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(IGN)   Peter Jackson wanted to forget making the Lord of the Rings movies almost as much as everyone else wanted to forget the three Hobbit movies   (ign.com) divider line
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2022-08-10 1:48:54 PM  
My work was so astonishingly good that my one, most fervent wish would be to forget all about ever creating it and simply enjoy it as my most ardent fans enjoy it.

It's an oddly nuanced humblebrag, but OK.
 
2022-08-10 1:52:02 PM  
There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out
 
2022-08-10 2:00:45 PM  
Animate the stone giant scene and the Beorn scene, find some voice acting talent that can mimic the original voices, edit them all together and this is the only Hobbit movie you need.


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2022-08-10 2:08:58 PM  
Your favorite fantasy/sci fi series sucks.
 
2022-08-10 2:12:44 PM  
Geez, Peter Jackson really hates not being in the news lately.

It's like he's turning into GRR Martin or something.
 
2022-08-10 2:18:09 PM  

Pocket Ninja: My work was so astonishingly good that my one, most fervent wish would be to forget all about ever creating it and simply enjoy it as my most ardent fans enjoy it.

It's an oddly nuanced humblebrag, but OK.


Anything to stay in the news cycle
 
2022-08-10 2:21:58 PM  
If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!
 
2022-08-10 2:24:37 PM  

madgonad: Pocket Ninja: My work was so astonishingly good that my one, most fervent wish would be to forget all about ever creating it and simply enjoy it as my most ardent fans enjoy it.

It's an oddly nuanced humblebrag, but OK.

Anything to stay in the news cycle


I thought maybe he had a movie coming out soon-ish, like this fall/winter and this was part of the marketing build up (remind you he exists, etc.).  But nope, Just the conclusion to his Beatles documentary.
 
2022-08-10 2:25:27 PM  

skyotter: Geez, Peter Jackson really hates not being in the news lately.

It's like he's turning into GRR Martin or something.


OMG I HEARD HE WAS THINKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME ROUGH OUTLINE WORK ON A FANTASY SERIES EVEN THE MOST DIEHARD FANS NO LONGER GIVE A SINGLE SHIAT ABOUT!!!! OH OH OH!!!!!
 
2022-08-10 2:26:30 PM  

Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!


Except that was the Rankin/Bass adaptation of Return of the King.
 
2022-08-10 2:32:44 PM  
I haven't like a Peter Jackson movie since The Frighteners. The Tolkien movies were staggeringly undramatic. King Kong could have lost an hour. An hour.
 
2022-08-10 2:33:26 PM  
There are several movies and shows I wish I could forget so I could watch them again for the first time. You can never recreate the magic of the first time you see something great.
 
2022-08-10 2:35:11 PM  

gunga galunga: Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!

Except that was the Rankin/Bass adaptation of Return of the King.


Gimmie a break, it's been decades and even then I only watched it because Toronto had all of five OTA channels and it was the best option at the time.
 
2022-08-10 2:35:28 PM  

yakmans_dad: I haven't like a Peter Jackson movie since The Frighteners. The Tolkien movies were staggeringly undramatic. King Kong could have lost an hour. An hour.


If you haven't seen this you're seriously missing out.
'They Shall Not Grow Old' Trailer
Youtube 74h-o8dFU8E
 
2022-08-10 2:42:16 PM  
The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.
 
2022-08-10 2:52:30 PM  

DarnoKonrad: The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.


You're allowed to be wrong but damn
 
2022-08-10 2:53:34 PM  
Without Jackson bringing them to life we may not have the Grond meme with full color photos that is big right now. Whether that is good or bad, i do not know.
 
2022-08-10 2:54:51 PM  

skyotter: Geez, Peter Jackson really hates not being in the news lately.

It's like he's turning into GRR Martin or something.


It's almost like there's a new Lord of the Rings series being released in less than a month or something.
 
2022-08-10 2:56:18 PM  

DarnoKonrad: The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.


I re-read the trilogy as an adult. The further the story moves from the environs of the Shire, the worse it gets. +600 pages of talkin' and stalkin', yackin' and hackin'. Basically, after the story leaves Bree, it's an endurance contest. I tried to re-read The Hobbit, but it is a children's book. Both works -- LotR and The Hobbit -- were elaborately praised by eminent literary men -- WH Auden loved them, Edmund Wilson loathed them. So, if you disagree with me, fine. (I think Wilson is the critic Tolkien refers to in the preface.)

