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2022-08-12 4:38:23 PM  
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2022-08-12 4:45:05 PM  
Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.
 
2022-08-12 4:46:01 PM  
If only there were some Friday News that could distract from the Thursday News that TFG** pleaded the 5th amendment in the court case in NY asset probe.
 
2022-08-12 4:47:19 PM  

snocone: If only there were some Friday News that could distract from the Thursday News that TFG** pleaded the 5th amendment in the court case in NY asset probe.


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2022-08-12 4:49:02 PM  
It doesn't work that way.  There's a process.   There's materials that even a president can't declassify.
 
2022-08-12 4:49:25 PM  
Maybe I am the only one that noticed the media had the Mar-a-Lago distraction waiting at the door as TFG** left the courtroom.
 
2022-08-12 4:50:39 PM  
Did he hereby declare it? It doesn't count if he didn't hereby declare it.
 
2022-08-12 4:51:56 PM  
Flail harder, Donnie. Get that blood pressure up.
 
2022-08-12 4:51:57 PM  

eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.


Ain't no competent attorney is gonna take him as a client.
 
2022-08-12 4:53:59 PM  
He's got the worst lawyers.
 
2022-08-12 4:54:25 PM  
Yeah, I'm tired of reading this asshole's bullsh*it.

Enough.
 
2022-08-12 4:54:30 PM  
Was reading somewhere on Twitter today that some things pertaining to the nuclear and the atomic *cannot* be declassified.

/ at least by TFG just saying it
 
2022-08-12 4:56:11 PM  

eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.


The Espionage Act doesn't really even require classification.  Classification is a pretty good indicator that a document could damage US security but it is not required to violate the Espionage Act.
 
2022-08-12 4:56:44 PM  
Too late fatboy...too late.
 
2022-08-12 4:58:20 PM  
We're really speedrunning from "I didn't do it" through "The FBI planted it there" to "OK, I had it, but it wasn't illegal."

I expect "OK, so I did do it." within the next 3 hours.
 
2022-08-12 4:58:36 PM  
So when can we expect his lawyers to claim that he is mentally incompetent to stand trial? Because that would be hard to argue.
 
2022-08-12 4:59:30 PM  
Trump and his dumbass followers think he's a king that can do things by decree.  It doesn't work that way.
 
2022-08-12 4:59:55 PM  
From the earlier thread:

fifthofzen: The search warrant for Trump's residence cited three criminal laws, all from Title 18 of the United States Code. Section 793, better known as the Espionage Act, which covers the unlawful retention of defense-related information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary; Section 1519, which covers destroying or concealing documents to obstruct government investigations or administrative proceedings; and Section 2071, which covers the unlawful removal of government records. Notably, none of those laws turn on whether information was deemed to be unclassified.


Oops.
 
2022-08-12 5:00:40 PM  

Jake Havechek: It doesn't work that way.  There's a process.   There's materials that even a president can't declassify.


For instance: every agency with a finger in the pie has a say and if the CIA objects, for instance, it ain't getting declassified.
 
2022-08-12 5:00:51 PM  
I know that his supporters aren't any good at reasoning (you can see that with the various farkers whom I have farkled orange), but I think even this might be a bridge too far for at least a few. As far as I can tell, here's where we are:
1) there weren't any classified documents;
2) he handed everything over everything he was asked to hand over;
3) the FBI planted documents;
4) there were classified documents but he personally declared them declassified;
5) Obama took classified documents.

So, 1, 2, and 3 are contradicted by 4 and 5. 4 is contradicted by 5.
 
2022-08-12 5:01:07 PM  

eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys?


Competent attorneys fled this asshole long ago
 
2022-08-12 5:01:45 PM  

GardenWeasel: From the earlier thread:

fifthofzen: The search warrant for Trump's residence cited three criminal laws, all from Title 18 of the United States Code. Section 793, better known as the Espionage Act, which covers the unlawful retention of defense-related information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary; Section 1519, which covers destroying or concealing documents to obstruct government investigations or administrative proceedings; and Section 2071, which covers the unlawful removal of government records. Notably, none of those laws turn on whether information was deemed to be unclassified.

Oops.


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2022-08-12 5:01:47 PM  

BenSaw2: Was reading somewhere on Twitter today that some things pertaining to the nuclear and the atomic *cannot* be declassified.

/ at least by TFG just saying it


With Nuclear issues the original classifying authority first has to review and then issue a finding saying no then the president can review their findings and sign an order overruling their not agreeing to declassify. There would be a lengthy paper trail. Just taking anything out of a SCIF is a criminal act and anyone that didn't take actions to prevent and return the items back to a secure storage is a co conspirator and needs to be charged and convicted and serve  prison time.
 
2022-08-12 5:03:14 PM  
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2022-08-12 5:05:14 PM  
I thought he said the documents were planted. Oh the difference a day makes.

Without any documentation indicating these materials were declassified, it's just his word and only a sucker would take Trump at his word.
 
2022-08-12 5:05:30 PM  

OldRod: eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys?

Competent attorneys fled this asshole long ago


For a while he had some evangelical lawyers who believed he'd bring about Armaggeddon, and they were pretty clever, actually. He also has someone pretty skilled write his latest speech.

