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(The Root)   Newly-hired Black female police chief notices racial issues plaguing department and implements reforms. White police officers refuse to comply. Does the city manager A.)...okay, it's Charlottesville so you know he didn't fix the damn cable   (theroot.com) divider line
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2022-08-14 1:49:25 PM  
Decertify the police unions, seize their assets. Quit if you want,

They want guns and MRAPs, not on the city's dime.
 
2022-08-14 2:19:18 PM  
There was evidence of several officers making racist remarks. One text in particular read that they should "take out" the command staff. And while Brackney found this concerning, most others on staff blew the comment off.

This is exactly how bad apples spoil the lot.  People look the other way, deny its seriousness, chase "busybodies" off, and then eventually mostly only the shiatty people are left.
 
2022-08-14 3:14:03 PM  
Is this a repeat or was there a very similar story a few months back?
 
2022-08-14 3:20:37 PM  
Anyone here at all surprised?
 
2022-08-14 3:22:59 PM  
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
 
2022-08-14 3:24:47 PM  
Police department...full of a bunch of racist assholes? I AM SHOCKED. Shocked.
 
2022-08-14 3:25:18 PM  

Weatherkiss: Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.


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2022-08-14 3:25:26 PM  
It's hard to argue against "ACAB" when any cop with even a shred of morals is forced out of the system.

Abolish the police.
 
2022-08-14 3:26:40 PM  
"I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.
 
2022-08-14 3:30:04 PM  

tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.



Also FTA: they felt the potential to be promoted to these specific roles were now stripped from their career vision boards.

Pumpkin Lattes = Stupid liberal bullshiat

Vision Boards = Manly conservative stuff
 
2022-08-14 3:31:22 PM  

tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.


That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.
 
2022-08-14 3:32:13 PM  
We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network
 
2022-08-14 3:33:08 PM  
History has shown white supremacists are reasonable people so if you just don't upset them in any way you'll be fine
 
2022-08-14 3:35:06 PM  

fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network


I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.
 
2022-08-14 3:35:50 PM  

fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network


That's all of them. No exceptions. It's literally how they're trained and approach the world around them
 
2022-08-14 3:37:48 PM  

Karma Chameleon: History has shown white supremacists are reasonable people so if you just don't upset them in any way you'll be fine


🎵
History shows again and again,
How nature points out the folly of men.
Godzilla
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2022-08-14 3:40:07 PM  

Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.


Some members of the public might have issues passing the physical

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2022-08-14 3:41:44 PM  

austerity101: It's hard to argue against "ACAB" when any cop with even a shred of morals is forced out of the system.

Abolish the police.


My father, a massive asshole from New Jersey, which places him high in the running for most massive asshole worldwide, was actually a good and decent cop.  Some of his underlings put cocaine in his squad car in an attempt to frame him.

It didn't work, but this is the sh*t that happens.

And this was at a department in a city where the cops really, REALLY need to have each other's backs, because their lives absolutely depend on it.

/Sadly, my father survived
 
2022-08-14 3:43:00 PM  
If even half of what is reported in this story is correct, former Chief Brackney is going to be retiring early to live in her very nice house paid for by the taxpayers of Charlottesville. Not sure you could find a clearer example of negligence and unjust dismissal than what the C-ville City Manager did here. She was attempting to do everything they asked her, but it's clear they only wanted the appearance of cleaning up the department and were unwilling to actually take any of the necessary steps.
 
2022-08-14 3:44:07 PM  
This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.
 
2022-08-14 3:44:28 PM  

Daedalus27: Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.

Some members of the public might have issues passing the physical

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A) Ohthatsterrifying.jpeg

B) someone has to do the desk jobs.
 
2022-08-14 3:45:27 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Daedalus27: Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.

Some members of the public might have issues passing the physical

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A) Ohthatsterrifying.jpeg

B) someone has to do the desk jobs.


...as in, being the desk?  Because that's not a human, that's a piece of furniture.

/self-reported
 
2022-08-14 3:48:18 PM  

Samsquantch: If even half of what is reported in this story is correct, former Chief Brackney is going to be retiring early to live in her very nice house paid for by the taxpayers of Charlottesville. Not sure you could find a clearer example of negligence and unjust dismissal than what the C-ville City Manager did here. She was attempting to do everything they asked her, but it's clear they only wanted the appearance of cleaning up the department and were unwilling to actually take any of the necessary steps.


Are we sure there wasn't any collaboration in 2016 with the local police and the marchers?
 
2022-08-14 3:48:29 PM  

Kalyco Jack: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.

That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.


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2022-08-14 3:49:02 PM  

KodosZardoz: This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.


Them Rutherford B. Hayes wanted to win the Presidency.....
 
