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(The Gamer)   There will never be another memorable game like Skyrim staying around for a decade. Oregon Trail, Doom, Tetris, EA Sports titles (Madden most years is just modded roster and graphics tweaks) and a few others give writer side-eye   (thegamer.com) divider line
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2022-08-12 5:20:38 PM  
Ohh bullshiat.
 
2022-08-12 5:22:48 PM  
And Bethesda still hasn't bothered to fix any of the bugs.
 
2022-08-12 5:30:17 PM  
I liked Skyrim a lot, but never bothered to finish it.  I stopped playing after two years.  I still have it installed on my gaming rig, even have the Anniversary Edition, but just can't work up enough ambition to play.
 
2022-08-12 5:31:27 PM  
shrugs and keeps playing Mario Kart
 
2022-08-12 5:35:49 PM  

SomeTexan: I liked Skyrim a lot, but never bothered to finish it.


Elder Scrolls games are built in such a way that you never need to touch the main quest beyond the first or 2nd step.  You can just keep playing in the world until you get bored with it and still have a satisfying experience.
 
2022-08-12 5:40:47 PM  
 
2022-08-12 5:41:01 PM  
I still play Rogue.  

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2022-08-12 5:45:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Ohh bullshiat.


I love Skyrim, but i have to agree with you on that one.
 
2022-08-12 5:47:06 PM  

Snapper Carr: SomeTexan: I liked Skyrim a lot, but never bothered to finish it.

Elder Scrolls games are built in such a way that you never need to touch the main quest beyond the first or 2nd step.  You can just keep playing in the world until you get bored with it and still have a satisfying experience.


I finished it once, i believe. Pushed myself to do it past the Embassy mission, which was a farking pain. And i played it for many years, mainly by livening it up with more and more mods. Stopped playing eventually because the mds made it entirely unstable.
 
2022-08-12 5:50:44 PM  

Glitchwerks: And Bethesda still hasn't bothered to fix any of the bugs.


The Spiffing Brit will never run out of material.
 
2022-08-12 5:57:54 PM  
Skyrim is from another era of gaming, and no game will ever quite replicate its success

Well that's dumb. Wasn't there literally article floating around how the most played games of last year were nearly all games a decade old? Minecraft certainly remains more updated and still massively popular. GTA V is 11 years old and people still play that online and it's continued to get modern ports like Skyrim, etc.

Other games have replicated it's success, some to even greater effect based on what they considered about Skyrim from the article.
 
2022-08-12 6:04:24 PM  
This guy knows WoW and FF Online exist, right?
 
2022-08-12 6:07:38 PM  

Glitchwerks: And Bethesda still hasn't bothered to fix any of the bugs.


Those are features. The infinite crafting loops are an integral part of the game. As well as riding your horse through the terrain somehow. And, um, yeah, too many other exploits to list. All part of the game. That's how it's supposed to be played.
 
2022-08-12 6:09:15 PM  
I think "Playing" and "Playing with" are two different things. I've played with games like Quake 3(making maps) and Half Life 2(maps, modding, Gmod, etc) for long periods of time but I played those games for short periods of time. I never got into Skyrim, but I did play with Fallout New Vegas a lot. From what I've seen, Bethesda games players 'play with' their games a lot, don't play their games that much.

So all a game really needs to allow for to be a Skyrim type of game is allow players to play around with the game's system and resources. It's true that lots of game developers don't design the games with this in mind.
 
2022-08-12 6:14:30 PM  

Birnone: I think "Playing" and "Playing with" are two different things. I've played with games like Quake 3(making maps) and Half Life 2(maps, modding, Gmod, etc) for long periods of time but I played those games for short periods of time. I never got into Skyrim, but I did play with Fallout New Vegas a lot. From what I've seen, Bethesda games players 'play with' their games a lot, don't play their games that much.

So all a game really needs to allow for to be a Skyrim type of game is allow players to play around with the game's system and resources. It's true that lots of game developers don't design the games with this in mind.


Will Wright described the Sims as a "toy" rather than a game. Skyrim was an okay game, but to the modding community, it is an exceptional toy.
 
2022-08-12 6:18:08 PM  

brigid_fitch: I still play Rogue.  

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I used to be a smile character like you, then I took an ANSI arrow character to the knee buffer.
 
2022-08-12 6:18:42 PM  
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2022-08-12 6:26:22 PM  
Skill kicking ....

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2022-08-12 6:26:47 PM  
Still kicking, get it off the cart!