But all of the Tolkien movies by Jackson are just impossibly dull. He has no sense of drama or even pace. If something occurs to him, he films it.
 
2022-08-10 3:06:26 PM  

DarnoKonrad: The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.


Sort of.  The hobbit stuff was for kids.  It's silly and sometimes stuff just happens without the level of complexity an adult would expect.  That's not 'inferior', that is 'different'.

But LotR?  Boring, full of exposition and poetry and a few completely unnecessary bits that never should have made it into the final published document.  The movies are far better in telling the story in a way suitable for a broader audience.  But without those boring books we wouldn't have the movies... Or the Western fantasy genre as we know it.
 
2022-08-10 3:10:27 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: yakmans_dad: I haven't like a Peter Jackson movie since The Frighteners. The Tolkien movies were staggeringly undramatic. King Kong could have lost an hour. An hour.

If you haven't seen this you're seriously missing out.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/74h-o8dFU8E]


Yes. I've seen it.
 
2022-08-10 3:25:17 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: There are several movies and shows I wish I could forget so I could watch them again for the first time. You can never recreate the magic of the first time you see something great.


Yeah. Now take that and amplify that by being directly involved in the creation of said magic, and knowing how every single scene came together and, because it was your job to make all of that come together, all you can see is what you did and remember the choices you made to get there. 

I can't blame the guy for wanting to forget it so he could experience it with fresh eyes. 

Given the advancement in movies, however, I'm disinclined to think he'll be as enthralled as we were when we came out since the movies definitely show their age so it's a lose lose situation for him. Even if he forgot it all, he'd still likely not be able to enjoy it the same way the fans do.
 
2022-08-10 3:29:09 PM  

DarnoKonrad: The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.


Why stop there? Boast about how you're a sexual conquistador who's conquered our mothers!
 
2022-08-10 3:43:06 PM  

weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out


Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?
 
2022-08-10 3:49:30 PM  
The LOTR trilogy freaks me out how the size relationships between characters is inconsistent from shot to shot.
 
2022-08-10 3:50:21 PM  

Unsung_Hero: DarnoKonrad: The Hobbit movies are just as good as the original trilogy.

Here's my real hot take, the source material for both are overrated and inferior to the movies.

Sort of.  The hobbit stuff was for kids.  It's silly and sometimes stuff just happens without the level of complexity an adult would expect.  That's not 'inferior', that is 'different'.

But LotR?  Boring, full of exposition and poetry and a few completely unnecessary bits that never should have made it into the final published document.  The movies are far better in telling the story in a way suitable for a broader audience.  But without those boring books we wouldn't have the movies... Or the Western fantasy genre as we know it.


Before this gets interesting, let's take a break and describe what everyone is wearing, down to the tiniest details you'd never see standing in the same room with them.
 
2022-08-10 3:54:22 PM  

Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!


Fifteen Birds Tribute (Funny Little Things)
Youtube bkNXzXtgkHU
 
2022-08-10 3:58:31 PM  

Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?


100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.
 
2022-08-10 4:07:43 PM  

MechaPyx: Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/bkNXzXtgkHU]


Also this one...
Down Down to Goblin Town (Original VHS Audio restored) - The Hobbit 1977
Youtube WTIw5Sx_kAU
 
2022-08-10 4:21:02 PM  

weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.


How about the Scooby-Doo chase scene that sucked all the menace out of Smaug?
 
2022-08-10 4:28:05 PM  

weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.


Links or you're making it up.
 
2022-08-10 4:28:29 PM  

gunga galunga: Animate the stone giant scene and the Beorn scene, find some voice acting talent that can mimic the original voices, edit them all together and this is the only Hobbit movie you need.


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Had that on vinyl. Gawd am I old.
 
2022-08-10 4:30:09 PM  
Jeez, y'all are missing the best song.
Where there's a whip, there's a way!
Youtube YdXQJS3Yv0Y
 
2022-08-10 4:32:20 PM  
Leonard Nimoy: The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins - Full Album Version
Youtube BC35cQKHwzg


How they could have improved the hobbit movies
 
2022-08-10 4:32:28 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.

Links or you're making it up.


https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/
 
2022-08-10 4:37:16 PM  
Between the studio demands (including having it expanded from two to three films during filming) and how little time Jackson had to prep the movies (he had 3.5 years of pre-production on Lord of the Rings for comparison), I'm actually kind of surprised at the level of quality the Hobbit films managed to achieve (disappointing as they were).  They could have easily been a lot worse.

