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(Fortune)   "Burnout isn't new. Millennials practically invented the word"   (fortune.com) divider line
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2022-08-14 11:27:32 AM  
I guess gen Z doesn't really use phones, so the phrase "phoning it in" needed to be reinvented?
 
2022-08-14 11:53:35 AM  
No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.
 
2022-08-14 12:23:41 PM  
"You don't really have to go extra above and beyond because the companies really show you no love for doing that,"

The reward for stepping up and doing well has always been more work. fark that shiat. Do as little as possible, quit after you already have another job secured, upper deck the toilet and rat out the bosses farking their secretaries.

/I've always found stealing everything I can from shiatty employers helps takes the edge off
 
2022-08-14 12:35:53 PM  
Wait until they find out what it is to be self absorbed.
 
2022-08-14 1:43:53 PM  
I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."
 
2022-08-14 1:55:27 PM  
Every generation thinks they're the ones to discover something "new" that every other generation has known about. Nothing new under the sun, etc.
 
2022-08-14 1:57:31 PM  
lindalouwho: ...it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

I thought subby was kidding, but no.
 
2022-08-14 1:58:34 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


What a concept. All of my jobs I get the same recognition and compensation regardless of if I do the bare minimum or work my ass off. So naturally, bare minimum it is. In fact, many times when I've asked for additional compensation, I've been told to be thankful I have a job.
 
2022-08-14 1:58:35 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


Well, I'm a young'un, only 51, but above and beyond has only led to more responsibility, not raises. And my father had a sign at his desk reading, "Do a little more than people expect of you every day, and every day a little more will be expected of you," so I don't think his generation bought that story, either.
I got every raise by fighting for it at annual reviews and quitting to take better offers.
 
2022-08-14 1:59:46 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


That's cute.
 
2022-08-14 2:08:17 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


I left a company that had a corporate policy of no raises ever. When I went through my exit interview they tried to argue that it was normal to never receive a raise during your career.

It's the only company I ever worked for that couldn't even manage cost of living bread crumbs.
 
2022-08-14 2:09:51 PM  

lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.


It also calls out generation X's slacking. The bigger picture is that people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable. In economically stronger times or after the labor market shift of the pandemic then new workers see how burnt out the prior young workforce was and say fark that. So just a cycle of employers saying you are worthless to how no one wants to work(hard) anymore.
 
2022-08-14 2:13:18 PM  

Alwysadydrmr: bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."

What a concept. All of my jobs I get the same recognition and compensation regardless of if I do the bare minimum or work my ass off. So naturally, bare minimum it is. In fact, many times when I've asked for additional compensation, I've been told to be thankful I have a job.


Yep, that's where I am now. In fact, if inflation is 2% and I don't get a 2% raise, i figure I should give 2% less effort this year.
 
2022-08-14 2:13:23 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


I got fired from my last "real job" back in 1997 thanks to my putting in the extra effort to pull a project out of the fire, and for my reaction the next day to getting chewed out for not getting the OT approved first.

I mean, where's the gratitude?

I definitely deserved to be fired though, because I completely lost my shiat on my boss.
 
2022-08-14 2:19:40 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


I'll old-fashioned enough that going above and beyond results in raises, bonuses and promotions in my organization. At least as far as I have authority to go.
 
2022-08-14 2:20:04 PM  
"Better to burn out than to fade away" - Neil Young

What a millennial... Take your avocado toast and get outta here.
 
2022-08-14 2:20:18 PM  

lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.


Boomers invented inventing, millennials ruined inventing
 
2022-08-14 2:25:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."

I'll old-fashioned enough that going above and beyond results in raises, bonuses and promotions in my organization. At least as far as I have authority to go.


What I have seen is when you go above and beyond , you become too valuable in the current position that you occupy and the computer tells us that your pay is the top rate that can be paid for that job.
 
2022-08-14 2:34:56 PM  
God forbid you tell your boss you're too busy to take on any more duties.
 
2022-08-14 2:35:41 PM  
If you don't like your job, just do it really half-assed.  It's the American way.

-- Homer J. Simpson
  American bonehead
 
2022-08-14 2:47:39 PM  
Like the old USSR: "I pretend to work and they pretend to pay me."
 
2022-08-14 2:48:07 PM  
The term "burnout" was coined in the 1970s by the American psychologist Herbert Freudenberger. He used it to describe the consequences of severe stress and high ideals in "helping" professions.
 
2022-08-14 2:53:21 PM  
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2022-08-14 3:12:36 PM  

bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."


Good for you. I'll take on extra responsibilities when I'm compensated for them, not before.
 
2022-08-14 3:16:04 PM  
Gen X here, Millennials didn't invent shiat. I started out as a "yes sir, no sir," hop to it and hustle problem solving machine.

I very quickly realized I was never going to be rewarded for that approach, and that I would often be taken advantage of for it.

