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(The Verge)   Reviewer notes that like all its previous foldable phones, Samsung's latest foldable phone is expensive, fragile, thick, and has poor battery life. To the right, discussion of whether those are bugs or features   (theverge.com) divider line
    More: Facepalm, IPhone, Mobile phone, App Store, Apple Inc., Last year's Galaxy Z Fold, good foldable phone, own foldables, Multi-touch  
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2022-08-12 8:59:22 PM  
You forgot to mention that the screen is a fragile plastic that will rip in two after five hundred or so opens and closings. I looked at them yesterday.
 
2022-08-12 9:06:31 PM  
Does it burst into flames?
 
2022-08-12 9:21:46 PM  
I really really wanted to like this, mostly because I do miss my old RAZR.  But sheesh - the issues they've managed to come up with.
 
2022-08-13 12:03:51 AM  

ruudbob: You forgot to mention that the screen is a fragile plastic that will rip in two after five hundred or so opens and closings. I looked at them yesterday.


The people who buy these fold phones buy a new phone every five hundred or so opens.
 
2022-08-13 12:41:12 AM  
I thought at the time, with a few tweaks (camera usable when closed, touchscreen functionality, and ability use phone when closed), the Blackberry Style would have been the best smart phone I ever had.
 
2022-08-13 12:54:16 AM  
I'm holding out for the crumpleable smartphone, so I can write a scathing one-star review on it, palm it into a ball, and then throw it away in disgust.
 
2022-08-13 12:55:22 AM  

optikeye: Does it burst into flames?


To their credit, Samsung have improved the quality of their batteries to the point that... other parts now fail catastrophically first.  Winning!
 
2022-08-13 12:55:38 AM  
Tablets in general are kind of a pointless intermediate step where either a phone or an actual computer on the order of a laptop/pc would be better.

There's exactly one use-case where a tablet is best: filling out paperwork that needs to be hand-signed.  Which, like, yes, that's a legitimate thing to have a device for.  I've saved a small forest's worth of paper on things like daily inspection checklists and the form-factor cannot be beaten for this one thing... but it doesn't need to be a fancy tablet that folds or shoots fireworks or gives you a blowjob under the table.  It's a functional work device that is actively improved by the additional features and complex flourishes it lacks, the fewer random bullshiat features outside of displaying text and stylus input are involved the better.

What I'm getting at here is that "foldable phones" have an enormous "who the fark is this even for" problem inherent in their design.  Anyone who wants to see several apps at once is planning to sit the fark down and focus on the device, and will just go back to their cubicle or get off the couch and walk to their PC.  Anyone who is doing normal phone shiat will at best see no improvement in exchange for the massively increased risk of breakage that farking moving parts introduce.
 
2022-08-13 1:49:42 AM  
I know a person who has one, and raved about it and thought it was the best thing since a flip phone.

waiting for the "well my screen got borked, FML"
 
2022-08-13 2:12:46 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Tablets in general are kind of a pointless intermediate step where either a phone or an actual computer on the order of a laptop/pc would be better.


I'm currently laying in bed, posting on a tablet.
It's better than using my phone, since I can use Fark's full site, and not the mobile site.
Same goes for other websites.
I can also watch videos on a larger screen, and actually see what's happening.
That's just a couple of things where a tablet is useful, when a laptop, or a phone just don't really cover that intermediate step.
 
2022-08-13 3:11:32 AM  

Jim_Callahan: What I'm getting at here is that "foldable phones" have an enormous "who the fark is this even for" problem inherent in their design.


People who have deep pockets, just not in their jeans? Nah, I'm just going with my default of "people who have too much money and not enough sense."

/smartphone design peaked with the iPhone 4
 
2022-08-13 3:22:32 AM  
LG did it right. Too bad they dropped out of the market. But their final flagship phone was a doozy.
 
2022-08-13 3:54:51 AM  
I have the flip 3. I love it and have had no problems.

Just my $.02
 
2022-08-13 3:58:26 AM  

Stibium: Jim_Callahan: What I'm getting at here is that "foldable phones" have an enormous "who the fark is this even for" problem inherent in their design.

People who have deep pockets, just not in their jeans? Nah, I'm just going with my default of "people who have too much money and not enough sense."

/smartphone design peaked with the iPhone 4


I like mine because it feels smaller in my pocket and the screen is not exposed at all when it is folded.

I can see it isn't for everyone but there is a lot of "stop liking what I don't like!" going on here.
 
2022-08-13 6:55:54 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Tablets in general are kind of a pointless intermediate step where either a phone or an actual computer on the order of a laptop/pc would be better.

There's exactly one use-case where a tablet is best: filling out paperwork that needs to be hand-signed.  Which, like, yes, that's a legitimate thing to have a device for.  I've saved a small forest's worth of paper on things like daily inspection checklists and the form-factor cannot be beaten for this one thing... but it doesn't need to be a fancy tablet that folds or shoots fireworks or gives you a blowjob under the table.  It's a functional work device that is actively improved by the additional features and complex flourishes it lacks, the fewer random bullshiat features outside of displaying text and stylus input are involved the better.