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2022-08-12 6:42:25 PM  
To a lesser but valid extent popularity-wise, Dungeons and Dragons Online and Lord of the Rings Online have been up and running since 2006 and 2007 respectively
 
2022-08-12 6:46:28 PM  
I've bought multiple versions of Skyrim over the years - haven't finished any of them. The last one is the VR version, which is incredible...with the right mods in place first.

A lot of games are still around and hold up. Portal and Portal 2 will never not be amazing. I recommend Portal 2 multiplayer to anyone. If you've never played it, you're missing out. Dark Souls is still fantastic. A lot of classic Nintendo games are still getting re-released. I recently bought yet another copy of Legend of Zelda, this time in Game and Watch form.

So this idea that Skyrim is the only game that has stuck around for a decade is laughable. Come back to me when it's been around for three decades. And by then I'll have bought several more versions of the game that I still will never complete.
 
2022-08-12 8:02:02 PM  
Torchlight 2 is now 10 years old... farking Diablo 2... world of Warcraft had a hell of a run.

Hell stsrcraft and broodwar...
 
2022-08-12 8:08:58 PM  
World of Warcraft released in 2004.
9 billion plus in revenue.
 
kab
2022-08-12 8:12:58 PM  
He has a point.  Skyrim has it's longevity solely and completely due to its mod community.   It is loved in spite of its many bugs, and in some ways, because of them.

Yes, there are other games that have equally long life spans, but they're almost all multiplayer, and more importantly, have a cash shop unfortunately strapped to them.   This is what makes Skyrim the last of its kind.

The industry doesn't want you buying a title and enjoying it for years without dropping cash periodically into their coffers.   Bethesda is no different, and you can guaran-farking-tee that Elder Scrolls VI, whenever it comes out, will not be a repeat performance of Skyrim in this regard.
 
2022-08-12 8:33:39 PM  
Everquest is 23 years old and still going. I quit playing regularly years ago but still jump on a progression/special ruleset server every few years for a while.

The Quarm server back in 2016 was a blast.
 
2022-08-12 8:41:57 PM  
It's TheGamer, the only bigger joke is anyone taking them seriously.
 
2022-08-12 8:43:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Ohh bullshiat.


This.  Euro Truck Simulator 2 recently had its tenth anniversary, American Truck Simulator is close to it and both are still actively developed.  Elite has been going on longer than I've been alive.
 
2022-08-12 9:01:02 PM  

Snapper Carr: SomeTexan: I liked Skyrim a lot, but never bothered to finish it.

Elder Scrolls games are built in such a way that you never need to touch the main quest beyond the first or 2nd step.  You can just keep playing in the world until you get bored with it and still have a satisfying experience.


For me unfortunately the game became boring too quickly as I was overpowered within maybe a day or 2 of playing it to the point where almost all content was trivialize. This makes any sort of progression element or loot upgrade pretty worthless. I know after years and years they added a lot of mods to fix the game, but by that time I lost all interest. I really hope Starfield has scaling difficulty, really good AI, and the ability to make it challenging in a non artificial way (no fast travel, having to eat food, having to rest for longer periods of time etc.)
 
2022-08-12 9:12:05 PM  

Calehedron: Everquest is 23 years old and still going. I quit playing regularly years ago but still jump on a progression/special ruleset server every few years for a while.

The Quarm server back in 2016 was a blast.


EQ effectively died when WoW launched. EQ2 was a completely underwhelming successor and took years for it to get fixed to even be playable. EQ could have lived on had it implemented QoL changes and became more accessible to the player base. I had so many unique characters I dumped hours into. At the end, I sold my main for over $8,000. The rest of my characters, loot, and Plat was close to $3,000.

I made a pretty good amount of money when I quit WoW also, but nothing like EQ. That was the only game I would set alarms for in order to secure camps and spawn timers. Despite all the antiquated problems it had and really frustrating stuff, it still remains a pioneer and the most cutting edge MMORPG to date. Quad-Kite, Pet Tank ping-pong, Perma Charm, twisting, mezz and lull CC, reverse kiting, root nuking, training, etc etc.
 
2022-08-12 9:43:13 PM  
I usually spend about a month researching, installing, and getting all my mods working properly...at which point I no longer feel like playing.

/Can't even remember if I beat it all, but it was fun.
 
2022-08-12 9:46:55 PM  
Stellaris is almost 8 years old and still releasing DLC... because that's how Paradox and several other companies (but mostly Paradox) justify their existance.  Ditto Europa Universalis IV.

