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(Yahoo)   Putin knows he made a mistake concerning Ukraine but will never admit it. "I think in the dark, quiet hours at two o'clock in the morning when he wakes up, he realizes he's made a mistake. Publicly, he'll never admit that. Never"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-08-15 12:13:33 PM  
He clearly isn't a Seinfeld person.
 
2022-08-15 12:17:30 PM  
"I have no actual knowledge of the man's internal thought processes or his inner circle and am in fact blindly speculating in order to deliver an interesting soundbite on air. However, the fact that I added he'll never publicly admit to my speculation being true means that as long as he does in fact remain silent, I'm automatically correct. Now please award me a lucrative commentator contract with some national news organization."
 
2022-08-15 12:23:04 PM  
His only regret is not putting more money into buying shares of US & Euro Defense companies.
 
2022-08-15 12:27:38 PM  

Sin'sHero: His only regret is not putting more money into buying shares of US & Euro Defense companies.


He'll never admit it, but late at night, his deepest regret is not investing more heavily in Dogecoin.
 
2022-08-15 12:31:16 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "I have no actual knowledge of the man's internal thought processes or his inner circle and am in fact blindly speculating in order to deliver an interesting soundbite on air. However, the fact that I added he'll never publicly admit to my speculation being true means that as long as he does in fact remain silent, I'm automatically correct. Now please award me a lucrative commentator contract with some national news organization."


Thread over
 
2022-08-15 12:36:43 PM  
I don't think Putin is in touch with reality enough to realize he stuck his and his nation's dick in a meat grinder.
 
2022-08-15 12:36:52 PM  
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2022-08-15 12:37:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "I have no actual knowledge of the man's internal thought processes or his inner circle and am in fact blindly speculating in order to deliver an interesting soundbite on air. However, the fact that I added he'll never publicly admit to my speculation being true means that as long as he does in fact remain silent, I'm automatically correct. Now please award me a lucrative commentator contract with some national news organization."


Even if he does publicly state otherwise, I can just say he's covering.
 
2022-08-15 12:38:17 PM  
It might be melodramatic, but I think we've known since the 1950s that nuclear strike was likely to be the result of saving face going beyond the point of no return.
 
2022-08-15 12:38:41 PM  

Intrepid00: He clearly isn't a Seinfeld person.


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Gotcha.
 
2022-08-15 12:40:29 PM  
I think that Putin, like Trump, has spent so many years surrounded by sycophants and yes-men that he actually believes his own bullshiat.
 
2022-08-15 12:40:32 PM  
"I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.
 
2022-08-15 12:40:42 PM  
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See ya,
Wouldn't wanna be ya.
 
2022-08-15 12:40:45 PM  
Eventually the Russians are gonna decide that Ukraine isn't their enemies, Putin is...and that's when Vlad is in serious trouble.
 
2022-08-15 12:41:22 PM  

ImpendingCynic: It might be melodramatic, but I think we've known since the 1950s that nuclear strike was likely to be the result of saving face going beyond the point of no return.


Um, NO!
 
2022-08-15 12:43:47 PM  

Super Chronic: I think that Putin, like Trump, has spent so many years surrounded by sycophants and yes-men that he actually believes his own bullshiat.


Absolutely, yes.
But now Vlad can't ignore reality anymore. His bad decisions are having negative consequences and he can't do anything about it.
Doubling down on the lies isn't helping.
 
2022-08-15 12:44:10 PM  
He's going for the gold.  How about a grievous mistake regarding nuclear things -- which includes reactors and bombs?  He has nothing to lose.  China may have a say in his plans, too, so long as they get Taiwan.
 
2022-08-15 12:44:57 PM  

neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.


His heart, That piece of worthless coal became dark as a 1000 midnight's eons ago...

And an author gets stabbed.
Wow.
 
2022-08-15 12:46:12 PM  
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2022-08-15 12:47:37 PM  

neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.


Reminds me of a different person who though the could read Putin's inner dialog, but came to a very different conclusion:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country." - George W. Bush, June 2001, on meeting Vladimir Putin
 
2022-08-15 12:47:47 PM  
On the plus side, A rare cheer for the level of corruption and graft that made ukrainian resistance possible....
 