What I'm getting at here is that "foldable phones" have an enormous "who the fark is this even for" problem inherent in their design.  Anyone who wants to see several apps at once is planning to sit the fark down and focus on the device, and will just go back to their cubicle or get off the couch and walk to their PC.  Anyone who is doing normal phone shiat will at best see no improvement in exchange for the massively increased risk of breakage that farking moving parts introduce.


Consumer tablets, or generic tablets? A small computer that can communicate with our server and has a screen to display data is great for our QA people and forlift drivers when locating stuff that need to be loaded or unloaded. Tablets are great at being really big phone computers. But they suck at being a phone. And they can't play Crysis at 60 fps 4K.
 
2022-08-13 7:12:24 AM  

jst3p: I have the flip 3. I love it and have had no problems.

Just my $.02


Our Nokia phones lasted for years. From around 1997 to 2012 we used Nokia flip phones. The screens didn't break. They lasted a couple of days between charges. You could sends texts. Take crap pics. Call people. I think they cost around $75 and  they lasted around 5 years.
 
2022-08-13 8:13:17 AM  
No interest in the Fold.  May get the Flip.  However, I read that the Flip 5 will be coming out next year and will be better than the Flip 4 that just came out so I will wait.
 
2022-08-13 8:19:34 AM  

runwiz: No interest in the Fold.  May get the Flip.  However, I read that the Flip 5 will be coming out next year and will be better than the Flip 4 that just came out so I will wait.


If you wait until the year after that, the Flip 6 will be coming out, and it will be one better than the Flip 5. And two better than the Flip 4
 
2022-08-13 8:36:47 AM  

yakmans_dad: jst3p: I have the flip 3. I love it and have had no problems.

Just my $.02

Our Nokia phones lasted for years. From around 1997 to 2012 we used Nokia flip phones. The screens didn't break. They lasted a couple of days between charges. You could sends texts. Take crap pics. Call people. I think they cost around $75 and  they lasted around 5 years.


You're memory is a bit fuzzy.
The Nokia phones were indeed just about bullet proof, but if you did not plug them into the charger every night, you would run out of battery about halfway into the next day. Good news was, having a back up battery that you could pop into the phone.
And $75 might be what you would have initially paid your carrier for the phone; the phone was heavily subsidized by the carriers, and they would make that subsidy back in the monthly cell service charges. Thus the 2 year contracts.
 
2022-08-13 8:39:12 AM  
Folding phones are useless, ridiculous!

<Apple comes out with folding iPhone>

OMG, this is the best thing ever!  So innovative!

/actually wouldn't mind an iphone folder to replace my SE
//smol is good
///ordered a flip4

=
_\
_/
__
 
2022-08-13 8:53:56 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Jim_Callahan: Tablets in general are kind of a pointless intermediate step where either a phone or an actual computer on the order of a laptop/pc would be better.

I'm currently laying in bed, posting on a tablet.
It's better than using my phone, since I can use Fark's full site, and not the mobile site.
Same goes for other websites.
I can also watch videos on a larger screen, and actually see what's happening.
That's just a couple of things where a tablet is useful, when a laptop, or a phone just don't really cover that intermediate step.


What I don't understand is why you can't buy a phablet in the USA. I don't want a phone barely small enough to fit in a pants pocket, yet too small for my big paws to handle easily. I just want a tablet I can make phone calls with. Is that so much to ask for in this day and age?
 
2022-08-13 9:28:19 AM  
Supposedly the modern RAZR is good and less prone to the broken screen, but I'd never pay that much for a phone.
 
2022-08-13 9:46:19 AM  
I'm actively exercising my hatred of Samsung as we shop for a new stove and TV.  I used the term "shitpost" with the appliance guy.

Truth: Samsung will try hard to wiggle out of their warranties.  That is specifically the reason for my lifelong vendetta.  And Consumer Reports could do a better job of warning people about Samsung service issues.
 
2022-08-13 10:10:40 AM  
Mrs. Hakubi has a fold 3 that she just HAD to have. She got it back in November and it has held up pretty well. It has completely replaced the Fire tablet she used beforehand.
 
2022-08-13 11:27:45 AM  

jst3p: I have the flip 3. I love it and have had no problems.

Just my $.02


My cousin has the Z Fold. She loves it. It looks really cool. I'm considering buying one.

Thanks for your $0.02.
 
2022-08-13 11:31:51 AM  

COMALite J: LG did it right. Too bad they dropped out of the market. But their final flagship phone was a doozy.


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2022-08-13 11:34:12 AM  
As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.
 
2022-08-13 11:49:23 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I really really wanted to like this, mostly because I do miss my old RAZR.  But sheesh - the issues they've managed to come up with.


my most favorite phone ever was a foldable (longways) model, the Switchback. I loved having an actual keyboard to finger. miss the shiat out of that phone. would swap my i6S in a second for a current similar model.

natazha: As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.


your battery is good for 2 weeks? are you kidding/trolling? the battery in my i6S does not last 3 hours, the best I can do when speaking with 1 of the 2 people I phone is have a conversation for perhaps 2 hrs 45 mins. to make matters worse Mrs. Swimo has our 2 phones set up on a plan that costs me $170/month. which infuriates me but means nothing to her. yes, i do live with an urge to kill.
 
