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(Twitter)   HS senior, unimpressed with spyware students were forced to install for remote learning, uses same spyware to hijack every projector, lock out every remote, disable every off switch, & control every PA speaker in every building in the school district   (twitter.com) divider line
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2022-08-13 8:49:24 PM  
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2022-08-14 3:48:08 AM  
Good for him, and fark the school for doing that shiat.
 
2022-08-14 3:50:19 AM  
All to impress Acid Burn?
 
2022-08-14 3:51:01 AM  
Kids now are forced to install SPYWARE?! Absurd!

I'm so glad I'm not a child of this generation. I have privacy issues. I would create fake information, multiple layers of it, just to hide even non-sensitive material. If I was gonna be forced to install spyware, I'd buy a cheapass computer and install it there and that will be my only "school computer" at home. Then if they want to see my ugly body, I'll wear a t-shirt that says "SPY ON THIS" with a trolling emoji. Or maybe to piss them off, I'll go wear a MAGA shirt so they'd leave me alone.
 
2022-08-14 3:53:41 AM  
Sweet!

This is the kind of thing old school grey hat hackers with cereal box whistles would be proud of.

/25 year old bughunter approves
 
2022-08-14 3:54:36 AM  
Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.
 
2022-08-14 3:54:51 AM  
As a way  to prove a point..I approve...

It proves that the kabuki they make their students do for, "security" is about as good as their system security..
If they can't protect their own projectors and PA, how well are they protecting the students personal information?
 
2022-08-14 3:55:07 AM  
Reminds me of the the good old days of getting the NT domain admins password aka God account by social engineering. These days that password is higher stakes/legality and probably has access to the schools Twitter et al account.
 
2022-08-14 3:56:09 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: As a way  to prove a point..I approve...

It proves that the kabuki they make their students do for, "security" is about as good as their system security..
If they can't protect their own projectors and PA, how well are they protecting the students personal information?


Good point
 
2022-08-14 3:59:42 AM  

Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.


I used to manage a number of controlled access areas with classified material in them.  it farking astounded me how many idiots don't realize that shiat with a microphone of camera can easily be used to spy on you.

So yeah, good lesson to harp on about.
 
2022-08-14 3:59:45 AM  

GreenSun: Kids now are forced to install SPYWARE?! Absurd!

I'm so glad I'm not a child of this generation. I have privacy issues. I would create fake information, multiple layers of it, just to hide even non-sensitive material. If I was gonna be forced to install spyware, I'd buy a cheapass computer and install it there and that will be my only "school computer" at home. Then if they want to see my ugly body, I'll wear a t-shirt that says "SPY ON THIS" with a trolling emoji. Or maybe to piss them off, I'll go wear a MAGA shirt so they'd leave me alone.


Use it nekkid, then report them for producing (via the spyware) and transmitting (from the spyware to the server) kiddie pron every time you power down then power up the computer. If the server is in another state, that tacks on a whole new level of "They're farked" to the charges.
 
2022-08-14 4:01:57 AM  
Back in the early 90s my Highschool decided to put in a kiddie control  program to only allow certain applications to be used. you start up the computer (Apple IIs) and you get a GUI that only allows you to select certain executable

I was able to reset the password by replacing a single file on the computer that contained the password in text file with a simple word processing file.

also was able to put in the start up folder a program that would lock the computer unless you pressed a certain key.  so most would start up the computer and not be able to do anything and thought it locked up.  Got strange looks when I just started playing games on it.

School IT security is laughable, i think being able to hack in high school is part of the education
 
2022-08-14 4:03:01 AM  

waxbeans: All to impress Acid Burn?


Have you seen her???
 
2022-08-14 4:04:30 AM  
Will the school, A. realize the error of their ways, or B. try to have the kid arrested and charged with a felony.
 
2022-08-14 4:06:34 AM  

GreenSun: Kids now are forced to install SPYWARE?! Absurd!

I'm so glad I'm not a child of this generation. I have privacy issues. I would create fake information, multiple layers of it, just to hide even non-sensitive material. If I was gonna be forced to install spyware, I'd buy a cheapass computer and install it there and that will be my only "school computer" at home. Then if they want to see my ugly body, I'll wear a t-shirt that says "SPY ON THIS" with a trolling emoji. Or maybe to piss them off, I'll go wear a MAGA shirt so they'd leave me alone.


Or set up a virtual machine that can not affect the rest of the computer, and run it there?
 
2022-08-14 4:14:16 AM  

Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.


this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.
 
2022-08-14 4:19:50 AM  

waxbeans: All to impress Acid Burn?


Pool on the roof must have a leak!
 
