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2022-08-13 6:17:47 PM  
Republicans are going to take control in 2014. DeSantis is going to be President and make being gay illegal.

Military people and their spouses are going to be teaching your children (not my children because I'm not stupid enough to have any children).

Abortion will of course be illegal everywhere.

Trump will be guilty of everything and found not guilty of everything.

McConnell won't be Our Lord and Savior but will be Our Lord and Savior.

Other than that, everything will be cool.
 
2022-08-13 8:05:04 PM  

Mugato: Republicans are going to take control in 2014.


Lolwut
 
2022-08-13 8:08:41 PM  

Cafe Threads: Mugato: Republicans are going to take control in 2014.

Lolwut


His time traveling machine worked.
 
2022-08-13 8:09:31 PM  

Cafe Threads: Mugato: Republicans are going to take control in 2014.

Lolwut


They're always living in the past.
 
2022-08-13 8:10:40 PM  
 
2022-08-13 8:11:21 PM  
Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.
 
2022-08-13 8:11:28 PM  

Mugato: Republicans are going to take control in 2014. DeSantis is going to be President and make being gay illegal.

Military people and their spouses are going to be teaching your children (not my children because I'm not stupid enough to have any children).

Abortion will of course be illegal everywhere.

Trump will be guilty of everything and found not guilty of everything.

McConnell won't be Our Lord and Savior but will be Our Lord and Savior.

Other than that, everything will be cool.


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2022-08-13 8:22:15 PM  
Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) gave a speech recently where he described how the GQP will dismantle Medicare and Social Security.

/Vote the Republican asshats out!
 
2022-08-13 8:26:19 PM  

Weatherkiss: Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.


It would just get undone in under a day
 
2022-08-13 8:26:55 PM  
There is an inherent problem in the benefit payouts for pensioners being tied to inflation whilst current workers who fund the scheme are not seeing wage increases.

We need to tie the statutory minimum wage to inflation if we want this whole "pay as you go" model of state pension to stay solvent.
 
2022-08-13 8:27:09 PM  

DORMAMU: Weatherkiss: Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.

It would just get undone in under a day


Better not do anything at all then. Good point.
 
2022-08-13 8:27:46 PM  
It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.
 
2022-08-13 8:28:02 PM  

AirForceVet: Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) gave a speech recently where he described how the GQP will dismantle Medicare


Isn't he the guy who greatly profited from Medicare fraud? Why would he dismantle the goose that lays the golden eggs?
 
2022-08-13 8:29:26 PM  
COLA for SS should be reviewed 3 or 4 times a year.
 
2022-08-13 8:29:46 PM  

mrmopar5287: AirForceVet: Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) gave a speech recently where he described how the GQP will dismantle Medicare

Isn't he the guy who greatly profited from Medicare fraud? Why would he dismantle the goose that lays the golden eggs?


Because Rick Scott is an idiot at heart?
 
2022-08-13 8:32:03 PM  

DORMAMU: Weatherkiss: Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.

It would just get undone in under a day


Aww, it's cute that you think rapepublicans actually know how to actually legislate other than copy/paste every tax cut for the wealthy/corporations in the past and just change the date.
 
2022-08-13 8:33:16 PM  

MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.


Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...
 
2022-08-13 8:33:46 PM  

Shaggy_C: There is an inherent problem in the benefit payouts for pensioners being tied to inflation whilst current workers who fund the scheme are not seeing wage increases.

We need to tie the statutory minimum wage to inflation if we want this whole "pay as you go" model of state pension to stay solvent.


Or just remove the cap on taxable income.
 
2022-08-13 8:34:36 PM  
Republicans plan to sundown social security. Tell an old person.
 
2022-08-13 8:35:56 PM  

MattytheMouse: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...


I mean....that's the point.
 
2022-08-13 8:39:01 PM  

Shaggy_C: There is an inherent problem in the benefit payouts for pensioners being tied to inflation whilst current workers who fund the scheme are not seeing wage increases.

We need to tie the statutory minimum wage to inflation if we want this whole "pay as you go" model of state pension to stay solvent.


The people currently drawing on Social Security do not care if it stops being solvent for the next generation.  The motto of half of this country is "I got mine, fark you."
 
2022-08-13 8:39:03 PM  
Yay. Higher contributions to a program that will disappear the next time republicans take power

I will never receive a single dime out of this ponzi scheme.

So fark old people who bought their houses for $1,000 and didn't bother to put money away against inflation.
 
2022-08-13 8:40:15 PM  

Cafe Threads: Mugato: Republicans are going to take control in 2014.

Lolwut


I know right? But to be fair, verb conjugation is tricky when time travel is involved.

That should have been "Republicans must will have taken control in 2014."
 
2022-08-13 8:42:13 PM  

iheartscotch: MattytheMouse: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...

I mean....that's the point.


