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(E! Online)   Biggest takeaways from Jennette McCurdy (Sam from iCarly) memoir include don't ever let your kid onto a Nickelodeon set with "The Creator" as the person in charge   (eonline.com) divider line
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2022-08-10 12:32:09 PM  
'The Creator' being Dan Schneider, which she could not name for legal reasons I imagine.
 
2022-08-10 12:48:21 PM  
It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling
 
2022-08-10 12:49:33 PM  
Dan "Up Inside Her" Schneider.

F*ck that rapist. Sideways with a rake, preferably.
 
2022-08-10 12:51:07 PM  
Sad, though I'm pretty sure don't let your kid be a child actor has been in the good parenting handbook since at least the 70s.
 
2022-08-10 12:51:41 PM  
She actually is a good actor, but she got typecast.  Good that she quit, and her evil mother is dead.
 
2022-08-10 12:56:35 PM  
I guess we'll just never know who that mysterious "Creator" is.

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/JFC reading that article is eye-opening. I'm glad she's in a better place, but that whole story is insane!
 
2022-08-10 1:01:50 PM  
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2022-08-10 1:01:55 PM  
Noah Munck was the breakout actor on that show.
 
2022-08-10 1:02:36 PM  
Tyler wtf
 
2022-08-10 1:05:21 PM  
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2022-08-10 1:07:36 PM  
My children have watched every original iCarly episode and every Sam and Cat episode at least three times.  My oldest was the only one allowed to watch the rebooted iCarly.  She asked why Sam wasn't on, and I said the actress quit acting.  I sent her a story about it over the weekend, and she came in saying, "Oh, that's why."
 
2022-08-10 1:10:12 PM  
Well, that was a depressing read.  I don't think there's anything inherently abusive about kids on TV but like with the clergy and youth pastors, that sort of work tends to attract child abusers.  Of course the whole point of having parents on the set is to prevent abusers or the studios from taking advantage of the kids as was so often the case in the early days of Hollywood.  But what if the parents are also the ones doing the abusing?  Maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing is inherently abusive.
 
2022-08-10 1:14:27 PM  

Persnickety: Well, that was a depressing read.  I don't think there's anything inherently abusive about kids on TV but like with the clergy and youth pastors, that sort of work tends to attract child abusers.  Of course the whole point of having parents on the set is to prevent abusers or the studios from taking advantage of the kids as was so often the case in the early days of Hollywood.  But what if the parents are also the ones doing the abusing?  Maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing is inherently abusive.


Jackie Coogan was a child actor in the 30s, so his salary was given to his mother.  When he was 18, he asked for his money and his mother said she spent it all.  He had no legal recourse and later in life was instrumental in getting "Coogan's Law" passed, which put child actors salaries in trust funds that nobody could touch except for them when they turned 18.
 
2022-08-10 1:14:46 PM  
Jesus Christ. This is sickening.
 
2022-08-10 1:15:23 PM  
My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.
 
2022-08-10 1:19:21 PM  

groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.


In this case, sadly mom was also one of the creepers.
 
2022-08-10 1:19:44 PM  

groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.


Did you read what the mother was doing to her?  Who's there to keep the mom away?
 
2022-08-10 1:22:00 PM  

WhoGAS: groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.

Did you read what the mother was doing to her?  Who's there to keep the mom away?


At this point parents have to be complacent at a minimum. Which is not to take blame from the rapist/assailant, but there is a lot of blame to be shared.
 
2022-08-10 1:24:29 PM  
Individual 1.
 
2022-08-10 1:25:44 PM  

buntz: [Fark user image 273x337]


Its like he was acting in that movie or something.
 
2022-08-10 1:26:15 PM  

Persnickety: Well, that was a depressing read.  I don't think there's anything inherently abusive about kids on TV but like with the clergy and youth pastors, that sort of work tends to attract child abusers.  Of course the whole point of having parents on the set is to prevent abusers or the studios from taking advantage of the kids as was so often the case in the early days of Hollywood.  But what if the parents are also the ones doing the abusing?  Maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing is inherently abusive.


Years ago there was some reality show about parents trying to get their kids famous, my roommate at the time loved it. I saw it and you could tell some kids were into it but some kids just hated every minute of it. The most disturbing part I saw was the parents were put on a Hollywood death tour where they showed how a lot of people that were celebrity kids ended up, a who lot of bad deaths. They got to the Viper Room and showed the spot out front where River Phoenix died and said "If you knew your kid would die out front of a bar from and overdose would you still want them to be famous? Raise your hand." At least 80% of them did, that was pretty farked up, I do wonder if they were playing to the camera though. But either way it was pretty messed up
 
2022-08-10 1:26:37 PM  

dsmith42: buntz: [Fark user image 273x337]

Its like he was acting in that movie or something.


wasn't FFS. But I guess the French girl was a little old for him.
 
2022-08-10 1:27:47 PM  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.

In this case, sadly mom was also one of the creepers.


Yeah it does seem she had no safe place to go it was just vultures and pervs around her that took advantage of a child.
 
