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(Guardian)   How to stop smart devices from spying on you in your home. Step 1: Don't buy smart devices. Thanks for coming to my TED talk   (theguardian.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Privacy, Domestic robot, Roomba, Home automation, Power line communication, Risk, Closed-circuit television, Security  
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1753 clicks; posted to Main » on 16 Aug 2022 at 9:05 AM (16 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-16 9:23:16 AM  
21 votes:
Every once in a while I hold a public execution of one of my appliances and make the others watch. That keeps them in line. You're next, toaster!
 
2022-08-16 9:06:25 AM  
16 votes:
That's why I stick with binoculars.
 
2022-08-16 9:08:51 AM  
13 votes:

Psychopusher: I'm a total tech geek, and have been since the early 80s, but even I don't really care much for smart devices.  I have a smartphone, and I have an Android box, and of course my computer, and that's about it.  I don't care about a smart TV (I'm still using a 12+ year old Samsung 1080P dumb TV and an equally old Logitech Harmony One for a universal remote), and I really have no use for digital assistants beyond what's already in my phone.  As much as ST:TNG made it seem fun to talk to your computer, the reality is, I have absolutely no desire to do so.  I do think home automation could be useful, but only up to a point.  I try and avoid devices that I use my smartphone to control because if history has taught me anything, as soon as it is deemed obsolete or the company that makes the stuff goes belly up, the app disappears from the App Store and if you lose it, you never get it back.  (I still have a pair of Roam Ropes app-controlled wireless earbuds that are utterly useless now because of that.  You need the app to access the DSP controls like the EQ, and without it, they sound like shiat.  Which is a pity because they sounded excellent when set to your liking.)

I'll stick to mostly dumb devices.



I have almost no idea what you said. So I think I'm good.
 
2022-08-16 7:36:41 AM  
11 votes:
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2022-08-16 11:38:36 AM  
11 votes:
Remember, folks: the "S" in "IoT" stands for "Security"
 
2022-08-16 9:23:53 AM  
9 votes:

Manic Depressive Mouse: I like the idea of a smart house that can tell me what I have at a given time. Not just foodstuffs; I'd like my house to remind me that I have five identical black tank tops and probably don't need more, or that I already bought a copy of that book because I get confused easily.

Then I think of all the possibilities for it to go wrong and I don't like the idea at all.

I don't have Siri, Alexa, or any of others. I talk to animate objects like my cats and plants.


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2022-08-16 9:31:14 AM  
7 votes:

alice_600: To be honest smart stuff helps the elderly and I use it to help my dad out he can turn on the lights, tv turn down the heat or turn on the AC at a distance or if he forgets i can do it from my phone or PC.


Have you tried the new version?

Amazon Echo - SNL
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2022-08-16 9:36:03 AM  
6 votes:
If you attend my TED Talk, you'd know about my foolproof solution: Providing fake data to smart devices. For example, at my website, I sell ambient audio recordings of families of different sizes to fool your devices into thinking that your family is smaller or larger than it really is.
 
2022-08-16 9:11:55 AM  
4 votes:
I sleep better at night with my ring doorbell. Finally found out what was turning on the security lights at night and it was another black cat. I might adopt if he comes by again.
 
2022-08-16 9:34:58 AM  
4 votes:

I Ate Shergar: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x850]


I like to keep them on their toes.

"Do you have a recipe for Iran-Contra cakes?"
"What's the the best way to get a congressman's attention?"
"So, about those Hoffa tapes..."
 
2022-08-16 10:07:44 AM  
4 votes:
Yall sitting here talking all that shiat, but when a smart fleshlight hits the market, you'll be be first in line.
 
2022-08-16 10:40:40 AM  
4 votes:

Manic Depressive Mouse: I like the idea of a smart house that can tell me what I have at a given time. Not just foodstuffs; I'd like my house to remind me that I have five identical black tank tops and probably don't need more, or that I already bought a copy of that book because I get confused easily.
Then I think of all the possibilities for it to go wrong and I don't like the idea at all.
I don't have Siri, Alexa, or any of others. I talk to animate objects like my cats and plants.


Advertising doesn't tell you to NOT buy things.  If you already have too many clothes, maybe you need to get off the farking phone once in a while.  Maybe you need to get off the phone, period.  "You like the idea"  so what?  Lots of people like lots of things that make them into lazy assholes.  Lots of people would like to spend their days in an opium den while a young girl sucks their dicks.  We try not to lower the bar any more than it already has been.
Until you go shopping again.

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Can you guys get a farking clue once in a while?