Oh and isn't Age of Empires III still played competitively?  That farking game is 17 years old now and still getting played a ton.
 
2022-08-12 9:52:02 PM  
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2022-08-12 9:58:44 PM  

Colour_out_of_Space: Birnone: I think "Playing" and "Playing with" are two different things. I've played with games like Quake 3(making maps) and Half Life 2(maps, modding, Gmod, etc) for long periods of time but I played those games for short periods of time. I never got into Skyrim, but I did play with Fallout New Vegas a lot. From what I've seen, Bethesda games players 'play with' their games a lot, don't play their games that much.

So all a game really needs to allow for to be a Skyrim type of game is allow players to play around with the game's system and resources. It's true that lots of game developers don't design the games with this in mind.

Will Wright described the Sims as a "toy" rather than a game. Skyrim was an okay game, but to the modding community, it is an exceptional toy.


For me the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are little more than a starting point to enjoy mods. Having said that I must confess that I've never played Skyrim. I think the main reason today is that I have both the original and special editions on Steam and I don't know which would be the better one to install in regards to mods. Nexusmods lists over 50,000 mods for the special and over 60,000 for the original. I don't know what mods I'd want are for which edition or both.
 
2022-08-12 10:00:10 PM  

brigid_fitch: I still play Rogue.


I love that game.
 
2022-08-12 10:06:43 PM  

Calehedron: Everquest is 23 years old and still going. I quit playing regularly years ago but still jump on a progression/special ruleset server every few years for a while.

The Quarm server back in 2016 was a blast.


Ultima Online is judging you from 1997.
 
2022-08-12 10:07:00 PM  

SpaceyCat: brigid_fitch: I still play Rogue.

I love that game.


If only there were something like Rogue.
 
2022-08-12 10:09:36 PM  
Stardew Valley will be on that top echelon of mainstay games one day. If you want, you can play one character/farm infinitely.
 
2022-08-12 10:26:19 PM  
What the hell kind of bullshiat is this? I strongly disagree with stacey

Fallout 4 2015 Witcher 3
GTA V (at 9 but whats gonna stop it)
Dying light is at 8 years
Minecraft public release was a week after skyrim
Dwarf Fortress 2006
Rimworld 2013
Tarkov/Fortnite look likely 5 years in
Dayz 2013
Sims 4 2014

Skyrim is a reasonably fun game i will never finish
 
2022-08-12 10:38:39 PM  

discrete unit: I usually spend about a month researching, installing, and getting all my mods working properly...at which point I no longer feel like playing.

/Can't even remember if I beat it all, but it was fun.


This, but with Fallout 3 & New Vegas. I was at the point where I was getting nearly as much satisfaction installing, testing, and tweaking mods as playing the actual games. When inevitably the game I was modding crashed, if I couldn't fix it after a bit of poking I'd uninstall everything and reinstall the other game and start over with modding that. Actually, that's what I spent election day 2016 doing - reinstalling & modding Fallout 3 so I didn't have to actually watch Fat Donnie win.
 
2022-08-12 10:43:12 PM  
The Long Dark
 
2022-08-12 10:43:50 PM  

farbekrieg: Dwarf Fortress 2006


Speaking of, the Steam version is supposed to be coming out at some point soonish.  Of course, that's Dwarf Fortress soonish, which could be a while, but it's getting there.
 
2022-08-12 10:46:24 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Colour_out_of_Space: Birnone: I think "Playing" and "Playing with" are two different things. I've played with games like Quake 3(making maps) and Half Life 2(maps, modding, Gmod, etc) for long periods of time but I played those games for short periods of time. I never got into Skyrim, but I did play with Fallout New Vegas a lot. From what I've seen, Bethesda games players 'play with' their games a lot, don't play their games that much.

So all a game really needs to allow for to be a Skyrim type of game is allow players to play around with the game's system and resources. It's true that lots of game developers don't design the games with this in mind.

Will Wright described the Sims as a "toy" rather than a game. Skyrim was an okay game, but to the modding community, it is an exceptional toy.

For me the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are little more than a starting point to enjoy mods. Having said that I must confess that I've never played Skyrim. I think the main reason today is that I have both the original and special editions on Steam and I don't know which would be the better one to install in regards to mods. Nexusmods lists over 50,000 mods for the special and over 60,000 for the original. I don't know what mods I'd want are for which edition or both.