2022-08-13 12:15:48 PM  

natazha: As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.


You have a onion on your belt?
 
2022-08-13 12:36:17 PM  
Every phone is foldable.
Except this one
upload.wikimedia.orgView Full Size

Nothing will bend that.
 
2022-08-13 12:57:14 PM  

jst3p: Stibium: Jim_Callahan: What I'm getting at here is that "foldable phones" have an enormous "who the fark is this even for" problem inherent in their design.

People who have deep pockets, just not in their jeans? Nah, I'm just going with my default of "people who have too much money and not enough sense."

/smartphone design peaked with the iPhone 4

I like mine because it feels smaller in my pocket and the screen is not exposed at all when it is folded.

I can see it isn't for everyone but there is a lot of "stop liking what I don't like!" going on here.


Fair enough for screen exposure, but you can just flip the phone over or put it in your pocket.

My biggest peeve really comes down to the overall design. I dunno which model it is on the TV commercials, but it's square when it's folded and that's absolutely unnatural and disgusting. The ZFold3 model ratios otoh are well thought out, and it's thin enough to pass for a typical smartphone anyway.

/principle of least surprise can be applied to nearly everything, even ergonomics
 
2022-08-13 2:03:33 PM  

jst3p: I can see it isn't for everyone but there is a lot of "stop liking what I don't like!" going on here.


Mileage varies so much.  Personally, I haven't yet seen a phone that does anything that would, for me, justify a price tag over $100 at most.  I miss my cheap-as-hell LG phones.  Right now I have a Moto G Power that cost me $70.  Battery's good for three days even if I haunt YouTube.

If I played games on my phone or watched feature films on it, or something, then maybe.  But I don't even want to use my phone for that kind of thing.  And I don't want a new phone more often than maybe every two years, at most.

I know a lot of people with far more expensive phones, and they seem happy with them (except so many broken screens -- so many!), but I don't know what justifies the price for them.  I work with a lot of college students, and they don't seem sure what makes their phones better, either.  Bigger screens, sometimes, but I wouldn't want a phone bigger than my Moto G, absolutely.  Thing's a clunker as it is.  I have actual laptop computers and a couple of desktops, if I want to watch TV or something, and I'm not writing anything longer than a couple hundred characters on my phone, so . . . I dunno.

But mileage varies.  Whatever.
 
2022-08-13 2:33:21 PM  
What? A problems with SamSmug phones?  But I've been hearing for years how superior they are.
 
2022-08-13 2:49:36 PM  

natazha: As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.


Anything sub-iPad fits in my pockets.

/cargo shorts FTW
 
2022-08-13 2:51:21 PM  

ruudbob: You forgot to mention that the screen is a fragile plastic that will rip in two after five hundred or so opens and closings. I looked at them yesterday.


When that happen the next new model will be out of your payments are over
 
2022-08-13 3:04:03 PM  

natazha: As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.


Oh yeah? Which phone? Cause LTE/5G flip phones all seem to be mostly junk, and they're either running android or some other semi-smart OS on commodity SoCs.  I thought the days of battery-sipping custom silicon died with 3G.
 
2022-08-13 3:48:53 PM  

dbirchall: natazha: As I sit at my Linux PC with its two 29" monitors, my folding phone is in my back pocket. The battery is good for two weeks plus, the screen has no crease and the mechanical buttons have a nice click when I use them.  Why yes, it's a flip phone!

And my camera is on the shelf behind me. It also fits in a pocket.

Anything sub-iPad fits in my pockets.

/cargo shorts FTW


Ghetto blaster phones are in this year. Cue the sale of protective cases with shoulder pads.
 
2022-08-13 3:54:32 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: ruudbob: You forgot to mention that the screen is a fragile plastic that will rip in two after five hundred or so opens and closings. I looked at them yesterday.

When that happen the next new model will be out of your payments are over


I would like to add that I have had mine for almost a year and the screen shows no signs of tearing, and I am sure I open and close it at least a dozen times a day. Probably more.
 
2022-08-14 12:09:13 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Jim_Callahan: Tablets in general are kind of a pointless intermediate step where either a phone or an actual computer on the order of a laptop/pc would be better.

I'm currently laying in bed, posting on a tablet.
It's better than using my phone, since I can use Fark's full site, and not the mobile site.
Same goes for other websites.
I can also watch videos on a larger screen, and actually see what's happening.
That's just a couple of things where a tablet is useful, when a laptop, or a phone just don't really cover that intermediate step.


I used to use a tablet for farking and reading the web in bed...until I got a chromebook.  Way, way better.
 
2022-08-14 4:24:33 AM  

Sasquach: COMALite J: LG did it right. Too bad they dropped out of the market. But their final flagship phone was a doozy.

[Fark user image 425×283]

Seriously, though. It was the LG Wing. Check it out:
LG Wing: The Swiveling Smartphone!
Youtube t0XN-dJftSU
 
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