 AM  

xanadian: leviosaurus: Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works.

I donno, man....lots of dudes apparently can never find the man in the boat.


There are plenty of men who think women can hold in their menstrual blood like urine.
"WHY SHOULD MY TAXES PAY FOR TAMPONS, JUST HOLD IT IN, LADIES."

/My favorite is still the Repub politician who thought obstetricians could perform a fetal checkup by having the pregnant woman swallow a pill with a tiny camera.
 
2022-08-16 11:50:27 AM  
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It's because he wore this shirt to the interview.

/"Don't dress for the job you have. Dress for the job you want."
 
2022-08-16 11:50:38 AM  

leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez


Once, i had a girl stay over a few times, and one day she had the audacity to complain about the soap.  "When are you going to get soap that i can use"? she demanded.    My soap was completely neutral, neither masculine nor feminine. That shoulda been my first red flag.   i went out and bought some pink soap.
 
2022-08-16 11:56:50 AM  

cloudofdust: leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez

We need period dignity officers who are dudes because it's dudes who are undignified about periods. It is pathetic and it shouldn't be up to women to fix it.


We need period dignity officers who are dudes because it's dudes who are undignified about periods. It is pathetic and it shouldn't be up to women to fix it.

This is the exact statement that guy needs to say.
 
yms
2022-08-16 11:59:25 AM  

Fear the Clam: [Fark user image image 850x478]
It's because he wore this shirt to the interview.

/"Don't dress for the job you have. Dress for the job you want."


I don't understand, his shirt isn't blue?
 
2022-08-16 12:01:56 PM  
I'm more offended he used to be a flack for cigarettes, but at least he's doing good for somebody now.

/I assume he's related to someone on the hiring committee for the job
 
2022-08-16 12:03:33 PM  
was Boston be a man guy too busy?
 
2022-08-16 12:09:37 PM  

fiddlehead: xanadian: leviosaurus: Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works.

I donno, man....lots of dudes apparently can never find the man in the boat.

There are plenty of men who think women can hold in their menstrual blood like urine.
"WHY SHOULD MY TAXES PAY FOR TAMPONS, JUST HOLD IT IN, LADIES."


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2022-08-16 12:15:20 PM  
From TFA: Susan Dalgety, a newspaper columnist and women's rights campaigner

Who is Susan Dalgety? A well known TERF

Why is this relevant? Because Susan is an explicit bigot and sexist for whom a person's qualifications, experiences, and intentions matter less than whatever some doctor wrote on a birth certificate decades ago

Ignore this TERF and move on
 
2022-08-16 12:17:18 PM  
Not saying it was a good idea but wouldn't limiting candidates to a single sex be....sexist?  And likewise discrediting a candidate based on their sex......
 
2022-08-16 12:21:26 PM  
FTFA
...it takes more than a love of lippie to make a boy a girl.
Lippie?
 
2022-08-16 12:22:52 PM  
sorry, not FTFA.  It was in a link explaining TERF.  Also a new acronym to me.
/Educational day today, apparently.
 
2022-08-16 12:23:58 PM  

ElecricalPast: From TFA: Susan Dalgety, a newspaper columnist and women's rights campaigner

Who is Susan Dalgety? A well known TERF

Why is this relevant? Because Susan is an explicit bigot and sexist for whom a person's qualifications, experiences, and intentions matter less than whatever some doctor wrote on a birth certificate decades ago

Ignore this TERF and move on


Yes... lets ignore a genetic woman speaking on various implications of a menstrual cycle because she doesn't tally in the thoughts of trans women who don't experience menstrual cycles whatsoever.

If anything, this story proves why you can't just lump all women and trans women together as living the same experience.    I don't see trans women fighting for menstrual awareness... And if it was up to you, no one else should either.
 
2022-08-16 12:25:56 PM  

mr_fulano: Haha - a society that insists on using the term "young people who menstruate" to avoid using a more direct gender-based term gets upset when a job goes to someone who they assume has a fixed gender that they don't think should get the job?

/Yeah, it's dumb, but also ironic


Sorry, but wasn't it noted TERF JK Rowling that coined that term?
 
2022-08-16 12:27:29 PM  
I'm going to guess they didn't have many applicants with the relevant experience who want to work for $43,000.

Unless it's intended to be a part time job or a sort of contract, that seems low for a job implementing this across the country.
 
2022-08-16 12:27:49 PM  

RogermcAllen: leviosaurus: RogermcAllen: leviosaurus: I've said this on fark before, but I'll say it again:

If you're a guy, even if you live alone, go get some women's sanitary products and put them under the sink in your guest bathroom. You can easily find a woman who can guide you to get the right stuff.

We dudes need to be better allies about this kind of thing. You wouldn't expect a guest to bring their own toilet paper, or their own hand soap, would you? Then why shouldn't your female guests find the stuff they need when they visit your place? It's idiotic that there's any kind of stigma about this. Half the world is female and we all know how their junk works. Literally none of us would be here if those things didn't work the way they do.

/Okay, maybe some of us don't know how their junk works. But we should.
//Not a period dignity officer
/// Period dignity officers should not be dudes
////The fact that we need period dignity officers is pathetic. Just don't be an asshole, jeez

This post is why it is ok for a period dignity officer to be a man.  Men are the ones who need the messaging the most, so it makes sense for a man to deliver the message to men rather than some hysterical woman on the rag that the men might completely discount.

Counterpoint: if we men weren't inherently assholes about this kind of thing, then period dignity officers wouldn't be necessary.

Full disclosure: I wasn't always enlightened about this kind of thing. The more I thought about it, the more ridiculous I realized I was being.

That's the point.  Only men can make men stop being assholes, any woman trying to make a man not an asshole is a nag.  For example, a woman might say "Be nice and stock some tampons" and the man would blow her off and say "I don't even stock Kleenex, I just blow my nose with toilet paper".  Now a man might alter the messaging to say "Stock some tampons, because even she doesn't want to have sex she will see how considerate you are and might want give you a BJ".  Boo ...


How about no.
 
2022-08-16 12:31:25 PM  

mrparks: Gotta admit, he looks like a coont.


He's the best man for the job.  You can just tell he's earned his wings.
 
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