I was shocked that he followed his attorney's advice re the Fifth. But now he won't shut up and needs to.
 
2022-08-12 5:08:54 PM  
Has anybody read the book about a White House thingie with Q level clearance? Q level applies only to nuclear weapons and enerrgy secrets in the Department of Energy. But this fictional character was nominally employed by the Department while on secondment to the White House.

What Trump is claiming is that he can declasify Q level national military and nuclear power secrets and hand them over to the general public, which includes, of course, Vlad the Impaler Putin and XI Said He said.

This makes a mockery of the classifications which are only determined with the assistance of the National Archives. Since Trump is no longe Pesident, he does not even have the descretionary rright to declassify government documents in the public interrest.

WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION of wether it is in the national interest fo Trump to take a retirment fund of national secrets with him when ree retreats to his tax shelter in Florida, and wehther is is in the national interest for all the secrets from Top to Confidential to be declassified at Royal Whim.
 
2022-08-12 5:10:44 PM  

Clarence Brown: I know that his supporters aren't any good at reasoning (you can see that with the various farkers whom I have farkled orange), but I think even this might be a bridge too far for at least a few. As far as I can tell, here's where we are:
1) there weren't any classified documents;
2) he handed everything over everything he was asked to hand over;
3) the FBI planted documents;
4) there were classified documents but he personally declared them declassified;
5) Obama took classified documents.

So, 1, 2, and 3 are contradicted by 4 and 5. 4 is contradicted by 5.


Those are the rantings of a cornered rat, panicking at every turn, and just blurting out the first thing that pops into his defective brain.

He's incapable of planning anything other than "How can this make me look better or make me money?" even if the thing he plans (and I don't mean complex long term plans, but more like how a junkie plans to get their next fix) will lead to an even more negative outcome.
 
2022-08-12 5:11:12 PM  

Ambivalence: only a sucker would take Trump at his word.


So about 98% of the right wing.

/also most Russians.
 
2022-08-12 5:12:23 PM  
I have no idea if this is true, but if it is....


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2022-08-12 5:13:26 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I have no idea if this is true, but if it is....


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2022-08-12 5:16:16 PM  
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2022-08-12 5:16:18 PM  

GardenWeasel: AnotherBluesStringer: I have no idea if this is true, but if it is....


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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Next up - his OAN lawyer's "I'm too pretty for prison" breakdown on camera.
 
2022-08-12 5:16:55 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: We're really speedrunning from "I didn't do it" through "The FBI planted it there" to "OK, I had it, but it wasn't illegal."

I expect "OK, so I did do it." within the next 3 hours.


I believe the next step is, "I did it, but you can't prosecute me."
 
2022-08-12 5:17:02 PM  
Dementia is crazy y'all
 
2022-08-12 5:18:28 PM  

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2022-08-12 5:19:34 PM  
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2022-08-12 5:20:24 PM  
I hereby declare Exexecutive privilege.
 
2022-08-12 5:20:28 PM  

cooldaddygroove: Dementia is crazy y'all


Don't make excuses for fatboy.
 
2022-08-12 5:21:38 PM  
Nixon had some famous quotes that didn't end well.  But, one of the most famous is "It's not illegal when a president does it."

The difficult part with tRump is that he has SO MANY quotes that will be remembered for a LONG time.
 
2022-08-12 5:21:39 PM  
Haven't they stated that some of the documents (like the TS/SCI stuff) are so top secret that you're not even supposed to remove them from where they are? You can't declassify that shiat, you orange buffoon!
 
2022-08-12 5:21:45 PM  

eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.


Remember when the president was a constitutional law scholar? I remember those days.
 
2022-08-12 5:22:48 PM  
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2022-08-12 5:25:15 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.

Remember when the president was a constitutional law scholar? I remember those days.


Remember when we had a smart president who knew the laws, read books, and was well spoken?  Sure he made a few mistakes, everybody does, but his biggest mistake was being a black man.  Who got Dijon mustard on a burger or wore a tan suit.
 
2022-08-12 5:47:40 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: eurotrader: Does TFG have any competent attorneys? Publicly admitting to possession of classified materials that could damage US national security but then claiming it doesn't matter because "reasons" without presenting any contemporaneous evidence that would be in the national archives is pretty much the same as admitting guilt to violating the espionage act.

The only thing left for Garland is to announce is the review for bringing charges is complete and when arraignment is.

Ain't no competent attorney is gonna take him as a client.


So he gets someone from the DC public defenders office. I'm sure they just love him over there.
 
2022-08-12 5:49:17 PM  

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You are welcome
 
2022-08-12 5:49:53 PM  
Yeah, and I declare that I'm POTUS.  It doesn't make it so, moron.  And, in this case, it doesn't even seem to matter.  So, FOAD!
 
2022-08-12 5:50:02 PM  
1... 2... 3... 4... I declare an orange thumb war!
 
2022-08-12 5:50:11 PM  
Trump will argue that by taking the documents he effectively declassified them.
 
2022-08-12 5:51:29 PM  
  Anyone want to place a bet that when the interview about the subpoena occurred the DOJ/FBI asked what documents had been taken and if any might still be considered classified in any way and they were lied to? If that happened it was after TFG had no power (if he ever had the power) to grant a pardon to himself and a lie in a federal investigation is a completely seperate felony.
 
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