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(CNN)   Disney+ had an amazing quarter, so naturally they're going to start forcing ads onto those customers who don't want to pay $3 more per month to not see them   (cnn.com) divider line
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2022-08-11 10:06:14 AM  
Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.
 
2022-08-11 10:11:32 AM  

growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.


How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?
 
2022-08-11 10:14:45 AM  
So sunny days of "I can't believe I am paying only $7.99 for the amount of content I'm getting" are coming to and end and am now entering the dark days of "$10.99 isn't as awesome, but it is still well worth the amount of content I'm getting".

/having every episode** of the first ten seasons of The Simpsons is easily worth half that
//** - except the Michael Jackson episode, which I still think it is stupid that they yanked, but that was Matt Groening's and James L Brooks' decision, not Disney's
 
2022-08-11 10:15:53 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?


I'm pretty sure those multimillion dollar salaries for executives add up.
 
2022-08-11 10:16:57 AM  
Now everyone is like "When is the dividend coming back?"
 
2022-08-11 10:17:30 AM  
They're making some great offerings, honestly.

That said, all these subscriptions going up in price is going to have to give in the form of me getting more selective about what I subscribe to. I like to keep my total streaming service subs at around $50/mo. So I'm certain to look at my usage & make some cuts soon.
 
2022-08-11 10:20:04 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?

I'm pretty sure those multimillion dollar salaries for executives add up.


That's a cash flow thing.  You just need to creatively but legally show higher expenses with lower income, so that your earnings on paper are low.  You can still have a positive cash flow while making minimal profits, or a loss that happens to be able to be carried forward on future tax bills.
 
2022-08-11 10:22:05 AM  
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2022-08-11 10:23:31 AM  
Here's a trick: You don't have to subscribe indefinitely. only subscribe when you can watch the content you want, unsubscribe when you're done.
I subbed to AMC+ in June and I'm not holding on to it beyond next Monday.

Disney+ I subscribe by the year...I didn't see an increase in that tier in TFA
 
2022-08-11 10:38:39 AM  
"This move appears to be Disney's way of pushing consumers to sign up for its entire slate of services rather than just one. And from a pricing perspective, it's hard to say no to a bundle that has three services that's just $9 more per month than Disney's largest service."

Sure it is: "No."

This tactic is EXACTLY what the cable companies did for years with channel bundles and tiers, forcing people to pay for the 10 home shopping network channels they didn't want in order to get the one channel they did want.

The result of that tactic was people getting fed up with cable, cutting the cord, and switching to streaming services (or pirating content). And now thw streaming services are doing the same farking thing the cable companies did that led to their downfall. History repeats itself.
 
2022-08-11 10:49:54 AM  

cooldaddygroove: Here's a trick: You don't have to subscribe indefinitely. only subscribe when you can watch the content you want, unsubscribe when you're done.


I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

However, don't be surprised when these services start farking with your ability to do that.
 
2022-08-11 10:59:38 AM  
Sell that f*cking stock and run.

There's a sh*t storm coming, Randy.
 
2022-08-11 11:05:20 AM  
Well, bye bye mouse......
 
2022-08-11 11:09:34 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: cooldaddygroove: Here's a trick: You don't have to subscribe indefinitely. only subscribe when you can watch the content you want, unsubscribe when you're done.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

However, don't be surprised when these services start farking with your ability to do that.


If that happens, then I guess I don't need to watch.  Maybe ill go outside
 
2022-08-11 11:11:18 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?


I think building the infrastructure for the system, after all this 1/4 saw huge growth in Disney+ members, is why they lost $ but had huge growth in subscribers.

SpaceMonkey-66: Well, bye bye mouse......


Actually, the park division blew the stock analyst away.
 
2022-08-11 11:15:15 AM  
They're trying to get people to sigh up for long term contracts.
 
2022-08-11 11:19:02 AM  

cooldaddygroove: Here's a trick: You don't have to subscribe indefinitely. only subscribe when you can watch the content you want, unsubscribe when you're done.


That's why they're raising the monthly price, They rather have you locked in for the long term.
 
2022-08-11 11:22:44 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.


I know a guy that still pays for AOL, has mental health breakdowns on Facebook about Facebook and won't take a break from Facebook because he might miss something.  I have to assume there are people afraid of unsubscribing to Netflix because FOMO cuz some ya'll craycray
 
2022-08-11 11:36:09 AM  

growinthings: Actually, the park division blew the stock analyst away.


Yeah, Netflix has higher revenue per subscriber, but the money Disney's streaming service is part of a mutually beneficial (revenue generating) system that includes merch, cruise ships, resorts, and amusement parks.