2022-08-14 4:20:13 AM  
A guy I knew, not book smart but smart in other ways, broke into the school computer network in the late 90s and changed some grades.

He was basically banned from tech classes. He went onto be good at welding and died way too young. His sister...she was so amazing but she lost it when he died... relapsed and then committed suicide. Drugs had actually killed her a decade earlier but she was revived. And had been doing well until he died.
 
2022-08-14 4:22:40 AM  

tudorgurl: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.

this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.


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2022-08-14 4:31:22 AM  
Can we just accept that a grade school computer teacher is massively in over their heads?
 
2022-08-14 4:37:37 AM  

Theeng: Good for him, and fark the school for doing that shiat.


He's a righteous dude.
 
2022-08-14 4:39:15 AM  

TorpedoOrca: Can we just accept that a grade school computer teacher is massively in over their heads?


Eh, it's possible you might get someone who's looking for a nice quiet gig for their last 5 years before retiring.

/did I hold a straight face?
 
2022-08-14 4:40:30 AM  
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2022-08-14 5:19:37 AM  
A few years ago I was on a train when a group of girls got on and sat on the seat behind me.  They were talking about how to install a VM on their school laptop and a program that lies about how much memory and space was left so they didn't get caught. Based on station they got on at and the school nearby, they wouldn't have been older than 14.

They also were talking about hacks to get the teachers to not trust the anti-plagiarism software by intentionally creating too many false positives.
 
2022-08-14 5:30:58 AM  
Also when they say hacked I'm gonna guess the student found out how to get in the normal way, IE written down on a note somewhere, password was something obvious, or something equally stupid.
 
2022-08-14 5:32:24 AM  
The password was "pencil".

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2022-08-14 5:35:52 AM  

DON.MAC: A few years ago I was on a train when a group of girls got on and sat on the seat behind me.  They were talking about how to install a VM on their school laptop and a program that lies about how much memory and space was left so they didn't get caught. Based on station they got on at and the school nearby, they wouldn't have been older than 14.

They also were talking about hacks to get the teachers to not trust the anti-plagiarism software by intentionally creating too many false positives.


Awesome, we need more people that both think that way and be interested in doing stuff like that. I talked to a kid around 12 along with a couple of girls around the same age while working at a Verizon "indirect" store, a while back. They said that a group of students had set up an entire network for all the other students to use with both Mobile devices and computers on. I didn't get the all the Info, but there was a VPN to circumvent school district browsing restrictions, as well as access to storage with TV and Movies for streaming, and basic messaging amongst the students. Also, homework "help". As I said, didn't hear the specifics, but it is awesome they put it together.
 
2022-08-14 5:38:37 AM  

bughunter: Sweet!

This is the kind of thing old school grey hat hackers with cereal box whistles would be proud of.

/25 year old bughunter approves


Cereal box whistles?

That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...

/15 year old Mad Canadian also approves
 
2022-08-14 5:41:50 AM  
Meh.  Defcon died years ago.
 
2022-08-14 5:50:29 AM  

Mad Canadian: That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...


Yeah, I'm probably still on a FBI or Secret Service list somewhere, just for subscribing to 2600 Magazine in the 90s.

/and for being registered on Steve Jackson's BBS that was seized by the Feds
//it was a fkkg game you dolts
///they probably thought I had an autocannon on my Fnord Escort, too
 
2022-08-14 5:58:22 AM  

Theeng: Also when they say hacked I'm gonna guess the student found out how to get in the normal way, IE written down on a note somewhere, password was something obvious, or something equally stupid.


Yes, by hacking they used the default passwords, the examples from the manual on how to change the password, and the manufacturers hardcoded passwords.

This is so laughably insecure that he must not be the only person who was in the systems who shouldn't be.
 
2022-08-14 5:59:06 AM  

bughunter: Sweet!

This is the kind of thing old school grey hat hackers with cereal box whistles would be proud of.

/25 year old bughunter approves


I cannot confirm or deny falling into this category but I approve of this message.
 
2022-08-14 6:24:26 AM  
CSB time: back in the 80s we had a kid in our school, who I will refer to just as Bob.

Bob was the kind of a goody-goody nerd who was on good terms with school staff, ran the VCR for the teachers, and all that. Teacher's pet, even helped out with the morning announcements. And he was there in the school office the day that the school's antiquated PA system control console was replaced with a newer model.

He also basically had free run of the school after hours since his mom was the art teacher, so he'd stay late after closing, and ride home with her. Consequently, when the PA installation revealed to him that the PA system circuits all connected in an unremarkable junction box in the back of the auditorium, he decided to play a prank.

