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(Yahoo)   Diane Keaton said nobody wanted Al Pacino for Godfather. Pacino says he liked Simonetta Steffanelli better   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2022-08-10 3:13:49 PM  
I thought it was pretty well known that the studio wanted Robert Redford, Warren Beatty or Ryan O'Neal, but Coppola insisted on an Italian American actor.
 
2022-08-10 4:26:40 PM  
Robert Evans called him 'that shrimp'.    I didn't realize until recently, that it was his first big role, though.  I had thought he at least did Dog Day Afternoon at that point, but that actually was after Godfather 2.    He was pretty much an unknown.
 
2022-08-10 4:29:16 PM  
That's old news. FFS, it was a subplot on the series about the making of The Godfather.

In 1971, Pacino was still primarily a stage actor, and Paramount wanted a movie star to play Michael.
On the bonus features of the DVD set, there's even a montage where pretty much every name actor from that time who was between 25 and 35 came in to read for the role. Even James Caan did a screen test as a backup.
 
2022-08-10 4:44:44 PM  

stoli n coke: That's old news. FFS, it was a subplot on the series about the making of The Godfather.

In 1971, Pacino was still primarily a stage actor, and Paramount wanted a movie star to play Michael.
On the bonus features of the DVD set, there's even a montage where pretty much every name actor from that time who was between 25 and 35 came in to read for the role. Even James Caan did a screen test as a backup.


Coppola wanted Caan. Read Puzo's memoir on the screen testing. Mario cajoled him out of it.

Of course, this is from the author. Gifted, but human like the rest of us. He also writes of how to beat Vegas. Ad nauseum.
 
2022-08-10 4:46:22 PM  

T.rex: Robert Evans called him 'that shrimp'.    I didn't realize until recently, that it was his first big role, though.  I had thought he at least did Dog Day Afternoon at that point, but that actually was after Godfather 2.    He was pretty much an unknown.


Panic In Needle Park got him noticed
 
2022-08-10 4:55:29 PM  
To be fair, Michael didn't really want Kay.
 
2022-08-10 4:57:56 PM  
Lady Gaga was in The Godfather?

I did not know that
 
2022-08-10 5:00:47 PM  
There's actually screen test of them using Sammy Caan for Michael.
 
2022-08-10 5:18:36 PM  
Apparently the studio was still fighting Copolla on Pacino until they got the dailies for this scene

The Godfather : Michael shoots Sollozzo
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After this, not a peep
 
2022-08-10 5:21:30 PM  
CSB: The scene where wife #1 gets blown up took place at a family friends place. Supposedly
 
2022-08-10 5:55:33 PM  
Who could do better than these two.

The Godfather part 2 Michael closes door on Kay
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2022-08-10 6:09:08 PM  
Sad Pacino went from the understated performances in the Godfather films* to mugging for the camera in an Adam Sandler thing**.

*The real ones, not the supposed 3rd one.
**You can't even call them movies, more like "ways to rip off the public".
 
2022-08-10 6:16:47 PM  
I always wondered who would have gotten cast if Sergio Leone had taken Paramount's offer to direct.
 
2022-08-10 6:47:03 PM  

stoli n coke: I always wondered who would have gotten cast if Sergio Leone had taken Paramount's offer to direct.


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2022-08-10 6:51:32 PM  

Snapper Carr: Apparently the studio was still fighting Copolla on Pacino until they got the dailies for this scene

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After this, not a peep


You'll note that Pacino bumps the camera as he exits the scene.  You can see a little shake there as he disappears at the right side.
 
2022-08-10 6:53:21 PM  

rnatalie: There's actually screen test of them using Sammy Caan for Michael.


James Caan as Michael (trials from the Godfather)
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2022-08-10 6:56:52 PM  

Snapper Carr: stoli n coke: I always wondered who would have gotten cast if Sergio Leone had taken Paramount's offer to direct.

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Clint was already off setting up his own production company and learning how to direct. That's why he didn't appear in Once Upon a Time in the West.

Clint, Lee Van Cleef, and Eli Wallach were Sergio's original idea for the three assassins who meet Bronson at the train station.
 
2022-08-10 7:35:41 PM  
Huh. Well, they blowed up my first wife real good, but i still need a wife. I need to find someone I care about...but not too much, you know?  And it is impossible to date and run a crime family. Who does that leave?
 
2022-08-10 7:50:33 PM  
Kay was no slouch but man, Apollonia breathed rarefied air on the yowzers scale.
 