2022-08-10 1:31:04 PM  

BaldrDash: Sad, though I'm pretty sure don't let your kid be a child actor has been in the good parenting handbook since at least the 70s.


Since the beginning, natch. Of course, back then you could steal all the kid's money, so even though it was bad parenting, it was good business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan_Law
 
2022-08-10 1:33:20 PM  
Holy crap I'm glad that biatch is dead too what a monster
 
2022-08-10 1:45:37 PM  

Trocadero: BaldrDash: Sad, though I'm pretty sure don't let your kid be a child actor has been in the good parenting handbook since at least the 70s.

Since the beginning, natch. Of course, back then you could steal all the kid's money, so even though it was bad parenting, it was good business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan_Law


Didn't stop Gary Coleman's parents from stealing his money.
 
2022-08-10 1:45:50 PM  

groppet: Persnickety: Well, that was a depressing read.  I don't think there's anything inherently abusive about kids on TV but like with the clergy and youth pastors, that sort of work tends to attract child abusers.  Of course the whole point of having parents on the set is to prevent abusers or the studios from taking advantage of the kids as was so often the case in the early days of Hollywood.  But what if the parents are also the ones doing the abusing?  Maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing is inherently abusive.

Years ago there was some reality show about parents trying to get their kids famous, my roommate at the time loved it. I saw it and you could tell some kids were into it but some kids just hated every minute of it. The most disturbing part I saw was the parents were put on a Hollywood death tour where they showed how a lot of people that were celebrity kids ended up, a who lot of bad deaths. They got to the Viper Room and showed the spot out front where River Phoenix died and said "If you knew your kid would die out front of a bar from and overdose would you still want them to be famous? Raise your hand." At least 80% of them did, that was pretty farked up, I do wonder if they were playing to the camera though. But either way it was pretty messed up


You see kids doing YouTube videos and TikTok videos, and you think to yourself, "What kind of parent would allow that?"  My kids tried behind our backs.  They didn't realize that I've been on the Internet since PointCast was a thing.  I just knew without knowing, and that was taken down immediately.

I also steered them clear of a lot of videos families took of their lives, saying they only showed what they wanted to show, and had better editing software than I was using.  Honestly now, they don't watch a lot of YouTube.
 
2022-08-10 1:48:50 PM  

groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.


Even if everyone on the set is perfect and you have perfect parents it still seems like that kind of situation would be a crazy amount of pressure for a kid. Like I know for my job if I don't show up for a week I might be in trouble but the company and the other workers will be fine. But if you are like Webster or Haley Joel Osment on 6th Sense, and you stop showing up for work there are a crap load of people who are out of a job. Sure there are adults that have jobs like that, but how the hell are kids supposed to deal with that?
 
2022-08-10 1:50:54 PM  

TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling


He's not with Nickelodeon anymore, if that's what you mean. He hasn't been there since 2018 when they probably couldn't ignore this stuff anymore.
 
2022-08-10 1:51:05 PM  

bluorangefyre: I just knew without knowing


I'm pretty sure that makes you a zen master
 
2022-08-10 1:51:19 PM  

TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling


It seems crazy that Harvey Weinstein is in jail and people are even scared to say this guy's name.

Although I did learn a few days ago that one of the other actors from Head of the Class is the freaking CEO of Nickelodeon. Not saying those are connected, but it is interesting.
 
2022-08-10 1:52:48 PM  

BaldrDash: WhoGAS: groppet: My takeaway from this is one more reason you should never let your kid be a professional actor unless you are there on set with them 24/7 and keep the creepers at bay.

Did you read what the mother was doing to her?  Who's there to keep the mom away?

At this point parents have to be complacent at a minimum. Which is not to take blame from the rapist/assailant, but there is a lot of blame to be shared.


The mom fingered her and played with her boobs in the shower as a kid.  For medical reasons, of course.

FTA: "Jennette wrote that she spent five years dreading showers, that at 12 her mom was still showering her. Debra would also give her a "breast and 'front butt' exam," Jennette described, noting that her mom explained she was checking her chest and private parts for cancerous lumps. "I usually just try and think of Disneyland when Mom's doing the exams," she wrote, noting that she felt a "huge wave of relief" when they were over."
 
2022-08-10 1:53:44 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling

He's not with Nickelodeon anymore, if that's what you mean. He hasn't been there since 2018 when they probably couldn't ignore this stuff anymore.


Oops!

Though according to IMDB he has a creator credit for a show that debuted in 2020. But, I'll take your word for it
 
2022-08-10 1:54:53 PM  

TDWCom29: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling

He's not with Nickelodeon anymore, if that's what you mean. He hasn't been there since 2018 when they probably couldn't ignore this stuff anymore.

Oops!

Though according to IMDB he has a creator credit for a show that debuted in 2020. But, I'll take your word for it


Last part isn't sarcasm by the way
 
2022-08-10 2:05:42 PM  
"Mom Debra McCurdy got Jennette and her brother Marcus an audition with child talent agent Barbara Cameron (Kirk and Candace's mom) but Barbara only wanted to sign Marcus, telling Debra that her daughter "lacks charisma," Jennette wrote. As devout Mormons, Debra told Jennette to pray"

Holy cow the red flags in just the first paragraph
 
2022-08-10 2:10:48 PM  

buntz: [Fark user image 273x337]


Sorry your mom blew up, Ricky.
 