It's cruel and backwards. Like, it's straight up ableist. There is no way that somebody like my neighbor would be able to get on, or maintain these benefits, because they don't take into account his abilities beyond whether or not he could fit into a job's program that'd have him sorting recyclables.

The system is so obsessed with denying people benefits that they deem unworthy of them, that it's created this weird catch 22 where the only people it benefits are capable of navigating the paperwork and playing the game.
 
2022-08-13 8:42:25 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Or just remove the cap on taxable income.


I assume you would concurrently add a cap on benefits as well. Or would millionaires also draw millions in their dotage?
 
2022-08-13 8:47:15 PM  

mrmopar5287: AirForceVet: Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) gave a speech recently where he described how the GQP will dismantle Medicare

Isn't he the guy who greatly profited from Medicare fraud? Why would he dismantle the goose that lays the golden eggs?


He already got paid. He's trying to pull the ladder up behind him.
 
2022-08-13 8:50:00 PM  

MattytheMouse: iheartscotch: MattytheMouse: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...

I mean....that's the point.

It's cruel and backwards. Like, it's straight up ableist. There is no way that somebody like my neighbor would be able to get on, or maintain these benefits, because they don't take into account his abilities beyond whether or not he could fit into a job's program that'd have him sorting recyclables.

The system is so obsessed with denying people benefits that they deem unworthy of them, that it's created this weird catch 22 where the only people it benefits are capable of navigating the paperwork and playing the game.


Faux Nooz has convinced a lot of people to vote counter to their interests because someone somewhere somehow might be getting something that THEY didn't get.
 
2022-08-13 8:52:43 PM  

MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.


That's absolutely untrue.

Sorry, no
 
2022-08-13 8:54:18 PM  
Lucky duckies! Grrrrr
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2022-08-13 8:54:26 PM  

NathanAllen: Yay. Higher contributions to a program that will disappear the next time republicans take power

I will never receive a single dime out of this ponzi scheme.

So fark old people who bought their houses for $1,000 and didn't bother to put money away against inflation.


It's not a Ponzi scheme. That's not what that means. It works like any insurance--the people paying into it now are supporting the people who are drawing it now. That's how insurance works. Your car insurance payments aren't going into a  savings account for your future needs, they are paying for someone else who just farked up their car.
The looming problem with Social Security is that eventually the amount going out will exceed the amount coming in. There's a simple fix for that, but it involves taxing rich people, which is politically difficult.
 
2022-08-13 8:57:22 PM  

zeroman987: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

That's absolutely untrue.

Sorry, no


Our system is designed by a bunch of paranoid ableist assholes that have turned it into a labyrinthine processes more interested in denying people benefits than actually helping them vs. no it's not.
 
2022-08-13 8:57:41 PM  

Shaggy_C: There is an inherent problem in the benefit payouts for pensioners being tied to inflation whilst current workers who fund the scheme are not seeing wage increases.

We need to tie the statutory minimum wage to inflation if we want this whole "pay as you go" model of state pension to stay solvent.


that's not how this works. that's not how any of this works

What's going on is that when wages go up, or SS goes up, a handful of people raise the prices of everything. No connetion to the amount increase in money. No relationship whatsoever to how inflation functions.
 
2022-08-13 8:57:47 PM  
If you don't give it to citizens,
You're giving it to republicans.
 
2022-08-13 8:58:00 PM  

revrendjim: It works like any insurance


Social Security is not and has never been "insurance."
 
2022-08-13 9:00:04 PM  

MattytheMouse: iheartscotch: MattytheMouse: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...

I mean....that's the point.

It's cruel and backwards. Like, it's straight up ableist. There is no way that somebody like my neighbor would be able to get on, or maintain these benefits, because they don't take into account his abilities beyond whether or not he could fit into a job's program that'd have him sorting recyclables.

The system is so obsessed with denying people benefits that they deem unworthy of them, that it's created this weird catch 22 where the only people it benefits are capable of navigating the paperwork and playing the game.


I want to expand on my answer a bit - saying that people commit fraud to qualify for SSI is untrue.  It is also offensive to the hard working Americans that make an effort to comply with the rules.

I agree that the rules are at times stacked against the disabled, and yes, that is Republican issue.  However, there is real fraud in the disability program.

People work under their child's social security number, or work for cash, etc.  The vast majority of people do not commit fraud.  Sorry, not the case.

If it were up to me, we would have a UBI.  But we have the current system, and until we get the political will to change it, we are stuck with it.  Please don't insult the most vulnerable among us by saying that they are committing fraud.
 
2022-08-13 9:01:22 PM  

zeroman987: MattytheMouse: iheartscotch: MattytheMouse: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

Speaking of which, one of these days, we need to have an honest to God conversation about how ass-backwards these programs are set up. Like, its farked that I was able to get on benefits through college by stretching the truth about my ADHD, while my low-functioning autistic neighbor was denied benefits because he had a job, once, twenty years ago for two weeks. Like, the mere fact that they measure your disability by your literal, physical ability to work on its own...