2022-08-14 3:49:21 PM  
"In order to dismantle systemic racism and eliminate police violence and misconduct in Charlottesville, we need a leader who is not only knowledgeable in that work, but also is effective building collaborative relationships with the community, the department, and the team at City Hall," City Manager Chip Boyles wrote in a news release.

Instead of getting all up in arms about the firing, I've decided to consider the possibility that perhaps this specific leader was not accomplishing these goals as effectively as a different leader could, irrespective of minority status. Just being a minority doesn't automatically make someone the right leader in any given situation.

(Local reference: David Clarke is Black too. This did not in any way prevent him from being someone who should be kept far away from anything more dangerous than a Nerf gun.)
 
2022-08-14 3:52:36 PM  

Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.


Would be nice to see some sort of graduated training system with a national registry, kind of like how EMTs have a multi-tier system.  You can start as a street cop doing speeding tix, basic incident reports, first responder at a medical event, crowd control, etc. with just a 6 month academy.  To carry a firearm and obtain more authority -- something like a two year associate's program (with option to start at lower license + X hundreds of hours minimum time on the job and then complete level 2 academic program at an accelerated rate).  Have a third level that's basically a bachelor's degree.

Should be offered by state schools -- community colleges and state 4 year universities -- prioritizing low tuition since it's a public service position, or maybe scholarships for people who spend X years working in-state afterwards.
 
2022-08-14 3:53:23 PM  
It's almost like black people have sort of beef with police. I wonder why that is.
 
2022-08-14 3:54:19 PM  

slantsix: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

That's all of them. No exceptions. It's literally how they're trained and approach the world around them


There's a reason we don't use the military at home. To soldiers, everyone else is "them". This is a good thing. That is their job. Police, on the other hand, are supposed to be part of the community. The "us".

Watching the police around here, I think the shift came some time in the 90s. They started wearing black instead of blue and the patrol cars became harder to spot after abandoning the black and whites.

Their training shifted from "protect and serve"/ prevent crime to "we all come home at night"*/ punish criminals.

*"Protect and serve " is now a distant second (if that) to "we all come home at night". See Uvalde.
 
2022-08-14 3:54:19 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Decertify the police unions, seize their assets. Quit if you want,

They want guns and MRAPs, not on the city's dime.


This comment demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of police unions, yet 15 people, so far, have smarted it. Good start to a thread.
 
2022-08-14 3:56:13 PM  

sat1va: Kalyco Jack: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.

That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.

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2022-08-14 3:56:34 PM  

Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.


Treat them like the military, have a national or state police force, rotation of troops etc. No one gets to be cozy. Plus soldiers are held to a higher standard.
 
2022-08-14 3:59:26 PM  

Zeroth Law: Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.

Treat them like the military, have a national or state police force, rotation of troops etc. No one gets to be cozy. Plus soldiers are held to a higher standard.


Nope. Using soldiers at home is a bad idea. See my post above.
 
2022-08-14 3:59:53 PM  

Cafe Threads: sat1va: Kalyco Jack: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.

That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.

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 [Fark user image image 425x318]


I like my coffee like my women: hot, black, bitter and reasonably priced.

Or: I like my women like my microwave: cold on the outside, warm on the inside, and guaranteed to kill any baby I put inside of it.
 
2022-08-14 4:01:37 PM  

mononymous: Cafe Threads: sat1va: Kalyco Jack: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.

That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.

[i.pinimg.com image 480x313]

 [Fark user image image 425x318]

I like my coffee like my women: hot, black, bitter and reasonably priced.

Or: I like my women like my microwave: cold on the outside, warm on the inside, and guaranteed to kill any baby I put inside of it.


O.o

Good to know?

/ please stay away from me
 
2022-08-14 4:07:56 PM  
Newly hired = 2017?

Anyway: Virtue signaling, Virtue signaling, Virtue signaling, internet social media validation.
 
2022-08-14 4:08:05 PM  
Lefties are all Pro-Union, until the Union is not buying into a new agenda on ID politics....so Leftists want the Union decertified. 

Pretty much the Leftist playboy throughout the world in history for getting into power, and then making things far more miserable under their rule.
 
2022-08-14 4:08:54 PM  
"First, she withdrew officers from a regional drug task force which she saw as targeting low level drug users instead of drug pushers. She then made a move to take resource officers out of schools which often leads to the criminalization of behavioral and disciplinary issues. Brackney was also not a fan of special units, as she believed that these were blind spots in police departments where misconduct and corruption occurs. But everyone was not in agreement."