2022-08-15 12:48:24 PM  
Metallica, Metallica ffs, played Antarctica
This poon sandwichski ain't playing shiat
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2022-08-15 12:49:21 PM  

Somaticasual: On the plus side, A rare cheer for the level of corruption and graft that made ukrainian resistance possible....


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2022-08-15 12:49:57 PM  
He'll use nukes before he'll surrender.
 
2022-08-15 12:50:20 PM  

ProfessorTerguson: Somaticasual: On the plus side, A rare cheer for the level of corruption and graft that made ukrainian resistance possible....

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You made me lol..
 
2022-08-15 12:51:55 PM  

nmrsnr: Sin'sHero: His only regret is not putting more money into buying shares of US & Euro Defense companies.

He'll never admit it, but late at night, his deepest regret is not investing more heavily in Dogecoin.


If it gets him out of Ukraine, I'll happily throw my million and a half shares into the pot.
 
2022-08-15 12:54:16 PM  

king of vegas: He'll use nukes before he'll surrender.


Surrender is using nukes.
Like why aren't they going full valkyrie on his ass?

Like, beat usa to Space, yeri gergarian, and the dog, but  yacht rock is going to let your family's fall.
Billionaires are killing the west so battle of wits...
Ok
 
2022-08-15 12:56:53 PM  
You know, if he allowed opposition parties then he would have someone to blame for sticking his dick in the Ukrainian bee-hive.
 
2022-08-15 12:56:56 PM  

Enigmamf: neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.

Reminds me of a different person who though the could read Putin's inner dialog, but came to a very different conclusion:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country." - George W. Bush, June 2001, on meeting Vladimir Putin


Trigger
Gw, terrible...
Al gore is my president for the last 20 years...oh...fark
Yeah, and look up when asked who ran Pakistan?

That draft dodging fark, oh
Clear brush in crawford...

Wipe
Worst ever, ....Alabama national guard.

Ya, heros..
Fark I'm going to barf
 
2022-08-15 12:57:47 PM  

Somaticasual: On the plus side, A rare cheer for the level of corruption and graft that made ukrainian resistance possible....


Indeed. Where would we be now if we hadn't dumped cash in there and gotten a pro-western government?

We would not have seen the paper tiger.  And instead we might have seen a resurgent USSR like papa poopoo wanted.
 
2022-08-15 12:58:33 PM  

Enigmamf: neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.

Reminds me of a different person who though the could read Putin's inner dialog, but came to a very different conclusion:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country." - George W. Bush, June 2001, on meeting Vladimir Putin


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I have years to exist bc I'm a tiger.
 
2022-08-15 12:59:32 PM  

Enigmamf: neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.

Reminds me of a different person who though the could read Putin's inner dialog, but came to a very different conclusion:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country." - George W. Bush, June 2001, on meeting Vladimir Putin


Check out mollie ivins or jim hightower.
Broke Texas and gets my pet goat...
 
2022-08-15 1:00:42 PM  
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Regrets, I've had a few - But then again, shoot those who mention
 
2022-08-15 1:00:48 PM  

ProfessorTerguson: Enigmamf: neofonz: "I think he knows it in his heart...."

This is where I stopped reading.

Reminds me of a different person who though the could read Putin's inner dialog, but came to a very different conclusion:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country." - George W. Bush, June 2001, on meeting Vladimir Putin

Trigger
Gw, terrible...
Al gore is my president for the last 20 years...oh...fark
Yeah, and look up when asked who ran Pakistan?

That draft dodging fark, oh
Clear brush in crawford...

Wipe
Worst ever, ....Alabama national guard.

Ya, heros..
Fark I'm going to barf


Suck it, Trebek!

I'll take anal bum cover for $200.
 
2022-08-15 1:00:54 PM  
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2022-08-15 1:01:05 PM  

ImpendingCynic: It might be melodramatic, but I think we've known since the 1950s that nuclear strike was likely to be the result of saving face going beyond the point of no return.


That's a little melodramatic, yeah.
 
2022-08-15 1:01:45 PM  
This isn't about Putin specifically, since I don't know enough about him to say which particular flavor of crazy he is. But there are certain things that are true of anyone willing to put themselves in the role of Tsar of All the Russias (or whatever position of great authority that you want to make all about you).