Sleeper_agent: Also-- don't ride in a car.


There's nothing smart in my car, and i will continue to drive old cars until I am dead.  Also my car doesn't make me sign in to drive it.
 
2022-08-16 11:50:57 AM  
4 votes:
I remember about 4 years ago now talking with a Samsung engineer about their Internet connected refrigerator. I asked what the protections were against bored kids in Romania deciding to hack something.

His response was that the encryption was $234-bit and essentially impossible to crack and besides no one would want to hack a refrigerator anyway.

We each came away from the conversation convinced the other one was not well.
 
2022-08-16 9:12:58 AM  
3 votes:
Darn. I read that article on a smart device.
 
2022-08-16 10:12:47 AM  
3 votes:

drjekel_mrhyde: Yall sitting here talking all that shiat, but when a smart fleshlight hits the market, you'll be be first in line.


We're getting there...
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2022-08-16 8:45:09 AM  
2 votes:
I'm a total tech geek, and have been since the early 80s, but even I don't really care much for smart devices.  I have a smartphone, and I have an Android box, and of course my computer, and that's about it.  I don't care about a smart TV (I'm still using a 12+ year old Samsung 1080P dumb TV and an equally old Logitech Harmony One for a universal remote), and I really have no use for digital assistants beyond what's already in my phone.  As much as ST:TNG made it seem fun to talk to your computer, the reality is, I have absolutely no desire to do so.  I do think home automation could be useful, but only up to a point.  I try and avoid devices that I use my smartphone to control because if history has taught me anything, as soon as it is deemed obsolete or the company that makes the stuff goes belly up, the app disappears from the App Store and if you lose it, you never get it back.  (I still have a pair of Roam Ropes app-controlled wireless earbuds that are utterly useless now because of that.  You need the app to access the DSP controls like the EQ, and without it, they sound like shiat.  Which is a pity because they sounded excellent when set to your liking.)

I'll stick to mostly dumb devices.
 
2022-08-16 9:10:14 AM  
2 votes:
This thread is already reminding me of a Zoe Kravitz movie.
 
2022-08-16 9:13:18 AM  
2 votes:
I deliberately things like my Samsung TV a false gateway address (1.1.1.1).
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2022-08-16 11:58:20 AM  
2 votes:
I started getting concerned about smart devices when my toaster needed to be cleaned and displayed the message TAKE ME IN THE BATHTUB WITH YOU.
 
2022-08-16 2:12:50 PM  
2 votes:

DanInKansas: $234-bi


Two hundred thirty dollars....in bit strength encryption?

I like it.
 
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2022-08-16 10:33:17 PM  
2 votes:

TheCableGuy: I've been in I.T. for over 20 years, I love technology but the smartest thing in my home is and will continue to be my wife.


She was standing behind you when you wrote this wasn't she?
 
2022-08-16 9:22:58 AM  
1 vote:
Also-- don't ride in a car.
 
2022-08-16 9:24:23 AM  
1 vote:

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You missed a panel:

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People in this thread:  The government cares about my pancake recipe.
 
2022-08-16 9:26:32 AM  
1 vote:

Cafe Threads: Manic Depressive Mouse: I like the idea of a smart house that can tell me what I have at a given time. Not just foodstuffs; I'd like my house to remind me that I have five identical black tank tops and probably don't need more, or that I already bought a copy of that book because I get confused easily.

Then I think of all the possibilities for it to go wrong and I don't like the idea at all.

I don't have Siri, Alexa, or any of others. I talk to animate objects like my cats and plants.

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I mean I don't know this is a joke but I assume to make sure children don't get stuck in. The same reason you have to take the doors off fridges and freezers to dump them.
 
2022-08-16 10:08:13 AM  
1 vote:
Have no desire to have any smart device in our house.  When we had a new HVAC system installed in our previous house, we specified a non-smart thermostat.  They installed the smart version anyway, and I wouldn't sign off on the installation until they removed it and installed a non-smart version.  Installer wasn't happy because he had to drive ~40 miles round trip to go back into town and get a different one.  Life's rough all over.
 
2022-08-16 10:19:40 AM  
1 vote:

drjekel_mrhyde: Yall sitting here talking all that shiat, but when a smart fleshlight hits the market, you'll be be first in line.


Doubtful. Anything smart would reject them.
 
2022-08-16 10:31:36 AM  
1 vote:
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2022-08-16 11:11:10 AM  
1 vote:

cryinoutloud: Lots of people would like to spend their days in an opium den while a young girl sucks their dicks.