He hooked up a walkman in the junction box, with a cassette that contained the Bob & Doug "Good day and welcome to school." routine, and the next morning, when they powered up the PA to do morning announcements, that tape played instead.

The school staff shiat a brick. Luckily he was able to get the tape player out of there that night, before they found it.
 
2022-08-14 6:45:39 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Theeng: Also when they say hacked I'm gonna guess the student found out how to get in the normal way, IE written down on a note somewhere, password was something obvious, or something equally stupid.

Yes, by hacking they used the default passwords, the examples from the manual on how to change the password, and the manufacturers hardcoded passwords.

This is so laughably insecure that he must not be the only person who was in the systems who shouldn't be.


bughunter: Mad Canadian: That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...

Yeah, I'm probably still on a FBI or Secret Service list somewhere, just for subscribing to 2600 Magazine in the 90s.

/and for being registered on Steve Jackson's BBS that was seized by the Feds
//it was a fkkg game you dolts
///they probably thought I had an autocannon on my Fnord Escort, too


One of my favorite things ever was seeing a Ford Ranger with the provincially mandated "n" sticker placed appropriately. I laughed. My GF wanted to know what was funny.

I'll take "breaking the joke" for $500, Alex.
 
2022-08-14 6:52:26 AM  
Ah, Little Bobby Tables is all grown up.
 
2022-08-14 6:53:07 AM  
HS me would have walked in front of the camera naked and reported them for possession of child pornography.
 
2022-08-14 7:01:05 AM  

bughunter: Mad Canadian: That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...

Yeah, I'm probably still on a FBI or Secret Service list somewhere, just for subscribing to 2600 Magazine in the 90s.

/and for being registered on Steve Jackson's BBS that was seized by the Feds
//it was a fkkg game you dolts
///they probably thought I had an autocannon on my Fnord Escort, too


What was the game?
 
2022-08-14 7:05:54 AM  

Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.


yep. Because you know what the perv administrators are looking for.

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2022-08-14 7:15:46 AM  

sjmcc13: waxbeans: All to impress Acid Burn?

Have you seen her???


I'd burn my school down to impress Acid Burn!
 
2022-08-14 7:19:33 AM  

Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.


That actually happened a long while ago. (Maybe as much as 20 years ago). IIRC, where someone (the principal?) had been keeping photos. I don't remember much in the way of detail, but I do remember there was a fark thread on it.
 
2022-08-14 7:19:56 AM  

Harlee: bughunter: Mad Canadian: That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...

Yeah, I'm probably still on a FBI or Secret Service list somewhere, just for subscribing to 2600 Magazine in the 90s.

/and for being registered on Steve Jackson's BBS that was seized by the Feds
//it was a fkkg game you dolts
///they probably thought I had an autocannon on my Fnord Escort, too

What was the game?


I'mma bet "car wars". I had a copy.
 
2022-08-14 7:22:14 AM  

Harlee: bughunter: Mad Canadian: That's a toy I haven't heard about in a long time...

Yeah, I'm probably still on a FBI or Secret Service list somewhere, just for subscribing to 2600 Magazine in the 90s.

/and for being registered on Steve Jackson's BBS that was seized by the Feds
//it was a fkkg game you dolts
///they probably thought I had an autocannon on my Fnord Escort, too

What was the game?


The raid was over his GURPS-based Cyberpunk-themed game book. I don't know which game bughunter was playing.

/  The feds apparently stole snacks from staff desks during the raid.
 
2022-08-14 7:23:32 AM  

GreenSun: Kids now are forced to install SPYWARE?! Absurd!

I'm so glad I'm not a child of this generation. I have privacy issues. I would create fake information, multiple layers of it, just to hide even non-sensitive material. If I was gonna be forced to install spyware, I'd buy a cheapass computer and install it there and that will be my only "school computer" at home. Then if they want to see my ugly body, I'll wear a t-shirt that says "SPY ON THIS" with a trolling emoji. Or maybe to piss them off, I'll go wear a MAGA shirt so they'd leave me alone.


We would also accept "look at dick pics" or "weird porn" for full points.
 
2022-08-14 7:23:34 AM  
I'll add that William Gibson wrote a (non-fiction) book about those events called The Hacker Crackdown. It's a decent read.
 
2022-08-14 7:29:48 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

That actually happened a long while ago. (Maybe as much as 20 years ago). IIRC, where someone (the principal?) had been keeping photos. I don't remember much in the way of detail, but I do remember there was a fark thread on it.


Yea there was an article on here a few years back where a student claimed the camera turned on while the laptop was in her room, I don't know what ever came of it though.
 