So in short, she took away police from issues that needed focus? Police need to catch drug users as they can often pose a danger to the public as well being good sources of information of drug suppliers and dealers. Police need to secure schools because like it or not, there are lots of violence happening not just to students, but teachers as well (go watch school fight videos from "da hood", sometimes guns and knives are even involved). Special police forces are needed to deal with extremely dangerous situations or to perform complicated investigations to catch criminals in order to protect the community.

Yeah, I'm not surprised she got booted out because her decisions most likely did more harm than good.
 
2022-08-14 4:10:06 PM  

fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law.


This is not true. We do not need the police to do that. Other organizations and bureaus could do this, including new ones we invent.

/unless you are just defining "police" as "anyone who enforces a law"
 
2022-08-14 4:10:17 PM  

shinji3i: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.


Also FTA: they felt the potential to be promoted to these specific roles were now stripped from their career vision boards.

Pumpkin Lattes = Stupid liberal bullshiat

Vision Boards = Manly conservative stuff


Definitely couldn't be their behavior. That'sjust absurd.
 
2022-08-14 4:11:34 PM  

KodosZardoz: This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.


That's a thing we used to do? Because historically the police exist in opposition to minority rights. Especially racial minorities and the poor.
 
2022-08-14 4:13:06 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: KodosZardoz: This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.

Them Rutherford B. Hayes wanted to win the Presidency.....


Yet another way the Electoral College system f*cked us.
 
2022-08-14 4:14:12 PM  
So the original problem was that cops were too racist so they tried to get the cops to stop being so racist.

And the cops have said, essentially, no. We refuse to change.

And then they fired the person who wanted the cops to stop being so racist.

Ok. Sounds like the cops, while very much a problem, aren't the only problem.
 
2022-08-14 4:18:14 PM  

aaronx: So the original problem was that cops were too racist so they tried to get the cops to stop being so racist.

And the cops have said, essentially, no. We refuse to change.

And then they fired the person who wanted the cops to stop being so racist.

Ok. Sounds like the cops, while very much a problem, aren't the only problem.


What other problem are you alluding to? Because what you described makes it sound like the police are 100% the problem here.
 
2022-08-14 4:21:12 PM  

baron von doodle: Watching the police around here, I think the shift came some time in the 90s.


*COUGH*crimebill
 
2022-08-14 4:24:31 PM  

baron von doodle: Zeroth Law: Kalyco Jack: fjnorton: We need the police to keep rule of law but it seems any police department that has an us vs them mentally needs a shakeup. Bring in some outsiders to break up the old boys network

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to start conscripting members of the public to be police and rotate them out every two years as a way to prevent intrenched ideology and keep police power in the hands of the common people.

Treat them like the military, have a national or state police force, rotation of troops etc. No one gets to be cozy. Plus soldiers are held to a higher standard.

Nope. Using soldiers at home is a bad idea. See my post above.


They wouldn't be soldiers per se, not armed like them. The Italians have the federal police that seem to work. The main thing is the rotation. Anyway make them state level and you won't have a problem.
 
2022-08-14 4:25:05 PM  

sat1va: Kalyco Jack: tasteme: "I voted Republican and I don't drink farking pumpkin lattes," said some asshole commander to his new Black chief.

Duh, we know dude. Pumpkin lattes are meant for people, not creatures like you.

That guy's a farking douche. I don't drink lattes either. I like my black coffee to taste like scorched Earth like Pacha Kamaq intended.

And then I floss my teeth with fascist scumbags like this one.

[i.pinimg.com image 480x313]


That kid managed to get the Womp Womp face down perfectly. Wonder how many takes it took?

And that's the 3rd Airplane! reference I've seen in the last 24. Keep it up Fark.
 
2022-08-14 4:25:40 PM  

austerity101: KodosZardoz: This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.

That's a thing we used to do? Because historically the police exist in opposition to minority rights. Especially racial minorities and the poor.


In the US, maybe. Police seem to work just fine elsewhere. It's not so much a police problem as an American problem.
 
2022-08-14 4:27:29 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: KodosZardoz: This used to be the part where the federal government comes in and fires the entire police department and reorganizes and restructures the entire place so minorities have rights.

Them Rutherford B. Hayes wanted to win the Presidency.....


Interesting you say that. An old friend of mine, who passed away a few years ago, was an old history major. He actually read the entire Warren Commission. He liked to trace the beginning of the switch of the parties to the Compromise of 1877.
 
2022-08-14 4:27:51 PM  

Dadoody: Lefties are all Pro-Union, until the Union is not buying into a new agenda on ID politics....so Leftists want the Union decertified. 

Pretty much the Leftist playboy throughout the world in history for getting into power, and then making things far more miserable under their rule.


And they managed to do it without insurrections, to boot!
 
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