/shareholder
 
2022-08-11 11:37:32 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: cooldaddygroove: Here's a trick: You don't have to subscribe indefinitely. only subscribe when you can watch the content you want, unsubscribe when you're done.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

However, don't be surprised when these services start farking with your ability to do that.

If that happens, then I guess I don't need to watch.  Maybe ill go outside


We hates the day moon, precious.  hiss

But if it's outside or cable prices,  I can go tan.
 
2022-08-11 11:57:27 AM  
I only got it to watch that Beatles doc (Get Back) so I just now cancelled.
I don't seem to care much about their other stuff (its not bad, just not compelling to me)
Might do the same with Apple+ (I already watched the VU doc)

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2022-08-11 12:09:51 PM  

gunga galunga: So sunny days of "I can't believe I am paying only $7.99 for the amount of content I'm getting" are coming to and end and am now entering the dark days of "$10.99 isn't as awesome, but it is still well worth the amount of content I'm getting".

/having every episode** of the first ten seasons of The Simpsons is easily worth half that
//** - except the Michael Jackson episode, which I still think it is stupid that they yanked, but that was Matt Groening's and James L Brooks' decision, not Disney's


As an adult with no kids I'd guess we have watched less than 12 hours of content on Disney+ this year, so ymmv. And that was me watching Loki and Hawkeye.  We might watch She Hulk. My wife pays or I would have just torrented that stuff myself.
 
2022-08-11 12:17:08 PM  

Dick Gozinya: "This move appears to be Disney's way of pushing consumers to sign up for its entire slate of services rather than just one. And from a pricing perspective, it's hard to say no to a bundle that has three services that's just $9 more per month than Disney's largest service."

Sure it is: "No."

This tactic is EXACTLY what the cable companies did for years with channel bundles and tiers, forcing people to pay for the 10 home shopping network channels they didn't want in order to get the one channel they did want.

The result of that tactic was people getting fed up with cable, cutting the cord, and switching to streaming services (or pirating content). And now thw streaming services are doing the same farking thing the cable companies did that led to their downfall. History repeats itself.


Yup, that's why Netflix was always my savior, making it so that I didn't have to get the ultra super duper package just so I could get the equivalent of TNT, TCM, USA, TBS and Cartoon Network on the same package and not also 90 Spanish language home shopping channels
 
2022-08-11 12:17:24 PM  

gunga galunga: So sunny days of "I can't believe I am paying only $7.99 for the amount of content I'm getting" are coming to and end and am now entering the dark days of "$10.99 isn't as awesome, but it is still well worth the amount of content I'm getting".

/having every episode** of the first ten seasons of The Simpsons is easily worth half that
//** - except the Michael Jackson episode, which I still think it is stupid that they yanked, but that was Matt Groening's and James L Brooks' decision, not Disney's


Which is why physical media is still relevant because I own that set and can watch the Michael Jackson episode whenever I want.
Disney+ has enough content to keep me hooked, but I might  only subscribe in future for binging purposes.
 
2022-08-11 12:20:41 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: brainlordmesomorph: kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?

I'm pretty sure those multimillion dollar salaries for executives add up.

That's a cash flow thing.  You just need to creatively but legally show higher expenses with lower income, so that your earnings on paper are low.  You can still have a positive cash flow while making minimal profits, or a loss that happens to be able to be carried forward on future tax bills.


Those movies cost a lot of money. Netflix spent $200 million on The Grey Man.

Disney spent $88 million on Prey and skipped a theatrical release to screw over HBO.
 
2022-08-11 12:46:29 PM  
I wonder how that's going to work out for people like me who have it included in our Verizon wireless package.
 
2022-08-11 1:22:29 PM  
csb/
I recently does Netflix in favor of the Disney+/Hulu package using a Roku (screw watching ESPN).
The amount of available content rivals what's left at Netflix, and the ads don't bother me as they're usually under 1.5 minutes, I like network TV with six minute ad blitzes.  I've found and tagged so much other free content ony Roku I couldn't be more happy.  Yes, Netflix was the first mover and did a lot of great things to disrupt the market; however, someone kept sniffing scads of farts and didn't think Netflix could do no wrong.  At one time, the Netflix Original content was well written, absolutely fantastic story telling.  Then it devolved into mindless tripe.  I held on to watch the most recent season of Stranger Things and don't know if I'll bother to return for the final season.
/csb
 
2022-08-11 1:45:56 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?


