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(ABC 15)   My dearest Matilda, the liberals have made fun of me on the internet again, and I have renewed my calls for civil war. Matilda, how I do miss you. No where in the great Shenandoah Valley is there a prettier waifu. Yours, MisesFreedomEagle6969   (abc15.com) divider line
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2022-08-10 8:47:10 AM  
Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.
 
2022-08-10 8:55:28 AM  

edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.


No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.
 
2022-08-10 9:02:06 AM  
Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.
 
2022-08-10 9:12:11 AM  
Welcome to Republican America, where it is absolutely inconceivable that God Trump could possibly do any wrong, and anything the left does, no matter what it is, is evil and aimed at destroying good, hard-working, Real AmericansTM.  This is what TFG has wrought.  A cult of personality so virulent it literally threatens to destroy the entire country.  He is America's Pol Pot, Pinochet, Kim Jong-(Il | Un), Mao, Hitler, etc.  "Make America Great Again" is just an Americanized "Great Leap Forward."

Yeah, there's some hyperbole here, but only because A) TFG is dumber than ... well, everyone, and B) They haven't had the time or people smart or organized enough to fully execute the Great Coup.  But make no mistake, if TFG runs and wins in '24 and manages a majority in the House and Senate (even with 51 seats in the Senate, because you know he'll axe the filibuster the first chance he gets), some serious shiat will happen that will, if not completely, then at least mostly destroy the country as anyone recognizes it today.
 
2022-08-10 9:16:32 AM  
Y'all can't handle your Internet lagging, and y'all think you can endure shortages at the Piggly-Wiggly and, I dunno, getting shot at? You roll in with guns pointed at Federal workers, they aren't going to greet you as liberators. I seem to recall how unfair it has been when Feds have shot motherf*ckers who aimed a gun in their direction, and now you want to make yourselves open targets?

Talk is cheap, kids. You can be restless and rustle your jimmies, but you aren't ready for civil war, especially not for this sh*tstain.
 
2022-08-10 9:36:55 AM  
So who are they going to shoot at?

The Civil War kicked off with a bunch of drunk hillbillies attacking a military fort. I highly encourage these neo-confederates to try it out.
 
2022-08-10 9:37:52 AM  
Prepare for the coming snack shortage!
 
2022-08-10 9:38:14 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.


Their plan was literally:

1. Insurrection (or some other farked up thing that they have done)
2. ??
3. Profit
 
2022-08-10 9:38:30 AM  
Go ahead and start a civil war. But don't be shocked when the other states don't fight to keep you this time. They might be glad to be rid of those ignorant morons from another century.
 
2022-08-10 9:38:39 AM  

nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.


That.  The FBI cod have found a stash of heroin hidden inside decaying human heads in that vault and they would defend it.

Because it is a cult.
 
2022-08-10 9:39:10 AM  

nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.


Correct.

Gingrich is saying the evidence obtained at MaraLago was planted.
 
2022-08-10 9:39:43 AM  
We beat em before and we can do it again
 
2022-08-10 9:39:46 AM  

Rent Party: nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.

That.  The FBI cod have found a stash of heroin hidden inside decaying human heads in that vault and they would defend it.

Because it is a cult.


It has to be the largest cult ever.  Or in the top five.
 
2022-08-10 9:40:44 AM  
"We will update this story if we do."

fair enough
 
2022-08-10 9:41:42 AM  

strongly worded letter: MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.

Their plan was literally:

1. Insurrection (or some other farked up thing that they have done)
2. ??
3. Profit Christofascist theocratic kleptocratic dictatorship with King Trump for life


Fixed.

They don't know how they'll get there, they'll just keep pushing for it until they'll get it; nor will have any idea of what to do with it once they get it beyond "Kill or Enslave those people of characteristics we do not approve of."
 
2022-08-10 9:41:59 AM  
What happened to rule of law? "Back the blue"?  Or for someone who maybe might have had confidential information in an insecure place, "Lock her up"?  I thought we were all on the same page here?
 
2022-08-10 9:42:37 AM  
Growing? I'm pretty sure it's been at the "filler conversation topic" level for Trumpers for about two years and a bit now. You know, since it became apparent Trump wasn't on track to win, and later when it became clear to everyone else that he didn't, in fact, win.