He doesn't regret this...

because he doesn't acknowledge the concept of a mistake...

because he doesn't believe in any worldview in which it makes sense to say "doing what I did was a mistake"...

and for the most part, that belief has worked out great for him, so it's self-reinforcing.

It's like if I took a spelling test, but the teacher who graded it only spoke French, so marked it all wrong. I wouldn't feel regretful about what I'd done -- she's the one who doesn't understand what's happening here. And if I can have her killed for getting in my way, there's really no reason to dwell on it at all.
 
2022-08-15 1:03:13 PM  
One-armed lathe operator: "It was the lathe's fault, really."

No one gives a shiat whether he admits fault; it's as plain as day. His failure to admit fault is just another failure on his part, nothing more.
 
2022-08-15 1:03:45 PM  
Well, duh. But strongmen never admit to mistakes, even as everything crumbles around them
 
2022-08-15 1:07:34 PM  
No wonder he and Trump get along so well. Both delusional and unable to admit mistakes.
 
db2
2022-08-15 1:09:30 PM  

Boojum2k: I don't think Putin is in touch with reality enough to realize he stuck his and his nation's dick in a meat grinder.


Yeah, the idea might cross his mind, but he won't admit it to himself let alone publicly.
 
2022-08-15 1:11:23 PM  
Republican's feel the same way about Trump but unfortunately, much like Putin, they are willing and able to let the world burn rather then admit any mistakes.
 
2022-08-15 1:19:10 PM  
i wonder what Snowden is up to these days... other than becoming a Russian citizen.
 
2022-08-15 1:23:29 PM  
It is only a mistake if you face consequences of your actions.
 
2022-08-15 1:41:22 PM  

Boojum2k: I don't think Putin is in touch with reality enough to realize he stuck his and his nation's dick in a meat grinder.


Agreed.

I can't imagine anyone under Putin telling him the truth that they are farked five ways from Sunday.

Instead I'd bet he's hearing some variant of "your plan is brilliant, but it was those dastardly NATO states that slowed it down.  Regardless, we will still win!"
 
2022-08-15 1:45:24 PM  
Although I in no way support the violence inflicted in Ukraine, I must object to the dehumanizing association of orcs with Russian conscripts.

Orcs had crude but effective tactics, leadership, logistics, and training, and do not deserve to be associated with Putin's din-horde.
 
2022-08-15 1:49:38 PM  
"They panicking, I feel it!"
 
2022-08-15 1:54:51 PM  
My thoughts.

The Donbass and securing access to the Crimea was his goal. The initial push towards Kyiv and trying to take the airport were a bluff, hoping it would get leadership to flee and someone friendly in, or leadership to accede to a quick ceasefire and elections favorable to the Russians in certain areas. Basically a Crimea 2.0.

It explains why they were ill equipped, why their plans seemed slapped together after the first week, and why heavy airpower wasn't used against certain targets in the early days. It also explains why they went scorched earth on certain cities in Eastern Ukraine, they wanted a refugee situation and those people who weren't loyal to them displaced, and not have anything to return to.

What went wrong was solid initial Ukranian resistance and leadership holding firm, and the west quickly working to assist UA.

So now he has been caught in a tough spot. Backing off will make the next time they try and pull something like this just look like another bluff, regardless of if it is or not. There is no clear path to achieving his initial goals, (make western Ukraine look weak and be able to influence it, while at the same time gaining control over eastern Ukraine) without actually taking over Western Ukraine, which they don't want to do for a bunch of reasons.

My guess is the thinking is this thing just sits as a war of attrition, he is willing to throw bodies from his side at it, in the hopes that eventually Western Ukraine caves and gives some type of exit strategy to him where he still walks away with something, or other situations cause the west to start losing interest and pushing for an end to this, even if it means Ukraine giving up territory.

There is no out that doesn't leave him in a weakened state at this point, as desperately as he tries to find one.
 
2022-08-15 1:55:53 PM  
Putin can't fail, he can only be failed
 
2022-08-15 1:56:11 PM  
Hitler never regretted invading Russia, even at the end, facing suicide in the bunker.  He regretted that it failed, for which he blamed everyone on Earth except himself, but he always regarded it as something that HAD to be done.  I imagine Putin is the same.
 
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