Well... I mean... yeah...
 
2022-08-16 11:34:14 AM  
1 vote:
Nothing more convenient in this day & age than having to update the software on your oven.

/no smart devices in this house
 
2022-08-16 11:38:51 AM  
1 vote:
Well after half a century on this Earth it's amusing to hear that it's a smart move to have a dumb house if you like privacy.
 
2022-08-16 11:43:37 AM  
1 vote:

debug: Privacy advocates such as Vaile are concerned the robot vacuum cleaner will give Amazon access to floor plans of users' homes, using mapping features some iRobot products already offer.

Uh, so farking what?  You could probably find the layout of almost any house that sold in the last 5 years just by looking at pictures on Trulia or Zillow or the builder's website.


It's also a matter of determining what data you're willing to trade in return for greater convenience. For instance, Lackmann has Phillips Hue smart lights - but has disabled the feature that allows him to control them remotely. That function requires an internet connection, and switching the lights off when he's out feels like a small reward for letting a company into his home.

Exactly what data is a smart lightbulb collecting?  It doesn't have a microphone or a camera.  Are people really concerned about a company knowing when you turn your lights off and on?  Really?


It's nice that you live in a world where there are no software vulnerabilities. Everyone else lives in the real world. The problem is that if the data is being collected, its available to anyone that can eavesdrop and break them.

Then there is the simple problem that you can't trust companies just to collect your on/off routine (which, btw is also a danger) and these devices are designed to work with full access to the internet via unrestricted access to your internal network. So yes, these lightbulbs can be sending far more than just on/off signals.
 
2022-08-16 11:51:29 AM  
1 vote:

DanInKansas: I remember about 4 years ago now talking with a Samsung engineer about their Internet connected refrigerator. I asked what the protections were against bored kids in Romania deciding to hack something.

His response was that the encryption was $234-bit and essentially impossible to crack and besides no one would want to hack a refrigerator anyway.

We each came away from the conversation convinced the other one was not well.


Sorry about the weird dollar sign above. Voice to text just decided that I should have that and I didn't see it before I hit post.
 
2022-08-16 12:31:54 PM  
1 vote:

cryinoutloud: Manic Depressive Mouse: I like the idea of a smart house that can tell me what I have at a given time. Not just foodstuffs; I'd like my house to remind me that I have five identical black tank tops and probably don't need more, or that I already bought a copy of that book because I get confused easily.
Then I think of all the possibilities for it to go wrong and I don't like the idea at all.
I don't have Siri, Alexa, or any of others. I talk to animate objects like my cats and plants.

Advertising doesn't tell you to NOT buy things.  If you already have too many clothes, maybe you need to get off the farking phone once in a while.  Maybe you need to get off the phone, period.  "You like the idea"  so what?  Lots of people like lots of things that make them into lazy assholes.  Lots of people would like to spend their days in an opium den while a young girl sucks their dicks.  We try not to lower the bar any more than it already has been.
Until you go shopping again.

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Can you guys get a farking clue once in a while?

Sleeper_agent: Also-- don't ride in a car.

There's nothing smart in my car, and i will continue to drive old cars until I am dead.  Also my car doesn't make me sign in to drive it.


Clearly, I've struck a nerve, and for that, I apologize. Have you tried Xanax? It'll change your life until it wears off.

I don't want a smart house for ads. I want a smart house I can contact when I'm shopping and ask if I already picked up an item or not. My partner and I often go shopping on our own on our way home from work. I want the house to say, "stop! Partner already took advantage of the toilet paper sale, but he forgot to buy fish soap."

Also, I don't even have a Flintstones-type car let alone a smart car.  That means I win, right?
 
2022-08-16 2:56:57 PM  
1 vote:

Dinjiin: [Fark user image 480x260]


Dunno how old the programmers you know are but, when I started out, some of my classes were still using punched cards, Hollerith, 80-column.

I have no fear of technology. Every room in my house has a sort of dedicated cell phone that can take voice commands and take video and play music. (The one in the bathroom doesn't do video). Almost all of my light bulbs are computers on my network, and I can set them to festive holiday colors if I'm in the mood, or dim them down to 2% if I have guests over... who might like to sleep but may also want to get up at 3am to find the toilet. All I have to do is ask the air if I want different lighting, or an alarm or timer, a math conversion, or Pink Floyd. The automatic vacuum cleaner is just wonderful.

I can't see any real programmer being afraid of technology. It's you guys who don't know how to use it that are the problem, picking up malware at some random porn or gambling site.
 
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