What they'll say is "civil war," and what we'll get is more nutjobs shooting up malls shortly after publishing their manifestos. It's such surpreme bullshiat that I can "same ol' same ol'" THAT, but it really is.
 
2022-08-10 9:42:49 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?


Blue states should be securing access to food that doesn't involve giving money to people that want to come and kill them. A small version of buying our oil from the Middle East is going on right here in America.
 
2022-08-10 9:42:53 AM  

Psychopusher: Yeah, there's some hyperbole here


No. I think you nailed it.
 
2022-08-10 9:43:01 AM  
I guess that part about making conservatives feel sad/mad is ok.
But I'll settle for justice instead.
 
2022-08-10 9:43:06 AM  
There's that weird part of me that kind of wishes they would. That little sliver inside going "Do it, try farking around, see about the finding out of kicking off your Civil War fantasy you jerk it to each night. This is your moment, go on, start farking around."

And like, that's bad because these idjits will probably kill some one, but at the same time, it would be real, real nice to finally put some of the nuttier ones away for good.
 
2022-08-10 9:43:32 AM  

Rent Party: nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.

That.  The FBI cod have found a stash of heroin hidden inside decaying human heads in that vault and they would defend it.

Because it is a cult.


It WaS pLaNtEd By ThE fBi!
 
2022-08-10 9:43:58 AM  
I was dismissive of all this civil war talk, until I realized that if TikTok had a Civil War Challenge, Americans would immediately start shooting at each other.
 
2022-08-10 9:43:58 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.


They've had fantasies about murdering libs forever, this is just ramping up that rhetoric.  They just want free reign to slaughter anyone who doesn't sufficiently bend the knee.

They think they're the only ones with guns, and they don't realize that all their MAGA shiat just marks them as potential targets, and that a lot of "libs" could go Dark Brandon platoon, blending into the MAGA horde until it's time to strike.

Plus, decades of being told about the "silent majority" makes them think that all the cops and military are on their side, but just unwilling to publicly say so.

So yeah, it's all about projection and their insecurities, and they genuinely don't realize how badly it will go for them if they actually try anything.  They're full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.  At most they'll incite some stochastic terrorism, but that's about it.
 
2022-08-10 9:44:05 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought...


Ok, I'm gonna need to stop you right there...
 
2022-08-10 9:44:16 AM  
How the Civil War will go:

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2022-08-10 9:44:21 AM  

strongly worded letter: Rent Party: nmrsnr: edmo: 

It has to be the largest cult ever.  Or in the top five.



The major world religions have billions of followers each. I think they win.
 
2022-08-10 9:44:31 AM  
Insurance doesn't cover acts of war.

If you go out cosplaying soldier with your tacticool vest and your AR-15, and some lib/antifa/annoyed neighbor molotovs your custom F-450, you're SOL.
 
2022-08-10 9:45:03 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.


Think Rwanda. Now instead of Hutus and Tutsis, substitute Conservatives and Liberals. They view thoughts as anti-America, so there will be murder on a wide-scale. AND since it will be so big, for the most part it will go unpunished, even if cooler heads prevail a long way down the line. There are quite a few sociopaths who would love the opportunity to kill and get away with it. I'e seen more than one "liberal hunting permit" sticker on quite a few pickup trucks. Is it going to happen, I sure as hell hope not. But it could get out of control.

As for the government, they fantasize about a wholesale takeover. They'd need the military to back them, so maybe?

More likely we see an isis-type of operation, where they hold regions, southern states, midwest enclaves. Mass migration to "safe states" interstate refugees. If they get enough, then a dissolution of the union, perhaps a new confederacy.
 
2022-08-10 9:45:36 AM  

Rent Party: nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.

That.  The FBI cod have found a stash of heroin hidden inside decaying human heads in that vault and they would defend it.

Because it is a cult.


Yep. And while I don't see fully-armed troops going head-to-head in a 'civil war' we are probably only a week or two away from some domestic terrorism (lone gunmen, pipe bombs, etc.) aimed at Garland and Democrats.
 