I mean....that's the point.

It's cruel and backwards. Like, it's straight up ableist. There is no way that somebody like my neighbor would be able to get on, or maintain these benefits, because they don't take into account his abilities beyond whether or not he could fit into a job's program that'd have him sorting recyclables.

The system is so obsessed with denying people benefits that they deem unworthy of them, that it's created this weird catch 22 where the only people it benefits are capable of navigating the paperwork and playing the game.

I want to expand on my answer a bit - saying that people commit fraud to qualify for SSI is untrue.  It is also offensive to the hard working Americans that make an effort to comply with the rules.

I agree that the rules are at times stacked against the disabled, and yes, that is Republican issue.  However, there is real fraud in the disability program.

People work under their child's social security number, or work for cash, etc.  The vast majority of people do not commit fraud.  Sorry, not the case.

If it were up to me, we would have a UBI.  But we have the current system, and until we get the political will to change it, we are stuck with it.  Please don't insult the most vulnerable among us by saying that they are committing fraud.


Okay, that I can agree with.
 
2022-08-13 9:05:18 PM  
Well I don't give a damn if they take away my Social Security and Medicare, long as it'll teach them libruls a lesson!

/brandishes walking cane

//falls over

//Help!
 
2022-08-13 9:08:00 PM  
My mid-term message...

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/ and that includes dog catcher
 
2022-08-13 9:09:11 PM  
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2022-08-13 9:11:03 PM  

mrmopar5287: revrendjim: It works like any insurance

Social Security is not and has never been "insurance."


It is insurance, in the same sense that health insurance is insurance. They differ from things like auto or homeowners insurance in that everyone who pays in expects to eventually be paid a benefit, but they use the same model that the people paying in right now are supporting the people who are being paid right now.
 
2022-08-13 9:13:40 PM  

DORMAMU: Weatherkiss: Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.

It would just get undone in under a day


Yup. Just like they did to to Obamacare.
 
2022-08-13 9:15:35 PM  

MattytheMouse: zeroman987: MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.

That's absolutely untrue.

Sorry, no

Our system is designed by a bunch of paranoid ableist assholes that have turned it into a labyrinthine processes more interested in denying people benefits than actually helping them vs. no it's not.


I think you are lashing out because you or people you know may have had bad experiences with the system, but it helps a huge number of people. Those people are NOT committing fraud.

Moreover, they make their programs accessible.  They provide significant amounts of assistance to ensure that everyone is afforded due process with regard to their application.  For example, they will obtain all of your records for you, and they won't charge a fee. Even if you have a lawyer.  You also don't need a lawyer - a lot of people without a lawyer win their cases.  They are focused on helping the most vulnerable and need help.

Ultimately, it is a quasi-legal scheme, but they do everything in their power to give everyone a fair chance to make their case.  It is also non-adversarial.  The government does not have a representative - a doctor from the state you live in looks at the application twice, and then if not approved, it goes to a Judge, who is an independent decision maker.  The Agency cannot give Judges quotas or direct them to make a specific finding in any particular case - the Judge looks at the evidence and decides if it meets the statutory definition of disability.

If you are curious, the Washington Post periodically talks about Social Security disability.  It is one of the things they love to report on.  You can also check social security  dot gov for their statistics.
 
2022-08-13 9:23:28 PM  

MattytheMouse: It's wild, listening my Republican relatives on SSI justify voting for Republican, even though they know they're going to dismantle these programs.

Like, they know things will get harder for them... But they think it'll translate to more benefits for them because they're rooting all the fraud out!*

*Not their fraud, of course... And believe it or not, I say that without any judgement this time, because republicans have made getting on these benefits so unwieldy and labyrinthine that you pretty much HAVE to commit fraud in order to be on them.


I tended bar in a small Texas retirement town. 98% of my customers were on SSI.

The biggest problem is they think it's a savings account. They literally cannot process the socialpart of it.

It's the reason behind the "Fark you,got mine!" mentality.
 
2022-08-13 9:23:34 PM  

Shaggy_C: There is an inherent problem in the benefit payouts for pensioners being tied to inflation whilst current workers who fund the scheme are not seeing wage increases.

We need to tie the statutory minimum wage to inflation if we want this whole "pay as you go" model of state pension to stay solvent.


You do realize that our dollar is only solvent on a promise of / to honor ..
 
2022-08-13 9:24:01 PM  
 
2022-08-13 9:26:39 PM  
How does fark feel about MMT?
 
2022-08-13 9:29:56 PM  
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2022-08-13 9:33:24 PM  

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I have looked a person in the eye while serving them overpriced bud lite, as they said that verbatim.
 
2022-08-13 9:46:42 PM  

dailygrinds: DORMAMU: Weatherkiss: Perish the thought that Democrats pass legislation before Republicans get a chance to fark us all over.

It would just get undone in under a day

Yup. Just like they did to to Obamacare.


It wasn't for the lack of trying.
 
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