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(Yahoo)   Translation: The Kansas GOP is EXTREMELY lucky they put that abortion ban on the ballot for the primary rather than the general election   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-08-12 6:34:09 PM  
105 f*cking counties.
 
2022-08-12 6:44:51 PM  
Go figure, when you have a true democracy where the people vote directly on an issue instead of their paid off by lobbyists representatives voting for them saying they know best, stuff actually gets done that the people want. Of course like the marijuana vote in SD the GQP just overrules the people anyway.
 
2022-08-12 7:02:25 PM  
here in PA - our state legislature has been trying to "back door" a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. the law here is the state house and senate can do an end run around the governor - if both pass an amendment two years in a row, the measure goes to the voters to decide the next election day (and doesn't need the governor to sign off on it). the GOP did this to limit the governor's powers to declare a public health emergency and voters for some dumb reason passed it.

they already held one vote on it, and were planning for a second one in time to get the measure on the 2023 primary ballot. Governor Wolf filed suit against them to block it. but after what we saw in Kansas - I say just let us vote. it will get a hell of a lot more Democrats to the polls

/of course if Mastriano wins in November - there will already be a string of bills ready to be signed the day he takes office
 
2022-08-12 7:16:16 PM  

poconojoe: here in PA - our state legislature has been trying to "back door" a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. the law here is the state house and senate can do an end run around the governor - if both pass an amendment two years in a row, the measure goes to the voters to decide the next election day (and doesn't need the governor to sign off on it). the GOP did this to limit the governor's powers to declare a public health emergency and voters for some dumb reason passed it.

they already held one vote on it, and were planning for a second one in time to get the measure on the 2023 primary ballot. Governor Wolf filed suit against them to block it. but after what we saw in Kansas - I say just let us vote. it will get a hell of a lot more Democrats to the polls

/of course if Mastriano wins in November - there will already be a string of bills ready to be signed the day he takes office


I got something for Nastyammo's back door
 
2022-08-12 9:25:16 PM  
Now that we know how hard-core conservatives feel about abortion, what's their take on treason?
 
2022-08-12 9:27:03 PM  
Of course, it is important to remember that there are Republicans who think that abortion should be legal, probably quite a hefty percentage.  My aunt, for instance, thinks that abortion should be legal, and also that Trump is the best president in the history of presidenting and that he can do no wrong.
 
2022-08-12 9:28:34 PM  
There's a an old saw that Democratic Party policies are popular, while their politicians are not.

Ok. Do more legislating like this, Democrats.
 
2022-08-12 9:29:58 PM  
Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.
 
2022-08-12 9:34:05 PM  

fruit flies like a banana: Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.


Hopefully with Derek Schmidt (R) on the ballot for Governor and Kris Kobach (R) on the ballot for AG there will be enough of us Kansans remembering the "Brown times" to show up at the polls come November.

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2022-08-12 9:34:51 PM  

JAYoung: Now that we know how hard-core conservatives feel about abortion, what's their take on treason?


Depends *entirely* on whether it's committed by a Democrat or a Republican.
 
2022-08-12 9:38:17 PM  

fruit flies like a banana: Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.


Yeah, the plan would've worked if the Supreme Court didn't fark it up for them.
 
2022-08-12 9:39:03 PM  

puffy999: 105 f*cking counties.


And absolutely NOTHING in any one of them!
 
2022-08-12 9:40:06 PM  

nicholas m schumacher: fruit flies like a banana: Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.

Hopefully with Derek Schmidt (R) on the ballot for Governor and Kris Kobach (R) on the ballot for AG there will be enough of us Kansans remembering the "Brown times" to show up at the polls come November.

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Between that and the Kansas GOP trying to shove Amanda Adkins down the KC suburb's throat for the second straight time, I have a feeling the KC suburbs are fired up and not for the GOP.
 
2022-08-12 9:42:54 PM  
The Republicans spent years trying to avoid Dems installing SCOTUS justices so they could control SCOTUS, now they do and it's winning massive votes for Dems in the congressional elections.

The Republicans have REALLY farked this up. What they needed to do (and I sorta apologise for giving them tips here) was tell their SCOTUS picks to leave the culture wars and civil rights stuff alone and focus on corporate rights. That's what the Republicans REALLY wanted. Instead their Catholic-dominated SCOTUS has gone rogue, are bashing abortion and bringing out the vote of the populus who objects to this.

It's farking hilarious. Republicans spent so long focussing on SCOTUS they've lost sight of what they were aiming for in the first place, and the public are hating them for what SCOTUS is doing in the name of the Republican cause.
 
2022-08-12 9:42:58 PM  
Be a shame if Dems astroturfed an abortion ban ballot initiative onto the midterm ballot.
 
2022-08-12 9:46:30 PM  

Phil McKraken: There's a an old saw that Democratic Party policies are popular, while their politicians are not.

Ok. Do more legislating like this, Democrats.


