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(MSN)   Two decades and 100 court appearances later, a man will finally get his refund for being overcharged by an India train company. Difficulty: He was overcharged by 20 rupees ($0.25)   (msn.com) divider line
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2022-08-14 4:54:09 PM  
That's one heck of an axe to grind. Well done.
 
2022-08-14 4:54:28 PM  
Did the dry cleaner lose his pants?

I thought that was a crazy case.   This one bets it.
 
2022-08-14 4:54:42 PM  
I'm not even mad. That's impressive.
 
2022-08-14 4:56:20 PM  
20 rupees is 20 rupees
 
2022-08-14 4:58:51 PM  
Shave and a haircut, 40 rupees.
 
2022-08-14 5:00:32 PM  
Was his belly full of jackfruit?
 
2022-08-14 5:01:08 PM  

Zeroth Law: That's one heck of an axe to grind. Well done.


Axe?
He must be down to a monofilament at this point....
 
2022-08-14 5:01:19 PM  
I just break random pots, and there ya go, 20 rupees.

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2022-08-14 5:01:30 PM  
I love these feel good, justice is served stories.
 
2022-08-14 5:03:11 PM  
Then he broke into an elaborate, spontaneous dance number.
 
2022-08-14 5:07:33 PM  
"But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective
 
2022-08-14 5:08:54 PM  

Somaticasual: Zeroth Law: That's one heck of an axe to grind. Well done.

Axe?
He must be down to a monofilament at this point....


Axe of Theseus. He replaces the parts as he wears them out.
 
2022-08-14 5:10:09 PM  
Is there a chance the train refund?
Not on your life my Hindu friend.
 
2022-08-14 5:10:27 PM  

covfefe: I'm not even mad. That's impressive.


This!
 
2022-08-14 5:10:34 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Did the dry cleaner lose his pants?

I thought that was a crazy case.   This one bets it.


A judge suing a small dry cleaning business for millions because they lost his pants is a lot worst than what what is happening here. I think the guy is a bit weird but he probably think that spending one's free time doing various more common hobbies is weird.
 
2022-08-14 5:12:53 PM  
So, a guy with a whole lot of time to waste, the determination to be right at all costs -- even to his own detriment, and excruciatingly petty and willing to lawyer a minor grievance for over 20 years.

What's his Fark handle?
 
2022-08-14 5:13:44 PM  
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"Jugdish, if you had that 25 rupee and invested it at 5% compounding interest over twenty years.....you'd have about 75 rupee. They're not gonna get away with this!"
 
2022-08-14 5:16:05 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


Not at all. Suppose they were free to overcharge everyone a quarter with impunity and keep it off the books.
 
2022-08-14 5:17:21 PM  

Weatherkiss: So, a guy with a whole lot of time to waste, the determination to be right at all costs -- even to his own detriment, and excruciatingly petty and willing to lawyer a minor grievance for over 20 years.

What's his Fark handle?


no idea, Neve heard of him & I doubt you ever will <
 
2022-08-14 5:20:26 PM  

ongbok: 20 rupees is 20 rupees


Same as downtown.
 
2022-08-14 5:20:55 PM  
In India there's a desperate search for individuality. Even if you managed to be one in a million, there's a thousand just like you. This person now has the hard earned distinction as a tenacious litigant who worked for too long to get so little, but he stood for his principles. Or something like that.
 
2022-08-14 5:21:42 PM  
I aspire to be this petty.
 
2022-08-14 5:21:59 PM  

flucto: Then he broke into an elaborate, spontaneous dance number.


He should of.
He had 20+ years to practice his routine.
 
2022-08-14 5:22:33 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


you know the train company could have just given him 20 Rupees and let it go.

but I guess corporate profits are more important.
 
2022-08-14 5:22:56 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


I think you might want to take the lesson he was trying to teach. It's not that he was trying to be petty. It's that don't be cussed by injustice. No matter if this just 20 Rupees.
 
2022-08-14 5:23:07 PM  
Since it's India, when the court ordered the railway company to refund the money, did they instruct them to "do the needful"?
 
2022-08-14 5:25:03 PM  

Claude Ballse: Since it's India, when the court ordered the railway company to refund the money, did they instruct them to "do the needful"?


It's an Indian thing. Means can you please complete this request.
 
2022-08-14 5:32:14 PM  

covfefe: The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective

Not at all. Suppose they were free to overcharge everyone a quarter with impunity and keep it off the books.


But you are thinking like an American.  Aint no class action against the train in Delhi, my friend.  Train company ain't getting fined or told or whatever.  In India, it really was a horrible waste of time.
 
2022-08-14 5:40:15 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


I do admire his cause, fighting against corruption. That is always good.

He may have spent decades fighting for basically no monetary compensation but he also made a statement that everyone has to play be the same rules.
 
2022-08-14 5:41:16 PM  

ongbok: 20 rupees is 20 rupees


That's the red one in Ocarina of Time, iirc

/got nothin'
//let it go, man
 
2022-08-14 5:42:09 PM  
First, how did it make it past the 2nd court appearance? Lawyers cost money.  It cost the railroad significantly more money to pay a lawyer to show up once at court than paying the guy's request.

Second, how did it make it to a request to change venues? If you include $188 in fines incurred now, that initial filing  would have cost more than that in billable hours for the lawyer to do the research, write the motion, and then file it to get it moved to commerce court.
 