The Hobbit: Battle of Five Studios (Part 2/2)
Youtube ElPJr_tKkO4
 
2022-08-10 4:38:23 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The LOTR trilogy freaks me out how the size relationships between characters is inconsistent from shot to shot.


The tallest cast member in the fellowship was John Ryhs-Davies, IIRC, and the hobbit actors were regular sized so every shot was a trick of some kind
 
2022-08-10 4:42:27 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Jeez, y'all are missing the best song.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YdXQJS3Yv0Y]


An Exhaustive History of Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings
Youtube Cr_rb_pitHk
 
2022-08-10 4:45:03 PM  
I recently listened to the Hobbit and the LOTR on audiobook as read by Andy 'Gollum' Serkis. He did an amazing job narrating IMO, and he narrated it all, even the hours long appendix at the end. He also sang all the songs in both works. It is much easier to skip to the end of the songs when reading compared to listening. Some of those droned on for 5-6 minutes. I hit that 15 second skip button often. I am sure they were amazing, they just weren't my bag
 
2022-08-10 4:55:52 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.

Links or you're making it up.


Here is one I haven't watched. The one I have is by Funny Puzzle, I think

http://www.maple-films.com/downloads.html
 
2022-08-10 5:14:04 PM  

weddingsinger: Cthulhu Theory: weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.

Links or you're making it up.

Here is one I haven't watched. The one I have is by Funny Puzzle, I think

http://www.maple-films.com/downloads.html


Tha'll dyew pig, tha'll dyew. (Thanks.)
 
2022-08-10 5:35:32 PM  
I originally watched The Hobbit and then, reluctantly, the Desolation of Smaug. Never bothered with Battle of Five Armies.

Now it's on Prime and I've watched The Hobbit and am midway through DoS where the whole Laketown thing starts and I... just don't give a crap. The book was a nice tight magical adventure. The movies are a slog of boring side quests about other people's much less interesting adventures. The reliance on extending fight scenes for drama was taken even further than in LotR which was already a bit too far, which is part of why BoFA doesn't appeal to me.

LotR suffered from needing to fit too much into three movies. The Hobbit suffered from needing to fit not enough. I'm hopeful for Rings of Power.
 
2022-08-10 5:41:54 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Jeez, y'all are missing the best song.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YdXQJS3Yv0Y]

This. I am here for this

Tax Boy: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/BC35cQKHwzg]

How they could have improved the hobbit movies

And also this
 
2022-08-10 6:53:45 PM  

weddingsinger: Cthulhu Theory: weddingsinger: Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?

100% completely gone, along with the dwarf/elf romance subplot.

Links or you're making it up.

Here is one I haven't watched. The one I have is by Funny Puzzle, I think

http://www.maple-films.com/downloads.html


Thanks, pared down that might be a good movie...
 
2022-08-10 7:42:07 PM  
I'll always think of him appreciatively as the creator of Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles and Dead Alive.

That to me is a good thing. They're ace.
 
2022-08-10 8:11:07 PM  

gunga galunga: Animate the stone giant scene and the Beorn scene, find some voice acting talent that can mimic the original voices, edit them all together and this is the only Hobbit movie you need.


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EeeeeeeEEEEeeeeee
 
2022-08-10 8:12:10 PM  

Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!


There is not a day that goes by I don't say "fool! No man may hinder me! Die now, and curse in vain!"
 
2022-08-10 8:14:34 PM  

Great_Milenko: weddingsinger: There are fan edits online that turn the eight hours of three crappy Hobbit movies into one respectable 3ish hour film centered on Bilbo. If you had high hopes they're worth checking out

Does it get rid of the guy with bird shiat on his head?


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Looks like I get to keep using this one
 
2022-08-10 8:15:30 PM  

MechaPyx: Unsung_Hero: If there isn't a choir constantly singing of "Frodo, of the nine fingers, and the ring of doom", it ain't a Hobbit movie!

[YouTube video: Fifteen Birds Tribute (Funny Little Things)]


Each to his own, boys. I likes mine.... RAAAAAAWWWWW
 
2022-08-11 12:20:10 AM  
Making movies based on beloved books is always risky and frequently disappointing. Jackson got some things right and he got some things terribly wrong.
 
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