Now it's "That's not what you pay me to do. I'm perfectly capable of doing it, and it sure would help if I did. But if you ain't paying for it I ain't doing it."
 
2022-08-14 3:19:01 PM  

Boudyro: Gen X here, Millennials didn't invent shiat. I started out as a "yes sir, no sir," hop to it and hustle problem solving machine.

I very quickly realized I was never going to be rewarded for that approach, and that I would often be taken advantage of for it.

Now it's "That's not what you pay me to do. I'm perfectly capable of doing it, and it sure would help if I did. But if you ain't paying for it I ain't doing it."


Came here to say this. Pay me the next position up or I won't do shiat.
 
2022-08-14 3:25:53 PM  
My employer offered several early retirement periods through the pandemic. They got rid of the boomers with 6+ weeks of vacation that were in senior positions and preventing people from moving up. 90% of the people that took the package were working just hard enough to not get fired while pulling down fantastic salaries and not having to touch their retirement for another year.

I've got another person that I work with in the
same boat. He's in sales and 100% remote. He's been on a performance improvement track 3 times in as many years. Always does just enough to not get fired. Company pays for him to take his friends (long standing clients) to dinner/golf. I wouldn't retire either! I'd hang on as long as I could if I could put in as little effort as this guy needs to.
 
2022-08-14 3:30:00 PM  

sinner4ever: Benevolent Misanthrope: bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."

I'll old-fashioned enough that going above and beyond results in raises, bonuses and promotions in my organization. At least as far as I have authority to go.

What I have seen is when you go above and beyond , you become too valuable in the current position that you occupy and the computer tells us that your pay is the top rate that can be paid for that job.


Which is why when someone does extra duties consistently, I re-class them into a job that includes the extra duties and give them a pay bump, too.
 
2022-08-14 3:38:37 PM  

IntelDataDude: lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

It also calls out generation X's slacking. The bigger picture is that people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable. In economically stronger times or after the labor market shift of the pandemic then new workers see how burnt out the prior young workforce was and say fark that. So just a cycle of employers saying you are worthless to how no one wants to work(hard) anymore.


Wait... "people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable."

GenX wasn't aging into the workforce in the mid-70's to mid-80s.  Someone hitting 20 years old in those years would be born 1955-1965.  Those are Boomers... I was told they aged into the perfect economy and everything went their way!

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2022-08-14 3:38:45 PM  

Alwysadydrmr: Every generation thinks they're the ones to discover something "new" that every other generation has known about. Nothing new under the sun, etc.

In the video, he explains how he sees quiet quitting, a term he said he recently learned.


All he said he that he learned something and he shared about it on TikTok. Sounds like you're projecting a bit.
 
2022-08-14 3:39:28 PM  

Boudyro: Gen X here, Millennials didn't invent shiat.


Point to where a Millennial in this story said they invented something.
 
2022-08-14 3:50:36 PM  

Izunbacol: IntelDataDude: lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

It also calls out generation X's slacking. The bigger picture is that people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable. In economically stronger times or after the labor market shift of the pandemic then new workers see how burnt out the prior young workforce was and say fark that. So just a cycle of employers saying you are worthless to how no one wants to work(hard) anymore.

Wait... "people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable."

GenX wasn't aging into the workforce in the mid-70's to mid-80s.  Someone hitting 20 years old in those years would be born 1955-1965.  Those are Boomers... I was told they aged into the perfect economy and everything went their way!


From your graphic, 1960 was a high point for the boomers as a percentage of the population. It would also make sense that the majority would have also entered the workforce in the mid-sixties, which did represent a strong economic time. Adjusted for inflation, minimum wage was almost $12 an hour in 1968 to show the strength of the general economy. As per the perfect economy, boomers had housing costs at a lower multiple of average income, far lower cost of higher education, and a greater percentage of unionization.
 
2022-08-14 5:05:41 PM  

LewDux: Boomers invented inventing, millennials ruined inventing


Boomers perfected self-absorption. Millennials perfected posting about it.
 
2022-08-14 7:09:59 PM  

Izunbacol: IntelDataDude: lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

It also calls out generation X's slacking. The bigger picture is that people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable. In economically stronger times or after the labor market shift of the pandemic then new workers see how burnt out the prior young workforce was and say fark that. So just a cycle of employers saying you are worthless to how no one wants to work(hard) anymore.

Wait... "people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable."

GenX wasn't aging into the workforce in the mid-70's to mid-80s.  Someone hitting 20 years old in those years would be born 1955-1965.  Those are Boomers... I was told they aged into the perfect economy and everything went their way!

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It's almost like people lie about the boomers as a group, eh?
 