2022-08-10 9:45:41 AM  
I came to this thread looking for the hilarious modern civil wars ala Ken Burns.
I am so disappoint.
 
2022-08-10 9:46:16 AM  
I imagine there are far more people who are just wondering what the raid was all about than those who grabbed their guns. But the former wouldn't get the clickies that sustain ad revenues.
 
2022-08-10 9:46:45 AM  
Maybe you shouldn't raid the homes of opposition political leaders in secret police Gestapo style?
 
2022-08-10 9:47:20 AM  

goodluckwiththat: I came to this thread looking for the hilarious modern civil wars ala Ken Burns.
I am so disappoint.


civil war letters,
darn it
 
2022-08-10 9:47:32 AM  

Wadded Beef: Rent Party: nmrsnr: edmo: Conservatives imagine this is some trivial political hack job because that's how they operate. They really haven't grasped the enormity of it.

No, conservatives live in an alternate reality, and it doesn't matter what is proven, it's all a political hit job. If Trump is indicted they'll compare him to Nevalny.

That.  The FBI cod have found a stash of heroin hidden inside decaying human heads in that vault and they would defend it.

Because it is a cult.

Yep. And while I don't see fully-armed troops going head-to-head in a 'civil war' we are probably only a week or two away from some domestic terrorism (lone gunmen, pipe bombs, etc.) aimed at Garland and Democrats.


I think we will see a week of American Troubles, then some black guy will take a knee somewhere and that will end the coverage, and thus the "war."
 
2022-08-10 9:47:35 AM  
These are the kind of asshats that go play mailbox baseball then being surprised they committed a federal crime.
 
2022-08-10 9:47:52 AM  

hubiestubert: Y'all can't handle your Internet lagging, and y'all think you can endure shortages at the Piggly-Wiggly and, I dunno, getting shot at? You roll in with guns pointed at Federal workers, they aren't going to greet you as liberators. I seem to recall how unfair it has been when Feds have shot motherf*ckers who aimed a gun in their direction, and now you want to make yourselves open targets?

Talk is cheap, kids. You can be restless and rustle your jimmies, but you aren't ready for civil war, especially not for this sh*tstain.


I have two friends that are in Ukraine now living in a war zone and we chat fairly often about what it's like for them to live in a war zone. These are guys who went to college in the states with me, and not on the front lines, in relatively safety and the look of exhaustion and trauma tells me as much as anything they say.

These civil war idiots have never suffered a day in their life, and when they face difficulties they fold like wet newspaper and they are going to take over the country? Maybe they take over a blockchain or some disused Meta VR room but that's not happening in reality.
 
2022-08-10 9:48:00 AM  
Republicans had 16 other candidate choices to choose to nominate other than Trump.  At some point they need to come to terms with their own fark up.
 
2022-08-10 9:48:18 AM  
I really don't think there would be any need for a civil war.  Probably the majority of the people would be just fine if the states split up into multiple different countries.  Oh, you don't want to be part of the United States anymore?  Okay well, bye...  IDGAF.
 
2022-08-10 9:48:36 AM  
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2022-08-10 9:48:46 AM  
What "Democrats are ecstatic" about this? I think most are a little more hopeful that justice/rule of law might still be a thing. "Ecstatic" would happen if TFG and his cult could grow a brain and have cogent, critical thoughts in the reality that the majority of actual people live in.
 
2022-08-10 9:49:23 AM  
They want civil war?

Are they prepared for their cities and neighborhoods to look like this, with

No power/HVAC
No food
No water
No internet or cell service
No television
No gasoline
No anything

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This is the reality, but with dead bodies, flies, vermin and stench all around.

Their idea of civil war is a FANTASY.

To them it's a schoolyard fight.  But civil war means devastation.

So RWNJs....would you rather wear a mask in a store and maybe get good healthcare and clean air for the trouble of living under Dark Brandon, or suffer for the rest of your short lives with THIS kind of dire situation while watching your children, friends, and family all die?

You are not Rambo and this is not a movie.
 
2022-08-10 9:50:09 AM  

goodluckwiththat: I came to this thread looking for the hilarious modern civil wars ala Ken Burns.
I am so disappoint.