2022-08-14 7:32:19 AM  

tudorgurl: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.

this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.


The last few years, we've effectively been forced by the district's contract with Microsoft to adopt Office 365 and Teams. Well and good(ish, 365 is crap). That said, because I do have to check my school email from home sometimes, Microsoft insists on tying everything my personal computer does (that's visible to Bing in any way) to my _school_ email address. Aggressively so. I've been so-far unable to get it to segregate my home use with my official activities. I _can_ do a full logout, but the next time I need my email, it's all back and tracking.

Needless to say, this... is a problem, given that I hang out here and otherwise discuss subjects that my employer does not need to know about. I'm kind of at wits end about it. _Very_ pissed off at Microsoft for the intrusiveness.

/  (I don't have the space at home to set up my work laptop without dismantling my gaming PC setup somewhat, so that's not sufficient as a solution.)
 
2022-08-14 7:35:20 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: tudorgurl: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.

this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.

The last few years, we've effectively been forced by the district's contract with Microsoft to adopt Office 365 and Teams. Well and good(ish, 365 is crap). That said, because I do have to check my school email from home sometimes, Microsoft insists on tying everything my personal computer does (that's visible to Bing in any way) to my _school_ email address. Aggressively so. I've been so-far unable to get it to segregate my home use with my official activities. I _can_ do a full logout, but the next time I need my email, it's all back and tracking.

Needless to say, this... is a problem, given that I hang out here and otherwise discuss subjects that my employer does not need to know about. I'm kind of at wits end about it. _Very_ pissed off at Microsoft for the intrusiveness.

/  (I don't have the space at home to set up my work laptop without dismantling my gaming PC setup somewhat, so that's not sufficient as a solution.)


Have you tried using an incognito browser session, and tell it not to keep you logged in?
 
2022-08-14 7:36:07 AM  

Boo_Guy: Stands With A Tiny Fist: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

That actually happened a long while ago. (Maybe as much as 20 years ago). IIRC, where someone (the principal?) had been keeping photos. I don't remember much in the way of detail, but I do remember there was a fark thread on it.

Yea there was an article on here a few years back where a student claimed the camera turned on while the laptop was in her room, I don't know what ever came of it though.


That's the article I mean, I think. It turned out someone who had access to that software got busted for keeping photos. Fark tracked the FA at least that far. I don't think we ever covered the extent of the FO portion of this.
 
2022-08-14 7:37:37 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: tudorgurl: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.

this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.

The last few years, we've effectively been forced by the district's contract with Microsoft to adopt Office 365 and Teams. Well and good(ish, 365 is crap). That said, because I do have to check my school email from home sometimes, Microsoft insists on tying everything my personal computer does (that's visible to Bing in any way) to my _school_ email address. Aggressively so. I've been so-far unable to get it to segregate my home use with my official activities. I _can_ do a full logout, but the next time I need my email, it's all back and tracking.

Needless to say, this... is a problem, given that I hang out here and otherwise discuss subjects that my employer does not need to know about. I'm kind of at wits end about it. _Very_ pissed off at Microsoft for the intrusiveness.

/  (I don't have the space at home to set up my work laptop without dismantling my gaming PC setup somewhat, so that's not sufficient as a solution.)


Boot a live Linux distro from a flash drive?
 
2022-08-14 7:38:16 AM  

BizarreMan: Stands With A Tiny Fist: tudorgurl: Boo_Guy: Spyware that can turn on the camera at any time those with access want.

Don't keep those computers in your rooms kiddos.

this is why my child will not bring home a district computer and I don't bring mine home. You intrude enough into our lives, school district, with your unrealistic expectations of teachers and students. You don't get to spy on us at home as well.

The last few years, we've effectively been forced by the district's contract with Microsoft to adopt Office 365 and Teams. Well and good(ish, 365 is crap). That said, because I do have to check my school email from home sometimes, Microsoft insists on tying everything my personal computer does (that's visible to Bing in any way) to my _school_ email address. Aggressively so. I've been so-far unable to get it to segregate my home use with my official activities. I _can_ do a full logout, but the next time I need my email, it's all back and tracking.

Needless to say, this... is a problem, given that I hang out here and otherwise discuss subjects that my employer does not need to know about. I'm kind of at wits end about it. _Very_ pissed off at Microsoft for the intrusiveness.

/  (I don't have the space at home to set up my work laptop without dismantling my gaming PC setup somewhat, so that's not sufficient as a solution.)

Have you tried using an incognito browser session, and tell it not to keep you logged in?


I'll try that. Actually, I'm thinking what I might do is set up a VM sandbox just for dealing with school matters.
 
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