2022-08-10 2:14:15 PM  
I guess they hit close to the truth with the running joke on iCarly that Sams mom was a POS
 
2022-08-10 2:14:49 PM  

cloverock70: Trocadero: BaldrDash: Sad, though I'm pretty sure don't let your kid be a child actor has been in the good parenting handbook since at least the 70s.

Since the beginning, natch. Of course, back then you could steal all the kid's money, so even though it was bad parenting, it was good business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan_Law

Didn't stop Gary Coleman's parents from stealing his money.


Didn't the same shiat happen to the youngest brother from Home Improvement?
Goes to show that green is thicker than red.
That's why I'll never tell any of my family or friends how much I make at work (it's not a lot) or if I ever win the lottery.
 
2022-08-10 2:18:02 PM  

Jake Havechek: 'The Creator' being Dan Schneider, which she could not name for legal reasons I imagine.


Sort of.

More of she'd rather just name him that so she didn't have to hear his name.
 
2022-08-10 3:16:03 PM  

Jake Havechek: Persnickety: Well, that was a depressing read.  I don't think there's anything inherently abusive about kids on TV but like with the clergy and youth pastors, that sort of work tends to attract child abusers.  Of course the whole point of having parents on the set is to prevent abusers or the studios from taking advantage of the kids as was so often the case in the early days of Hollywood.  But what if the parents are also the ones doing the abusing?  Maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing is inherently abusive.

Jackie Coogan was a child actor in the 30s, so his salary was given to his mother.  When he was 18, he asked for his money and his mother said she spent it all.  He had no legal recourse and later in life was instrumental in getting "Coogan's Law" passed, which put child actors salaries in trust funds that nobody could touch except for them when they turned 18.


21. Adulthood was 21 back in the 1939's. The Coogan Act was passed in 1939 when he was 25.  It requires 15% of the child's salary be set aside in a trust.

Jeannette's mother also spent all the money she earned as an actor and somehow avoided putting anything into a trust for her.
 
2022-08-10 3:21:01 PM  

Aezetyr: That's why I'll never tell any of my family or friends how much I make at work (it's not a lot) or if I ever win the lottery.


Same. It is an ironclad, lifelong personal rule of mine to never discuss money, salaries, savings etc. with anyone other than my significant other or a financial advisor/tax person.

Dropping those numbers draws a seriously uncomfortable line in the sand.
 
2022-08-10 3:32:55 PM  

Aezetyr: cloverock70: Trocadero: BaldrDash: Sad, though I'm pretty sure don't let your kid be a child actor has been in the good parenting handbook since at least the 70s.

Since the beginning, natch. Of course, back then you could steal all the kid's money, so even though it was bad parenting, it was good business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Coogan_Law

Didn't stop Gary Coleman's parents from stealing his money.

Didn't the same shiat happen to the youngest brother from Home Improvement?
Goes to show that green is thicker than red.
That's why I'll never tell any of my family or friends how much I make at work (it's not a lot) or if I ever win the lottery.


Just FYI: In most states if you hit one of the big jackpots, your name as the winner becomes a public record.  Although this seems horrible, these rules exist to keep the game fair, i.e. what's to stop some sneaky lottery official or the state itself from just declaring someone won when no one did and then taking the money.
 
2022-08-10 3:50:12 PM  

TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling


And Apple TV snapped Lasseter right up.
 
2022-08-10 3:53:51 PM  
"You could have saved her" was a daily thread on a website about McCurdy for a couple of years. I always wondered who it was directed to, probably Dan "she's a fighter, hug her tighter" Schneider and his enablers, and was probably made by people aware she was writing her book.

Take care, Jennette.
 
2022-08-10 4:03:46 PM  
Compared to Britney Spears and Amanda Byes, she came out Victorious.
 
2022-08-10 4:15:13 PM  

Kris_Romm: TDWCom29: It's truly amazing to me this guy still is skating from any sort of career damage. Doesn't even make sense in a "still making the company money" way because John Lasseter got taken out for lesser accusations and he made Disney way more money. Truly baffling

And Apple TV snapped Lasseter right up.


I did see that. I don't think what he did was completely irredeemable (of course I'm also not that familiar with the accusations, tbh), though I do get why he was let go. More just brought him up to show that Schneider still being around is completely unbelievable by comparison.
 
2022-08-10 4:39:06 PM  
 
2022-08-10 4:42:39 PM  
If nothing else, I'm glad to hear that Miranda Cosgrove was actually a friend to her.
 
2022-08-10 4:45:06 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Worth reading:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective


Is this cracked peer reviewed?

/read it, it was good
/still old enough to snicker when I see cracked magazine sources
/Need a MAD source to verify, preferably in spy vs spy format.
 
2022-08-10 4:55:06 PM  
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Keith Coogan, Jackie's grandson, played Kenny in Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead.
 
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