Folk Alley Sessions: Jay Ungar & Molly Mason Family Band, "Ashokan Farewell"
Youtube 2kZASM8OX7s
 
2022-08-10 9:50:14 AM  
Remember that on January 6th, when a ton of these dumbfarks thought they were taking part in a revolution, it still only involved shooting one of them for reality to set in for the others. These people will sound like they're ready for a bloodbath until one of them so much as breaks a nail and then they run away in fear. Their civil war will consist of rallies and poo flinging but when it comes to actual violence and consequences they're completely unprepared.
 
2022-08-10 9:51:47 AM  

Russ1642: Remember that on January 6th, when a ton of these dumbfarks thought they were taking part in a revolution, it still only involved shooting one of them for reality to set in for the others. These people will sound like they're ready for a bloodbath until one of them so much as breaks a nail and then they run away in fear. Their civil war will consist of rallies and poo flinging but when it comes to actual violence and consequences they're completely unprepared.


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2022-08-10 9:53:12 AM  

HerptheDerp: There's that weird part of me that kind of wishes they would. That little sliver inside going "Do it, try farking around, see about the finding out of kicking off your Civil War fantasy you jerk it to each night. This is your moment, go on, start farking around."

And like, that's bad because these idjits will probably kill some one, but at the same time, it would be real, real nice to finally put some of the nuttier ones away for good.


It'll last until the first dipshiat Ashley Babbitts themselves on live TV.  Notice how everyone else trying to get into the chambers immediately backed down as soon as they saw immediate, violent consequences?  (OK, sure, they eventually overran the chambers anyway, but only after the secret service and congress had all evacuated and left it empty...)
 
2022-08-10 9:54:03 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.


But honestly this is probably the best time for the Justice Department to enforce the search warrant against Trump. Reason being, the whole movement showed their hand on January 6th, and are in disarray. The leaders of the militias like Oath Keepers and Proud Boys are under federal charges and cooperating to save their skins. The most passionate useful idiots are in various stages of the legal process for their January 6th shenanigans. At full force they were unable to pull it off on January 6th. Now with their ranks in tatters and the feds expecting it, there is no chance of success if they try their civil war 2 B.S. again.

Sadly that is why it will probably be some cowardly attack like with Oklahoma City and Timothy McVeigh.
 
2022-08-10 9:54:13 AM  

MrBallou: Have they thought this "Civil War" thing through at all? Who, exactly, do they mean to attack, and what, exactly, do they expect it to look like if they win?

If they're attacking civilians (Libs, etc.), that's just murder and won't accomplish any change in the government. If they're attacking the military or even the police, they'll lose, badly.

If they win (against whoever they're attacking), is the goal to take over the government by force? Do they mean to oust or even kill the current elected government and install their own people? That would be a military dictatorship. Is that what they're after?

/Bah. I give up. I tried to think this through, but it's just too goddamn stupid to even try.


Yup, and if they "win" do they think NATO would just stand back and go "oh ok then"?
 
2022-08-10 9:56:03 AM  
"The trigger words are then going to incite some type of violence or some type of activity," said Matt Browning, a retired Mesa police detective and expert on extremism. Browning says the talk about 'civil war' is not completely new but "the base is so much bigger than it was."..."The anger is going to continue to rise," said Browning. "What once was unacceptable to say is now going to become acceptable."

Yeah, that assumes there was ever a set of things that were unacceptable to say on Gab and far-right Telegram.  I guess technically there was, but not because people found the content unacceptable, but because even those companies had limits to enable them to continue to use things like their hosting providers.

/Also, that's someone from Mesa "shoot first, ask questions never" Police Department in AZ.  Half his department is probably posting on those boards.
 
2022-08-10 9:56:34 AM  
It's been about a hundred years since the only civil war that matters, the Russian civil war, also known at the Russian Revolution.  How quickly the peoples uprising became a labeled with a brand name ideal, Marxian communism, and then how quickly it became a fascist, authoritarian, brutal oligarchy.

My comrades over at 55 Savushkina Street in old Petrograd don't want you to think about that last part.  The leaders for that have already been decided.  Glavset want you to wallow in the romance of the first part with your stars and bars flags, secret handshakes and code words, mustaches, tattoos, and manly talk about the A2.
 
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