Some if it is Hollywood accounting I think. Like when Shang Chi showed up on D+ I believe D+ has to pay marvel some sort of fair market value for it. Because there are contracts that are tied to streaming revenue and there would be lawsuits if that happened. So even though it doesn't really cost Disney corporate anything, it is still an expense for D+.
 
2022-08-11 1:50:25 PM  

growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.


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2022-08-11 2:08:57 PM  

DrBrownCow: growinthings: Actually, the park division blew the stock analyst away.

Yeah, Netflix has higher revenue per subscriber, but the money Disney's streaming service is part of a mutually beneficial (revenue generating) system that includes merch, cruise ships, resorts, and amusement parks.

/shareholder


Stock owner is more honest.

Holding implies that someone else actually owns it.
 
2022-08-11 2:10:08 PM  

cooldaddygroove: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

I know a guy that still pays for AOL, has mental health breakdowns on Facebook about Facebook and won't take a break from Facebook because he might miss something.  I have to assume there are people afraid of unsubscribing to Netflix because FOMO cuz some ya'll craycray


Sounds like hes not playing w a full deck
 
2022-08-11 2:11:06 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: They're trying to get people to sigh up for long term contracts.


Economists call it rent seeking
 
2022-08-11 2:56:55 PM  

Dick Gozinya: "This move appears to be Disney's way of pushing consumers to sign up for its entire slate of services rather than just one. And from a pricing perspective, it's hard to say no to a bundle that has three services that's just $9 more per month than Disney's largest service."

Sure it is: "No."

This tactic is EXACTLY what the cable companies did for years with channel bundles and tiers, forcing people to pay for the 10 home shopping network channels they didn't want in order to get the one channel they did want.

The result of that tactic was people getting fed up with cable, cutting the cord, and switching to streaming services (or pirating content). And now thw streaming services are doing the same farking thing the cable companies did that led to their downfall. History repeats itself.


Anyway, the trick if you don't want ESPN+ is to subscribe to Disney+ For the regular price and then during Black Friday sign up for the $1 a month for 12 months Hulu promotion they do every year. Rinse and repeat with the following year, swapping back and forth between email addresses and credit cards when necessary.

The holiday period is when you really want to lock in some low prices on your streaming services for the coming year. EVERYONE is running promos if you sign up for a year.
 
2022-08-11 2:59:05 PM  
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2022-08-11 3:00:31 PM  

mechgreg: kittyhas1000legs: growinthings: Subby, I'm a stockholder, a passholder and a subscriber to Disney+.

They did have a great financial quarter, however, Disney+, ESPN+ & Hulu picked up many millions of subscribers, yet, those three divisions, lost over a combined $1.1billion.  That's why the fees when up.

How did they lose that much? Are they using Hollywood accounting?

Some if it is Hollywood accounting I think. Like when Shang Chi showed up on D+ I believe D+ has to pay marvel some sort of fair market value for it. Because there are contracts that are tied to streaming revenue and there would be lawsuits if that happened. So even though it doesn't really cost Disney corporate anything, it is still an expense for D+.


Yeah, it is all just a way to screw anyone who has "monkey points" out of their percentage of the net.
 
2022-08-11 3:26:55 PM  
nobody can take anything away from you if you don't want it.

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Sounds like a personal problem.
 
2022-08-11 3:31:38 PM  

cooldaddygroove: I know a guy that still pays for AOL, has mental health breakdowns on Facebook about Facebook and won't take a break from Facebook because he might miss something.  I have to assume there are people afraid of unsubscribing to Netflix because FOMO cuz some ya'll craycray


Excellent.

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2022-08-11 4:28:02 PM  
Chief Superintendent Lookout:

"I like network TV with six minute ad blitzes. "

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Content aside, I hate ads interrupting things. Always have. These streaming companies are gonna revive torrenting if they aren't careful.
 
2022-08-11 4:43:56 PM  

leeksfromchichis: Chief Superintendent Lookout:

"I like network TV with six minute ad blitzes. "

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Content aside, I hate ads interrupting things. Always have. These streaming companies are gonna revive torrenting if they aren't careful.


*Not like the six minutes of ads

Swear to dog I am going HULK SMASH my effing fone.
 
2022-08-11 5:03:03 PM  
Ads between shows or ads interrupting shows?
 
2022-08-11 9:37:38 PM  
OH NO!!! $3 MORE DOLLARS A MONTH! THIS WILL HURT THE ONES OF PEOPLE WHO COULD AFFORD $8, BUT FOR SOME REASON CAN'T AFFORD $11!

And for reference, cable is a paid service but still has commercials and costs a hell of a lot more, so it's not like this is suddenly a bad deal.
 
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