2022-08-14 7:12:06 PM  

IntelDataDude: Izunbacol: IntelDataDude: lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

It also calls out generation X's slacking. The bigger picture is that people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable. In economically stronger times or after the labor market shift of the pandemic then new workers see how burnt out the prior young workforce was and say fark that. So just a cycle of employers saying you are worthless to how no one wants to work(hard) anymore.

Wait... "people that aged into bad economies, mid seventies to mid eighties or the great recession, have the mentality of needing to always be hustling because they were often told they are replaceable."

GenX wasn't aging into the workforce in the mid-70's to mid-80s.  Someone hitting 20 years old in those years would be born 1955-1965.  Those are Boomers... I was told they aged into the perfect economy and everything went their way!

From your graphic, 1960 was a high point for the boomers as a percentage of the population. It would also make sense that the majority would have also entered the workforce in the mid-sixties, which did represent a strong economic time. Adjusted for inflation, minimum wage was almost $12 an hour in 1968 to show the strength of the general economy. As per the perfect economy, boomers had housing costs at a lower multiple of average income, far lower cost of higher education, and a greater percentage of unionization.


The majority of boomers didn't enter the workforce in the mid '60s. I'm in the middle of the pack, 1956, and I was 13 in 1969.
 
2022-08-14 7:55:41 PM  
"Burnout isn't new. Millennials practically literally invented the word"

Come on Fortune, stay up to date with Millennial Language Association guidelines.

/Sorry, pet peeve.
 
2022-08-14 9:15:25 PM  
something of a comeback of Gen X's 1990s-era slacker culture.

I think I liked it better when they forgot our existence entirely.

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2022-08-14 9:29:16 PM  
Millennials just have a really low tolerance for anything resembling work. My wife and her brothers frequently turn the most mild of inconveniences into insurmountable problems then amplify it with their social anxiety.

Dude just return the lamp to Costco, I promise you will survive the ordeal.
 
2022-08-14 9:46:45 PM  
so it's a video about being lazy and justifying that laziness

wally approved

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2022-08-14 10:06:25 PM  

sinner4ever: Benevolent Misanthrope: bingethinker: I'm so old that I remember when putting in extra effort would sometimes result in a thing we called a "raise."

I'll old-fashioned enough that going above and beyond results in raises, bonuses and promotions in my organization. At least as far as I have authority to go.

What I have seen is when you go above and beyond , you become too valuable in the current position that you occupy and the computer tells us that your pay is the top rate that can be paid for that job.


In some cities if you work for tips and make 135.00 a month or more in tips they can drop your hourly rate from minimum wage to under 3 bucks an hour. Doin' a great job! So great we're going to cut your pay 5 bucks an hour! Congratulations. You made it. Keep up the good work. Customers love this guy!
 
2022-08-14 10:31:50 PM  

lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.


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I had a Big Wheel with a 'burnout bar' growing up. It's that blue handle by the back wheel that causes the driver to do a sharp u-turn.
 
2022-08-14 11:39:22 PM  

Bukharin: lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.

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I had a Big Wheel with a 'burnout bar' growing up. It's that blue handle by the back wheel that causes the driver to do a sharp u-turn.


I never had a Big Wheel. :(
I was already 13 when they hit the market.
That's a cool addition to the bike!
 
2022-08-14 11:58:47 PM  
This happened to me several years ago. I was on a team with several underperformers. Management's response to this was to put more work on me...and told me I had a bad attitude when I called them out on it. I was really checked out for a while. Then I got the motivation to move on. Getting off that team was a great decision that paid off significantly. I'm on a new team where everyone pulls their weight with different managers who are very supportive.

Hopefully with the intense worker shortage, no one who is 'quietly quitting' feels stuck in their current job.
 
2022-08-15 12:13:45 AM  
Well, that certainly was a bunch of words.  I'm pretty sure millennials didn't invent being barely adequate workers.
 
2022-08-15 12:54:00 AM  
This thread is evidence of why so many farkers have nothing better to do than surf a third rate website all day, shiat posting.
 
2022-08-15 1:32:21 AM  

SafetyThird: This thread is evidence of why so many farkers have nothing better to do than surf a third rate website all day, shiat posting.


You're hustling so hard you forgot this thread started on the weekend?

Bless your heart.
 
2022-08-15 8:59:04 AM  

lindalouwho: No, burnout isn't new. But it's adorable that someone thinks that millennials practically invented it.


Sit at home stock owners dont mind employee burnt out
 
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2022-08-15 12:04:18 PM  
Yes, writer guy.  No one prior to millennials ever decided to back off the gas pedal at work, or just leave entirely because of stress.
 
2022-08-15 2:05:13 PM  
Hey subby and whoever greened this: you suck donkey buttholes!

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2022-08-16 12:02:07 AM  
Yeah, Millenials think they invented everything. ;-) Let's define burnout - 10+ months doing BIOS development, 70-80 hours a week. At the end? $159/mo raise. Great company, bad management.
 
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