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1445 clicks; posted to Business » on 11 Aug 2022 at 7:55 PM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-08-11 5:26:20 PM  
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2022-08-11 6:42:49 PM  
 
2022-08-11 6:52:07 PM  
I'd prefer it if they didn't spend the majority of the article on 'nobody wants to work', and only do the 'but aaactually' at the end...

Nobody wants to work - for what I want to give them," McRae said. "If your entire business model is dependent on paying the lowing possible wages and now you can't pay people enough, you have a problem, you have to adapt."
 
2022-08-11 8:20:19 PM  
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2022-08-11 8:21:55 PM  
I am starting to see a lot of posted salaries in tech field just plummeting.
 
2022-08-11 8:31:02 PM  
We're hiring apprentice Wing-Dang Doodlers with no experience for $20 an hour. A master Wing-Dang Doodler can make $40-$50 an hour, depending on the job.
 
2022-08-11 8:32:13 PM  
My wife took a pay cut for her new job, but with 40-hr weeks vs 60-70, her hourly rate is way up.
 
2022-08-11 8:36:50 PM  
I could never work at that place, either, because they don't know that it's "sign-on bonus," not "sign on bonus."
 
2022-08-11 8:40:20 PM  
Everyone knows this. Including the employers themselves.
 
2022-08-11 8:48:23 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Direct link to the twitter thread that the article is about.


No thanks
 
2022-08-11 8:58:46 PM  
I'm too lazy to read the article, but...I really do think there is an element beyond pay.

I'm old, but when I was younger there was a general belief that crappy jobs had value besides the pay. People my parents age, mostly, seemed to think that a job would teach kids things, prepare them for more serious jobs, and was just generally good for them.

Right or wrong, they thought it would help my college applications and my ability to get jobs after college. Even if it was just working as a pool cashier or McDonald's.

My nephew is now the same age I was, when I got my first job at McDonald's. He doesn't see any value in him working, and neither do his parents. They don't see it as preparation for the future or any of that. They just see it as a low hourly wage and they would rather have him help around the house/cut the grass and give him some untaxed cash.
 
2022-08-11 9:11:06 PM  
Are these people the ones biatching about immigrants?
 
2022-08-11 9:16:41 PM  
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2022-08-11 10:51:19 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm too lazy to read the article, but...I really do think there is an element beyond pay.

I'm old, but when I was younger there was a general belief that crappy jobs had value besides the pay. People my parents age, mostly, seemed to think that a job would teach kids things, prepare them for more serious jobs, and was just generally good for them.

Right or wrong, they thought it would help my college applications and my ability to get jobs after college. Even if it was just working as a pool cashier or McDonald's.

My nephew is now the same age I was, when I got my first job at McDonald's. He doesn't see any value in him working, and neither do his parents. They don't see it as preparation for the future or any of that. They just see it as a low hourly wage and they would rather have him help around the house/cut the grass and give him some untaxed cash.


Most of the families in my town want their kids to go to enriching classes or internships during the summers or after school.
These "opportunities" are expensive and exclusive.  Think Russian math or volunteering at the town hall.  They open some big doors that working at a fast food chain can't supply.
 
2022-08-11 10:54:29 PM  

bubbadave1056: I could never work at that place, either, because they don't know that it's "sign-on bonus," not "sign on bonus."


I'll take a look at the number beside the bonus. If the figure looks good label the bonus whatever the fark you wish.
 
2022-08-11 11:30:03 PM  
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2022-08-12 4:29:48 AM  
Yeah, this is one of my pet peeves.  "The kids these days don't want to work".  For starters, I remember people saying that when I was a 20 year old working my ass off.  Next, who the fark wants to work?  I want to get paid and I'm willing to work for it.  Finally, as a manager I can say in my experience there is absolutely no correlation between age and work ethic.

To add to that, the kids these days really do have it worse than I did.  My first apartment was less than a week's pay at the time as an apprentice carpenter and it wasn't even in a bad neighborhood.  I was outside smoking with a 21 year old woman the other day, she was vaping, she was clearly stressed out so I investigated, her dad is pressing her to move out and holy shiat apartments have gone insane in the last few years.

She couldn't find one that cost less than the mortgage on my house.
 
2022-08-12 6:36:03 AM  

electricjebus: Yeah, this is one of my pet peeves.  "The kids these days don't want to work".  For starters, I remember people saying that when I was a 20 year old working my ass off.  Next, who the fark wants to work?  I want to get paid and I'm willing to work for it.  Finally, as a manager I can say in my experience there is absolutely no correlation between age and work ethic.

To add to that, the kids these days really do have it worse than I did.  My first apartment was less than a week's pay at the time as an apprentice carpenter and it wasn't even in a bad neighborhood.  I was outside smoking with a 21 year old woman the other day, she was vaping, she was clearly stressed out so I investigated, her dad is pressing her to move out and holy shiat apartments have gone insane in the last few years.

She couldn't find one that cost less than the mortgage on my house.


Apartments across the street from my work are $3000/month for a studio and $4500/month for a 2 bedroom.
All things considered though those rents are lower than the cost of owning in the area, and they are in a convenient area near mass transit and high paying jobs.
It's really that wages and benefits have been severely cut over the years.
 
2022-08-12 7:26:33 AM  

Northern: electricjebus: Yeah, this is one of my pet peeves.  "The kids these days don't want to work".  For starters, I remember people saying that when I was a 20 year old working my ass off.  Next, who the fark wants to work?  I want to get paid and I'm willing to work for it.  Finally, as a manager I can say in my experience there is absolutely no correlation between age and work ethic.

To add to that, the kids these days really do have it worse than I did.  My first apartment was less than a week's pay at the time as an apprentice carpenter and it wasn't even in a bad neighborhood.  I was outside smoking with a 21 year old woman the other day, she was vaping, she was clearly stressed out so I investigated, her dad is pressing her to move out and holy shiat apartments have gone insane in the last few years.

She couldn't find one that cost less than the mortgage on my house.

Apartments across the street from my work are $3000/month for a studio and $4500/month for a 2 bedroom.
All things considered though those rents are lower than the cost of owning in the area, and they are in a convenient area near mass transit and high paying jobs.
It's really that wages and benefits have been severely cut over the years.


Less than 20 years ago my first apartment cost $350 a month and I bought a used 01 F-150 with 12,000 miles on it for $12,000.
 
2022-08-12 12:35:53 PM  
If my pay had just kept up with inflation, I'd be making 25% more than I am.
 
2022-08-12 2:23:46 PM  
"No one wants to work" is the ideology of the current GOP in a nutshell: It's not true, it makes no sense, and it's whining on behalf of rich people.
 
2022-08-12 2:38:46 PM  
What do these "no one wants to work!" morans think everyone is doing for money? Covid subsidies ran out like a year ago and unemployment is a joke in most of the country.

/The answer, of course, is "They haven't thought about it at all."
 
2022-08-12 3:29:56 PM  

Fireproof: "No one wants to work" is the ideology of the current GOP conservative in a nutshell: It's not true, it makes no sense, and it's whining on behalf of rich people.


FTFY.

Fireproof: What do these "no one wants to work!" morans think everyone is doing for money? Covid subsidies ran out like a year ago and unemployment is a joke in most of the country.

/The answer, of course, is "They haven't thought about it at all."


It's gaslighting. All anybody ever does is work.
 
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