The special edition has been out long enough that most of the mods for the original have been updated to work with it.  From a mod standpoint I don't think you'll be missing anything of significance by installing the special edition.
 
2022-08-12 10:49:34 PM  

Smoking GNU: scottydoesntknow: Ohh bullshiat.

I love Skyrim, but i have to agree with you on that one.


You could argue that it isn't likely we'll see another Morrowind (disclosure, I've only finished Oblivion and Skyrim, hardly started Morrowind) since it largely depended on giving devs license to do *anything*, in hopes of shipping before they went out of business.

And much of the reason for Skyrim to be still alive and modded after all these years is that there isn't an Elder Scrolls VI.  Had there been, Skyrim would likely be kicked down to Oblivion's current status.  Sure: some Skyrim mods make it almost graphically modern, and the game really doesn't have that awful leveling system that had to be immediately modded out of Oblivion (my first playthrough only used the notebook mod for that, with the leveling system in full effect).

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: To a lesser but valid extent popularity-wise, Dungeons and Dragons Online and Lord of the Rings Online have been up and running since 2006 and 2007 respectively


And they're running with more or less original game engines, and often the original textures (I remember LOTRO updated Bree back when I played it.  It brings in twice the revenue as DDO, so gets more love).  Of course, they also get content added regularly (or as much as they can add with something like 8 employees dedicated to DDO).

/have Spaceword Ho! on my phone
//way too much time sunk into that
///this slashie running in VGA
 
2022-08-12 10:59:23 PM  
No one actually likes or still plays Skyrim.  It's not farking Minecraft, the game itself kinda sucks.

People own and load up Skyrim as a platform to play user-created mods that actually are fun to play, and they're not playing the same mods they were ten years ago by a long shot.  Essentially people are still playing Minecraft a decade later, in the Skyrim 'shell'.

If I wanted to throw shade, I'd point out that many of the previous games in TES prior to Skyrim actually are good enough that people boot up and play the games themselves (plus some mods to make them playable on modern hardware rather than just, like, make a new game in the hollowed-out corpse of the dead original).  This is extremely unsubtle, talk to an Oblivion player and they'll mention the actual plot or something you can actually do in the base game like breaking alchemy or custom spells in their keep, talk to a nominal "Skyrim" player and they'll tell you about loading up their pink AR-15 to shoot an infinite stream of full-sized pumpkins at the flying ghosts of Thomas the Tank Engine with a custom move-set that they've replaced all the dragons with.
 
2022-08-12 11:16:15 PM  
kab has a point about the article having a point. The industry wants its rent. I'm still playing Doom and Quake and the Id guys aren't getting my money. But they are okay with that.

On the other hand, Skyrim Script Extender shows how far fans will go. If you don't provide for mods, we can still mod it. If we care.

Your job is to make us care enough to learn how to change things. You make it harder to mod, you have to make it easier to care. Or we will just forget about your product.
 
2022-08-12 11:36:59 PM  

Neondistraction: The special edition has been out long enough that most of the mods for the original have been updated to work with it.  From a mod standpoint I don't think you'll be missing anything of significance by installing the special edition.


Thank you, that's the answer that I've been waiting for. Special Edition it is.
 
2022-08-12 11:54:51 PM  
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2022-08-13 12:00:48 AM  
Minecraft, World of Warcraft, EVE Online, League of Legends. Hell, Diablo II even. Grand Theft Auto 5.
 
2022-08-13 12:05:25 AM  

kab: He has a point.  Skyrim has it's longevity solely and completely due to its mod community.   It is loved in spite of its many bugs, and in some ways, because of them.

Yes, there are other games that have equally long life spans, but they're almost all multiplayer, and more importantly, have a cash shop unfortunately strapped to them.   This is what makes Skyrim the last of its kind.

The industry doesn't want you buying a title and enjoying it for years without dropping cash periodically into their coffers.   Bethesda is no different, and you can guaran-farking-tee that Elder Scrolls VI, whenever it comes out, will not be a repeat performance of Skyrim in this regard.


"The industry" or "THE INDUSTRY (tm)(r)(c)"?

Go on steam. Download a game, and see what the mods page looks like.

Us boring "dad" gamers playing City Skylines or Timberborn will be playing these games on and off until the Steam server shuts down, and the last atom spells the heat death if the universe.
 
2022-08-13 12:15:39 AM  
I could probably take a decent stab at an ascension run in Nethack by reflex.
It wouldn't shock me if I have 20,000 login hours on City of Heroes, either.
 
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