Republican leaders fight for their ambitions. Stupid, toxic ambitions, but ambitions nonetheless.

On numerous occasions, Democratic leaders are so scared of *appearing* unpopular that they won't stand up for things that actually are popular.
 
2022-08-12 9:48:17 PM  

nicholas m schumacher: fruit flies like a banana: Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.

Hopefully with Derek Schmidt (R) on the ballot for Governor and Kris Kobach (R) on the ballot for AG there will be enough of us Kansans remembering the "Brown times" to show up at the polls come November.

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I had forgotten about Brownbackistan.
 
2022-08-12 9:49:11 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Amanda Adkin


Had no idea who this person is cause I'm not from KCK's suburbs and went to her policy page and.....

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Every dog on my block is barking right now.
 
2022-08-12 9:58:42 PM  
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Aww... you don't get to impose your archaic beliefs upon other women.
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2022-08-12 10:03:33 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Phil McKraken: There's a an old saw that Democratic Party policies are popular, while their politicians are not.

Ok. Do more legislating like this, Democrats.

Republican leaders fight for their ambitions. Stupid, toxic ambitions, but ambitions nonetheless.

On numerous occasions, Democratic leaders are so scared of *appearing* unpopular that they won't stand up for things that actually are popular.


I think it's about the fact Democrats are a much more diverse coalition. Democrats are less likely to feel passionate about all the issues and individuals often have a specific issue to motivate them. My friend votes for Democrats because she's a Feminist, but cares less about Climate Change or the Death Penalty. This makes it harder to find leaders like Barack Obama, with a wide and passionate appeal.
 
2022-08-12 10:26:39 PM  

nicholas m schumacher: Mrtraveler01: Amanda Adkin

Had no idea who this person is cause I'm not from KCK's suburbs and went to her policy page and.....

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Every dog on my block is barking right now.


Yep. She got beat so handedly by Sharice David's in 2020 that instead of getting a better candidate, they decided to gerrymander the district instead so they can try to shove her down Johnson County's throat again.
 
2022-08-12 10:33:57 PM  
That wasn't luck. It was entirely deliberate.
 
2022-08-12 10:58:39 PM  

poconojoe: here in PA - our state legislature has been trying to "back door" a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. the law here is the state house and senate can do an end run around the governor - if both pass an amendment two years in a row, the measure goes to the voters to decide the next election day (and doesn't need the governor to sign off on it). the GOP did this to limit the governor's powers to declare a public health emergency and voters for some dumb reason passed it.

they already held one vote on it, and were planning for a second one in time to get the measure on the 2023 primary ballot. Governor Wolf filed suit against them to block it. but after what we saw in Kansas - I say just let us vote. it will get a hell of a lot more Democrats to the polls

/of course if Mastriano wins in November - there will already be a string of bills ready to be signed the day he takes office


No, they haven't.  They're trying to do what Kansas tried to do, remove the constitutional amendment.  That doesn't ban shiat.  It would just ALLOW them to pass laws.

While PA is not very blue, it's a LOT bluer than Kansas... it would never pass a ballot.
 
2022-08-12 10:59:40 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Of course, it is important to remember that there are Republicans who think that abortion should be legal, probably quite a hefty percentage.  My aunt, for instance, thinks that abortion should be legal, and also that Trump is the best president in the history of presidenting and that he can do no wrong.


the shirley exception?
 
2022-08-12 11:01:57 PM  

Mrtraveler01: fruit flies like a banana: Yeah, turnout in the primaries is low compared to the general. So they thought they were being clever by putting it on the primary ballot.

But guess what. Turnout is also low in midterm elections. But it's going to be unusually high this year for lots of reasons. Make them pay Kansas.

Yeah, the plan would've worked if the Supreme Court didn't fark it up for them.


Tomorrows OANNNN: "Unusual High Turnout is Proof of Voter Fraud"
 
2022-08-12 11:23:15 PM  
I think subby means they put it on the ballot on a primary election in order to benefit from tradtionally lower turnout in primary election and it backfired one them bigtime. I can only hope they have some other stupid stratagem that will backfire on them again for the November election. Maybe they should put a ballot initiative to amend the constitution to outlaw gay marriage for November.
 
2022-08-12 11:27:04 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: JAYoung: Now that we know how hard-core conservatives feel about abortion, what's their take on treason?

Depends *entirely* on whether it's committed by a Democrat or a Republican.


It's almost like the modern GOP completely disregarded every single national security value and talking point they held from 2002-2008.

Or, one could argue, 1950-2008.

Did anything notable happen in 2008 that caused them to abandon even the pretense of logically consistent principles?
 
2022-08-13 12:07:47 AM  
It wasn't luck, it was deliberate.  They knew it was guaranteed to fail if it was on the general ballot, so they were banking on the low turn out to push the amendment results their way.

Luckily it failed to work this time.
 
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