2022-08-10 7:58:07 PM  

T.rex: Robert Evans called him 'that shrimp'.    I didn't realize until recently, that it was his first big role, though.  I had thought he at least did Dog Day Afternoon at that point, but that actually was after Godfather 2.    He was pretty much an unknown.


Big name supporting actors were out of the question.

Despite being based on a huge best seller and having a baked in audience, GF1's total budget was $6 million (around $30 million in today's dollars), and a fifth of the budget was just to pay Marlon Brando. After that, you're talking about a movie with dozens of speaking parts, they were shooting in New York and had to have sets, costumes, cars, and props that looked authentic for right around the end of World War II (Coppola even pointed out having to get wooden bumpers for some of the cars, because when they were sold in 1945, metal bumpers didn't come with them because of rationing for the war effort).

They were literally trying to make a sprawling epic with the relative budget of a modern romantic comedy. Because of that, any actor that wasn't Brando worked for Screen Actor's Guild minimum wage.

James Caan famously pointed out that he got paid more for the single flashback scene in GF2 that was shot in a day than he did working on the first one for five weeks.
 
2022-08-10 7:58:28 PM  
That scene where he introduces himself to her father is the most baller thing ever.
 
2022-08-10 8:17:55 PM  

Snapper Carr: Apparently the studio was still fighting Copolla on Pacino until they got the dailies for this scene

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After this, not a peep


Thanks for that, I hadn't seen it in a few years.
 
2022-08-10 9:18:19 PM  
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He's not wrong.
 
2022-08-10 9:22:31 PM  
The Offer is surprisingly faithful to accounts of what actually happened. It's on Paramount+ so no one watched it. It starts of a bit rough but after a few episodes I couldn't stop watching it, might be worth a free trial.
 
2022-08-10 9:31:08 PM  
We haven't watched the first Godfather in several years, but whenever the movie comes up in conversation, it's always in connection with some actor's bad hair. Is this worse than Diane Keaton's in The Godfather? Time and time again. Is this hair-do worse than what they gave Diane Keaton? So far, the only one that has come close is Javier Bardem's in No Country for Old Men. I have no inside info, but I think the Coens did that so that they could challenge for the lead. If Diane Keaton hadn't been such a great actress that hair-do would have sunk her career.

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2022-08-10 9:54:23 PM  

yakmans_dad: We haven't watched the first Godfather in several years, but whenever the movie comes up in conversation, it's always in connection with some actor's bad hair. Is this worse than Diane Keaton's in The Godfather? Time and time again. Is this hair-do worse than what they gave Diane Keaton? So far, the only one that has come close is Javier Bardem's in No Country for Old Men. I have no inside info, but I think the Coens did that so that they could challenge for the lead. If Diane Keaton hadn't been such a great actress that hair-do would have sunk her career.

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If I recall from reading about No Country, the Coen brothers saw an old picture of a guy with that haircut and decided to use it. That may be on IMDB trivia. Great film.
 
2022-08-10 10:00:35 PM  

yakmans_dad: We haven't watched the first Godfather in several years, but whenever the movie comes up in conversation, it's always in connection with some actor's bad hair. Is this worse than Diane Keaton's in The Godfather? Time and time again. Is this hair-do worse than what they gave Diane Keaton? So far, the only one that has come close is Javier Bardem's in No Country for Old Men. I have no inside info, but I think the Coens did that so that they could challenge for the lead. If Diane Keaton hadn't been such a great actress that hair-do would have sunk her career.

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Dude, that's the GOOD hairstyle. This is the one where Michael says "Look at how they massacred my girl"
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2022-08-10 10:38:21 PM  

yakmans_dad: We haven't watched the first Godfather in several years, but whenever the movie comes up in conversation, it's always in connection with some actor's bad hair. Is this worse than Diane Keaton's in The Godfather? Time and time again. Is this hair-do worse than what they gave Diane Keaton? So far, the only one that has come close is Javier Bardem's in No Country for Old Men. I have no inside info, but I think the Coens did that so that they could challenge for the lead. If Diane Keaton hadn't been such a great actress that hair-do would have sunk her career.

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Look at photos from the 40s and 50s. That's a contemporary hairstyle for married women during the time when the movie takes place.
 
2022-08-10 11:42:17 PM  
stoli n coke:  Dude, that's the GOOD hairstyle. This is the one where Michael says "Look at how they massacred my girl"

Yours was the one I was looking for. Thanks.
 
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