2022-08-14 5:42:18 PM  
Chaturvedi told BBC News that he hopes the case would inspire others not to give up "when the fight looks tough."

Um.... no?

I'm happy to perform a realistic risk assessment and realize that the thousands & thousands of rupees spent on this case by everyone involved, never mind the time and effort, so overrides the ROI that I'd just as soon give it to the clerk as a tip, nod my hat, and farking forget about it.

Because that's insane. No human or civil rights were involved. No one died, or was even seriously impacted, at all. This is a study in bloody-minded obstinacy on all sides, and should be held up as an example of what not to do as humans.
 
2022-08-14 5:43:04 PM  

Por que tan serioso: covfefe: The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective

Not at all. Suppose they were free to overcharge everyone a quarter with impunity and keep it off the books.

But you are thinking like an American.  Aint no class action against the train in Delhi, my friend.  Train company ain't getting fined or told or whatever.  In India, it really was a horrible waste of time.


This, exactly - India's legal system isn't much like our legal system, and there was no lesson learned here but "FFS, learn to walk away."
 
2022-08-14 5:43:55 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


You think it's okay to rip people off, and they should "drop dead" if they don't agree?
 
2022-08-14 5:44:24 PM  
The sign of a well run judicial system is the ability to manage issues of all sizes and give them the attention they deserve.
 
2022-08-14 5:44:59 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


It's the executives at the train company that should just drop dead.  They could have resolved this 22 years ago by simply giving the guy his 22 rupees.  Instead they decided to fight it.   He's a lawyer so all this cost him was his time.  How much did the train company waste on hiring lawyers to represent them in every single one of those 100 court appearances?

I applaud this guy for his perseverance.  fark corporate greed!
 
2022-08-14 5:46:13 PM  

FormlessOne: Chaturvedi told BBC News that he hopes the case would inspire others not to give up "when the fight looks tough."

Um.... no?

I'm happy to perform a realistic risk assessment and realize that the thousands & thousands of rupees spent on this case by everyone involved, never mind the time and effort, so overrides the ROI that I'd just as soon give it to the clerk as a tip, nod my hat, and farking forget about it.

Because that's insane. No human or civil rights were involved. No one died, or was even seriously impacted, at all. This is a study in bloody-minded obstinacy on all sides, and should be held up as an example of what not to do as humans.


Agreed - They should've refunded him immediately.  Good for him on not giving up.
 
2022-08-14 5:46:23 PM  
When this fellow is not suing trains he would like to talk to you about your car's extended warranty.
 
2022-08-14 5:46:43 PM  
Why buy a ticket when you can just ride on the roof for free?
 
2022-08-14 5:47:23 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


Corruption - in this case, the ticket clerk abusing their position to skim change off customers - has far more wide-reaching effects than the direction outcome of any single act. It creates a corrosive environment where every transaction gets a little harder, a little more expensive. If nobody ever takes on these little battles, nothing ever changes.
 
2022-08-14 5:48:01 PM  
Did nobody at the railway company predict that settling out of court could've saved them money?
 
2022-08-14 5:48:24 PM  
What did he do with the money he got?
 
2022-08-14 5:49:15 PM  

the voice of raisin: The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective

you know the train company could have just given him 20 Rupees and let it go.

but I guess corporate profits are more important.


The train company may have tried to settle any number of times during this case but I have a feeling the guy stood by principals and wanted it resolved in court.
 
2022-08-14 5:52:37 PM  

The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective


Hey now, he also pocketed $188 for his trouble.
$188!
 
2022-08-14 6:01:28 PM  
I want him on my side in whatever dispute.
 
2022-08-14 6:02:48 PM  

SBinRR: Hey now, he also pocketed $188 for his trouble.
$188!


That was the fine, not the damages. The fine goes to the government.
 
2022-08-14 6:04:28 PM  

Por que tan serioso: But you are thinking like an American


Very true. Bribes, kick backs, over charging, etc are all common in most of the world.  They're just an accepted part of doing business


Justice, fairness, equality, etc.  As commonplace as these ideas are in America....it just isn't like that MOST places.
 
2022-08-14 6:05:05 PM  

AbuHashish: Was his belly full of jackfruit?


Now that's a reference I haven't heard in ages.
 
2022-08-14 6:09:18 PM  
Fark you, pay me give me my change.
 
2022-08-14 6:15:15 PM  

McDerth: the voice of raisin: The Exit Stencilist: "But you can't put a price on the energy and time I've lost fighting this case"

So wasting  22 years of your life spent in a petty legal battle over a $0.25 overcharge was not a price you decided to pay?

FFS, I think this guy should just drop dead. His purpose in life has clearly concluded and the world would be better off without this obscenely petty jerk who clearly lacks self-awareness and any and all sense of perspective

you know the train company could have just given him 20 Rupees and let it go.

but I guess corporate profits are more important.

The train company may have tried to settle any number of times during this case but I have a feeling the guy stood by principals and wanted it resolved in court.


"may have" ..."I have a feeling"....

ffs, rtfa: the guy said he just wanted his 20 Rupees back, they could have ended it 10 years ago, with the cash and a 'sorry, not sorry" letter.

/I have a feeling too, but that's what the Internet is for
 
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